Schliek20 0 #1 March 7, 2002 I am in the process of getting my license. I will be in the position of buying a good rig. My problem is that I am confused at all the differences between them. I lost on rig and main size. I'm 20 years old very athletic 6'0" 200 lbs. I need help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #2 March 7, 2002 Best thing to do...ask your DZ (people at our DZ). People that know your skill level are better to ask. There is also a lot of info here if you look around. Basically in a nut shell canopies are measured in square ft 170 = 170sqft and so on. The smaller the canopy usaully the faster the ride depending on wing loading....and theres a whole other thread to talk about....just look around this sight and tons of your ???will be answered!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #3 March 7, 2002 Get a PD reserve.. A Triathlon main.. And a Jevelyn container.. RSL.. And a Cypress if you can afford it.. You can't go wrong with that combo.You will be 225ish out the door.. Get a Triathlon loaded at 1.0 for your first canopy. And a reserve loaded the same.. RhinoBlue Skies and Smooth Rides!! http://www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #4 March 7, 2002 QuoteGet a PD reserve.. A Triathlon main.. And a Jevelyn container.. RSL.. And a Cypress if you can afford it.. You can't go wrong with that combo.Thats the problem...there are a million combinations one cant go wrong with....and there are a million that one can.......the clieche (sp) around here is fly a few canopies before you by anything and talk to the people you jump with. jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #5 March 7, 2002 I told him to jump what I would put my son on.. There are reasons for the selections.. But you are right. Allot of good combinations.. I believe the Triathlon is absolutely the BEST first canopy for anyone.. My son will have one when he starts jumping. It is great in wind, turbulence, chop, and it's easy to pack..Blue Skies and Smooth Rides!! http://www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #6 March 7, 2002 QuoteGet a PD reserve.. A Triathlon main.. And a Jevelyn container.. RSL.. And a Cypress if you can afford it.. You can't go wrong with that combo.You would recomend spending the extra money that a Javelin costs over buying a Cypres? You might want to rethink your priorities, I think. Given short cash, don't you think any of the other perfectly good containers WITH a cypres would be better?There's a certain individual here (who drives a brand spankin new yuppie car) who told me he can't afford a cypres. Isn't that something!_AmICQ: 5578907MSN Messenger: andrewdmetcalfe at hotmail dot com Yahoo IM: ametcalf_1999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 March 7, 2002 Good points Andy. Is it better to have all new good looking gear, or to have mismatched gear and be able to jump twice as much? Currency is the name of the game here folks. Going uncurrent can injure you quicker then you ever thought. Doing 100 jumps a year is low timing it at my DZ. I only did 225 last summer and was accused of not jumping enough. Spend the money on the jumps, not fancy gear. Get something thats safe, but screw buying new, get used.Personally... Tris good, Spectre better, Saber good, Sabre2 better (I can't wait for my demo You can't go wrong with a Sabre. They are cheap to find, last forever, and everyone has jumped on at some point. Most people go to 9 cells so start off that way.I started on a Spectre and it was better in every way over a Tri. I went 7 to 9 cell and it was a change.Dolphins are cheap and black... nothing wrong with that... Javelins are pricey, and so are 50% of the other rigs.Everyone wants to tell you thier gear combo is/was the best as justification to themselfs for getting it. Its going to be rare that you hear someone say "I just spent $5000 on a new custom rig, and I hate everything about it, but I got to recommend it to you."Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #8 March 7, 2002 Well, I'm no expert But first thing is to keep it slow. You don't have to buy your own gear right off student status. Learn about the gear, get advice from the people at your dropzone and then go to the gear forum here and ask questions.For example people here are recommending Triathalons. Go to the gear review section and read up the reviews on that canopy. Go to the manufacturer's website and download the manuals for that canopy.Just narrow down your choices, then ask more specific advice on whatever gear you happen to like. All the gear is "good" gear. No one is producing crappy containers or canopies. It mostly comes down to preference and price. Once you start looking over the options you'll naturally get a feel for it. Then when some newbie asks you what canopy he should jump you'll tell him to buy a Triathalon because you owned one.Btw, buy a Triathalon. They're a great canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lazerq3 0 #9 March 7, 2002 QuoteWell, I'm no expertBAWAAWAWHHAAHAHA!!!! Good one!!!!!!Your quick...gotta respect that !!