PLFXpert 0 #1 March 20, 2002 I just read the Orlando Sentinel article about Skydive Deland. Leave us alone! Crazy pilots? Permanent camp residents? I've been jumping in Deland every weekend for a year now and this is all news to me. It seems to me the city was just looking for someone to pick on. They see the success of a great DZ and think they're entitled to something. Of course I'm biased. It took me a month to get used to the size of the DZ and the skydiving resume's of the skydivers who jump there. However, I love the fact that on any given weekend I can meet skydivers from more than 20 different countries. I can make skydiving friends from all over the world. I know the planes are well-maintenanced and the pilots are experienced with flying skydivers. I know there are many wonderful DZs out there and I've jumped at several of them. I don't see why Skydive Deland has to be under scrutiny for any of its practices. I think Bob has set up a great DZ and has run it well.Leave us alone. That's my two sense.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #2 March 20, 2002 Here I read the title 'Geese' and figured you folk had a flock of Canada Geese start chasing you around the sky under canopy or something - 'The Geese Strike Back'.You meant 'Geez' huh? When you (and I and everyone else here) is the minority, you will be singled out and picked on. The attention is probably because of a single jumper at some point in time got some locals g/f drunk and took her for a 'spin' in his camper and taught her what Ground Rish really is (or is that Head Rush)? The best thing Deland could do is 'open the doors' and make it clear that these are the accusations, this is our response, if you doubt us and want to see for yourself - come on out, we have nothing to hide - we might even convince ya to jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyhawk 2 #3 March 20, 2002 give them a call and tell them you are more than happy to do a free interview from a skydivers point of viewOpinions are like a-holes everyone has one, the only one that does you any good is yours and all that comes out is shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #4 March 20, 2002 Yea, I meant "Geez." OopsIt'll all pass over, I'm sure. It just makes me sad b/c I know Bob works hard to keep the planes maintenanced, the pilots in check, the campgrounds and facilities nice and most importantly, the skydivers happy. I'm sure many DZ owners do the same and I know anyone from any of those DZs would be pretty pissed if someone was trying to step on that.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #5 March 20, 2002 Hey, it's my fellow freeflin' chicka! I can't tell you how many people have asked me about the article in the paper. The complaints about the rv park just make me laugh. For one thing, the park is at the end of a dirt road near the landing area and runway, and the whole dz is located in an industrial park. How many residents actually go anywhere near the rv park to see it? The only reason they would ever see it is if they were at the airport.The people complaining need to think about how much money Skydive Deland brings to the area, and how many businesses the skydivers support. Except for Stetson University, I can't think of much else that would bring money into that little town. And without the dz, they wouldn't have all the skydiving businesses like PD, Relative Workshop, Jumpshack, and Mirage employing the good people of Deland.AndreaThe brave may not live forever, but the timid may not live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #6 March 20, 2002 Exactly, Andrea. Not only those factories, but Bob, himself, employs so many skydivers and lets everyone keep a DZ account to act like a checking account which they can deposit their earnings into and withdraw cash if they want to. There are so many skydivers employed by Skydive Deland, just doing odd jobs so they have something to live off of and $$$ to jump. The article stated the "unsightliness" of the RV park. It is surrounded by trees. No-one who isn't at the end of the dirt road at the DZ would ever see it and as far as "unsightly" goes, that is a matter of opinion. The area is very clean. It is not trashed or un-taken care of. Some of the campers/buses are a bit old an ratty but to the people who live in them, they're just fine. How many regualar RV parks turn away business b/c of the "unsightliness" of the trailer? I would imagine, not many.See you Sunday, Andrea. Norm took some great shots and footage this weekend so if we get copies sometime this week, I will bring them on Sunday for you to see. Either way, I'll bring the pictures we already have. Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #7 March 20, 2002 I gotta chime in here.Bob is one of the coolest mo'fo's I have ever met. The guy owns one of the busiest and most successful DZs in the world, yet he genuinely cares about every jumper who comes to Deland and will make time for anyone who wants to talk to him. I went down there for the Search last month. While we were there, he offered up his pool for water training, brought in Mad Dog to teach and even fed us while we were there. To me, that was downright awesome.I hope all this complaining crap just goes away. Without Bob, that airport wouldn't be half of what it is today. Skydive Deland has brought in a lot of businesses, jobs and money to the local community, as well as at least doubling the airtraffic numbers. Those numbers draw in new businesses as well as federal funding.Yeah, there are some shitty looking RVs nestled in the trees, but drive around the other businesses on the airport. Some of those buildings have junkyards out back. Is anyone talking about those places cleaning up? My solution: get a bunch of jumpers to spend a rainy day washing all the crud off the old RVs. Then tell the critics to fuck off.mikeThe Lord giveth and the M-79 taketh away. Welcome to the world of zero slack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #8 March 20, 2002 WELL SAID!Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,107 #9 March 20, 2002 FYI, article is available online at http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-lkldive19031902mar19.story-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverdriver 7 #10 March 20, 2002 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-lkldive19031902mar19.story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weid14 0 #11 March 20, 2002 I think there are 1 or two weekend warriors making noise.... It'll blow over, Bob's got like a 99 year lease on the place or something like that. I had to laugh at him sitting up on teh sundeck Saturday taking it all in. (that and the 60 some odd loads that were flown....) Hey Carrie... I'm so gland Andrea introduced us.... (she didn't -- I will have to yell at her next time I talk to her). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheMarshMan1 0 #12 March 20, 2002 Yeah, Bob is a waaay cool guy and goes out of his way to make the DZ the same. I LOVE that place, and will always consider it my "home" DZ, no matter where I live. Bob never forgets a name...want proof? He remembers me everytime I'm there...lol, lowly little me, of all the professional skydivers, and more experienced jumpers, and he puts the correct name with my face. I have a hard time believing that these "weekend warrior" assholes will get anything to stick....Skydive Deland ROCKS!!!!"If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #13 March 20, 2002 Weid14....yea, she told me LONG AFTER she jumped you that you were from DZ.com. Ha ha ha. I was trying to set her up all day and kept pointing out the hotties and told her later she she should try to get up on that (try? hardly, Andrea's a knock-out.) .It was nice not meeting you, tooAs for Bob, what everyone has been saying is true. He helped me find a brand new Javelin NJ for $750 and BZ got a brand new Velocity for $1,000 through Bob. Believe what you hear, he is one in a million. He definitely doesn't deserve that kind of publicity. But Weid14, you're right, it was pretty funny seeing him chillin' out on Saturday as 60+ loads went up in the air. By the time my feet hit the ground, I was on a 20 minute call for my next load. SWEET! I had spent my wad of jump $$$ before noon! It worked out nice, though, b/c I had to head back to the pond-swooping anyways. Speaking of which, Andrea, I'm glad you decided to follow me out there.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefalle 0 #14 March 20, 2002 I have to agree with PLF, Ive grown up in Deland and spent alot of time at the DZ. I like everyone else enjoy jumping there. I firmly believe alot of the flack that is going on is the result of someones political connections in the city of Deland. I think its crap. The RV park is so far away from the hangers and the main portion of the airport, unless you go to the park you cant see it. But you know, every city has its "special intrest" issues Delands got the DZ the city of Sebastian is giving the DZ there a rash of shit, Daytona Beach is pissed off about the strip clubs no matter where you go its something. people just need to back off. Yea, I agree, piolts need to follow the safety rules. If there not, they should hold them accountable for their actions but they shouldnt give everybody a rash of shit because they are pissed off at the piolt. I think its an issue of the "big picture"but what do I know.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #15 March 20, 2002 The pilots there DO fly safely. That's why I don't understand all the nonsense. The city should worry more about re-paving I-92. Everyone who has driven to Skydive Deland from I-95 knows what I'm talking about. It's like you're on a bridge w/ potholes, only, it's supposed to be a highway. Ha ha ha Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #16 March 21, 2002 i read that article(here i think) ive only been to deland once! and i can not wiat to go back. that has got to be "THE" callsiest joint Ive ever been to! and ppl were ALL great(except me! I was an assholeseriously, since the minute i got in town i felt welcomed and befriended(thanks to andrea, and crew) then we got to the dz! i left part of my soul there! and i want it backcarrie, dont i know you from somewhere?! pond swooping huh?! damn i am so far behind!(or is that, so far im a behind?)getting high is fun, but coming down is the best partJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #17 March 21, 2002 Quote Hey Carrie... I'm so gland Andrea introduced us.... (she didn't -- I will have to yell at her next time I talk to her).Dave, you DID meet Carrie..kinda. She walked by when I jumped up on you, outside of the restaurant. I think you were trying to do some silly thing like go get your rig and compete, instead of flirting with me. Besides, I don't wanna share anyway!AndreaThe brave may not live forever, but the timid may not live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jceman 1 #18 March 21, 2002 Dave,If you didn't meet Carrie, that is most assuredly your loss.Carrie, why don't you have a pic in your profile -- it'd help everyone take their minds of those gals in Texas (no offense, gals, ya'll look fine. But Carrie is here!