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crazymel 0 #10 March 7, 2002 I don't know ANYTHING - just graduated from AFF, but here's what my JM advised me....I am 5'6 and weigh app 115lbs. Just ordered my first (beer!!!) rig...Specter2 170 with a PD 160 Reserve with a Mirage container and CYPRESS!!!!! Will never go without the cypress. Although, my first BOC Throw-out jump was with a friend's rig without a Cypress, go figure.... Cannot wait for my gear and hoping to do a lot of jumps before it arrives in May to be ready for the 170 (starting to downsize canopy slowly...jumping a 190 for the first (beer!!) time this weekend.) Life is for the Living!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymedic 0 #11 March 7, 2002 What, your not gonna tell him to buy one of those "fail safe" rigs you keep spouting off about???marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #12 March 7, 2002 Look, here's the deal. Just about every container manufactured in the past 5 years is pretty damn good. Yes, the all have their pluses and faults, some more so then others. (personally, I like Wings, but that's neither here nor there). For a reserve, you can't go wrong with a PD, although they are expensive, in my opinion, they are worth it. As for a main. Get just about any (just about any, there are some I would and wouldn't use, but those are, once again, my opinions) non-elliptical ZP loaded at 1.1:1 or so. If it was me, I would get a Hornet, a Sabre or a Triathalon, but that's just me. Cypress? Yeah, get one, they're great. Note, though, I can't afford one, so I don't jump with one. I trust myself to pull something for myself, the falacy in that is the chance that I might get knocked out in freefall, in that case, I'm screwed and I become a divot.When you get down to it, the bottom line is go ask your JM, the DZO where you jump, etc. Ask people who know you, then double check what they say with someone you can trust, like Bill Von, RiggerRob, Skybytch, etc. (although skybytch will tell you you need a 300sq ft PD for your main j/k much love Lisa...).When you ask 4 skydivers a question, you will generally get 6 answers in which they believe whole heartedly and will argue very very fervantly in the "fact" that it is the truth. "Give me one ping and one ping only..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #13 March 7, 2002 First off, welcome! Take a look at the Gear section of this website (click on the Gear link at the top of the page). There you'll find a number of articles that address the very problem you're having, and there are also a bunch of gear reviews that will confuse... err I mean help you decide which container, main, reserve, helmet, etc might be right for you.Talk to your instructors about gear. They have the advantage of having seen you fly and land and can usually give you good advice about canopy sizing. Call or email one or two of the "major" gear dealers and ask what they would recommend - most have active, experienced skydivers answering the phones/emails and they can usually give you good advice about getting gear to fit your budget, risk tolerance, location, weight and experience level.Take what anybody says about gear with a grain of salt (or two). The gear I jump is what I decided is best for me; while it's the perfect rig for me and parts of it might be perfect for you, just because it is perfect for me does not mean that it is perfect for anyone else (did that make any sense at all??).The best way to decide what gear is right for you is to jump several different containers and mains; that way you can decide what you like best. pull and flare,lisa---Mondays suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #14 March 7, 2002 He can get a Dolphin for all I care,, I was just saying Javelyn.. I would have recommended a Racer but an RSL is not a good thing with a racer.. I jump a racer.. I have been jumping for 4 years now and JUST got a brand new Cypress put in my rig. About damned time...Go ahead and flame me.. It's o.k. I have read one too many incident reports about fatalities that might have been prevented with a cypress. Well now I have one!! Yeppie!! RhinoBlue Skies and Smooth Rides!! http://www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #15 March 7, 2002 QuoteHe can get a Dolphin for all I careHey!!!!!QuoteI have read one too many incident reports about fatalities that might have been prevented with a cypressDamn dude....I can't take all this abuse!!!! "I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymedic 0 #16 March 8, 2002 I dont jump a CyPReS...does that make me a bad person.....marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites canopycudler 0 #17 March 8, 2002 LMAO!! Damn Clay.. no defense on the rig? hehehe.. Busses here don't work. I am an asshole. ...Tina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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lazerq3 0 #9 March 7, 2002 QuoteWell, I'm no expertBAWAAWAWHHAAHAHA!!!! Good one!!!!!!Your quick...gotta respect that !!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazymel 0 #10 March 7, 2002 I don't know ANYTHING - just graduated from AFF, but here's what my JM advised me....I am 5'6 and weigh app 115lbs. Just ordered my first (beer!!!) rig...Specter2 170 with a PD 160 Reserve with a Mirage container and CYPRESS!!!!! Will never go without the cypress. Although, my first BOC Throw-out jump was with a friend's rig without a Cypress, go figure.... Cannot wait for my gear and hoping to do a lot of jumps before it arrives in May to be ready for the 170 (starting to downsize canopy slowly...jumping a 190 for the first (beer!!) time this weekend.) Life is for the Living!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #11 March 7, 2002 What, your not gonna tell him to buy one of those "fail safe" rigs you keep spouting off about???marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 March 7, 2002 Look, here's the deal. Just about every container manufactured in the past 5 years is pretty damn good. Yes, the all have their pluses and faults, some more so then others. (personally, I like Wings, but that's neither here nor there). For a reserve, you can't go wrong with a PD, although they are expensive, in my opinion, they are worth it. As for a main. Get just about any (just about any, there are some I would and wouldn't use, but those are, once again, my opinions) non-elliptical ZP loaded at 1.1:1 or so. If it was me, I would get a Hornet, a Sabre or a Triathalon, but that's just me. Cypress? Yeah, get one, they're great. Note, though, I can't afford one, so I don't jump with one. I trust myself to pull something for myself, the falacy in that is the chance that I might get knocked out in freefall, in that case, I'm screwed and I become a divot.When you get down to it, the bottom line is go ask your JM, the DZO where you jump, etc. Ask people who know you, then double check what they say with someone you can trust, like Bill Von, RiggerRob, Skybytch, etc. (although skybytch will tell you you need a 300sq ft PD for your main j/k much love Lisa...).When you ask 4 skydivers a question, you will generally get 6 answers in which they believe whole heartedly and will argue very very fervantly in the "fact" that it is the truth. "Give me one ping and one ping only..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #13 March 7, 2002 First off, welcome! Take a look at the Gear section of this website (click on the Gear link at the top of the page). There you'll find a number of articles that address the very problem you're having, and there are also a bunch of gear reviews that will confuse... err I mean help you decide which container, main, reserve, helmet, etc might be right for you.Talk to your instructors about gear. They have the advantage of having seen you fly and land and can usually give you good advice about canopy sizing. Call or email one or two of the "major" gear dealers and ask what they would recommend - most have active, experienced skydivers answering the phones/emails and they can usually give you good advice about getting gear to fit your budget, risk tolerance, location, weight and experience level.Take what anybody says about gear with a grain of salt (or two). The gear I jump is what I decided is best for me; while it's the perfect rig for me and parts of it might be perfect for you, just because it is perfect for me does not mean that it is perfect for anyone else (did that make any sense at all??).The best way to decide what gear is right for you is to jump several different containers and mains; that way you can decide what you like best. pull and flare,lisa---Mondays suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #14 March 7, 2002 He can get a Dolphin for all I care,, I was just saying Javelyn.. I would have recommended a Racer but an RSL is not a good thing with a racer.. I jump a racer.. I have been jumping for 4 years now and JUST got a brand new Cypress put in my rig. About damned time...Go ahead and flame me.. It's o.k. I have read one too many incident reports about fatalities that might have been prevented with a cypress. Well now I have one!! Yeppie!! RhinoBlue Skies and Smooth Rides!! http://www.aahit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #15 March 7, 2002 QuoteHe can get a Dolphin for all I careHey!!!!!QuoteI have read one too many incident reports about fatalities that might have been prevented with a cypressDamn dude....I can't take all this abuse!!!! "I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #16 March 8, 2002 I dont jump a CyPReS...does that make me a bad person.....marcBSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canopycudler 0 #17 March 8, 2002 LMAO!! Damn Clay.. no defense on the rig? hehehe.. Busses here don't work. I am an asshole. ...Tina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