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #19 March 21, 2002 JACK! Hey you! I've missed you. I don't have a pic in my profile b/c I don't really have one to put there. I don't have any pics of just me or of me looking normal.....he he he...usually I have my tongue out or I'm making a silly face. Just ask Kellie-Belly....no matter how many rolls of film that girl takes at our parties/events...she still doesn't have one of me w/out my tongue out. Ha ha ha. The only pics I have of just me are from a couple years ago when I did some swimwear advertisements......they don't look anything like me.ANDREA~~I figured you wanted the only hands on Weid's ass to be yours. (For those who don't know, I LOVE those wonderful things most of you sit on and I never hesitate to grab them, whether we know each other or not.)JOE~~I wasn't swooping the pond, I was just landingGeez, I love you guys!Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lazerq3 0 #20 March 21, 2002 QuoteThe only pics I have of just me are from a couple years ago when I did some swimwear advertisements......they don't look anything like meLet us be the judge of that!! ...jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #21 March 21, 2002 ha ha ha....no seriously. I have stick-straight hair and they curled it. I'm tan but not THAT tan. I'm blonde so naturally, you can't see my eyebrows but suddenly, with a little make-up, they put eyebrows on me. Ha ha ha. You men should NEVER believe what you see in magazines.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #22 March 21, 2002 i have the same prob with my pics here, care! even if im at a funeral id be geeking the camera!getting high is fun, but coming down is the best partJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #23 March 21, 2002 Ha ha ha.....I've noticed that, Joe, in the pics you've sent me from there.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #24 March 21, 2002 So when are we gonna see those swimsuit pics?RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #25 March 21, 2002 well remster, if you really want me to ...i'll send you some swimsuit picturegetting high is fun, but coming down is the best partJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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skyhawk 2 #3 March 20, 2002 give them a call and tell them you are more than happy to do a free interview from a skydivers point of viewOpinions are like a-holes everyone has one, the only one that does you any good is yours and all that comes out is shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #4 March 20, 2002 Yea, I meant "Geez." OopsIt'll all pass over, I'm sure. It just makes me sad b/c I know Bob works hard to keep the planes maintenanced, the pilots in check, the campgrounds and facilities nice and most importantly, the skydivers happy. I'm sure many DZ owners do the same and I know anyone from any of those DZs would be pretty pissed if someone was trying to step on that.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 March 20, 2002 Hey, it's my fellow freeflin' chicka! I can't tell you how many people have asked me about the article in the paper. The complaints about the rv park just make me laugh. For one thing, the park is at the end of a dirt road near the landing area and runway, and the whole dz is located in an industrial park. How many residents actually go anywhere near the rv park to see it? The only reason they would ever see it is if they were at the airport.The people complaining need to think about how much money Skydive Deland brings to the area, and how many businesses the skydivers support. Except for Stetson University, I can't think of much else that would bring money into that little town. And without the dz, they wouldn't have all the skydiving businesses like PD, Relative Workshop, Jumpshack, and Mirage employing the good people of Deland.AndreaThe brave may not live forever, but the timid may not live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #6 March 20, 2002 Exactly, Andrea. Not only those factories, but Bob, himself, employs so many skydivers and lets everyone keep a DZ account to act like a checking account which they can deposit their earnings into and withdraw cash if they want to. There are so many skydivers employed by Skydive Deland, just doing odd jobs so they have something to live off of and $$$ to jump. The article stated the "unsightliness" of the RV park. It is surrounded by trees. No-one who isn't at the end of the dirt road at the DZ would ever see it and as far as "unsightly" goes, that is a matter of opinion. The area is very clean. It is not trashed or un-taken care of. Some of the campers/buses are a bit old an ratty but to the people who live in them, they're just fine. How many regualar RV parks turn away business b/c of the "unsightliness" of the trailer? I would imagine, not many.See you Sunday, Andrea. Norm took some great shots and footage this weekend so if we get copies sometime this week, I will bring them on Sunday for you to see. Either way, I'll bring the pictures we already have. Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #7 March 20, 2002 I gotta chime in here.Bob is one of the coolest mo'fo's I have ever met. The guy owns one of the busiest and most successful DZs in the world, yet he genuinely cares about every jumper who comes to Deland and will make time for anyone who wants to talk to him. I went down there for the Search last month. While we were there, he offered up his pool for water training, brought in Mad Dog to teach and even fed us while we were there. To me, that was downright awesome.I hope all this complaining crap just goes away. Without Bob, that airport wouldn't be half of what it is today. Skydive Deland has brought in a lot of businesses, jobs and money to the local community, as well as at least doubling the airtraffic numbers. Those numbers draw in new businesses as well as federal funding.Yeah, there are some shitty looking RVs nestled in the trees, but drive around the other businesses on the airport. Some of those buildings have junkyards out back. Is anyone talking about those places cleaning up? My solution: get a bunch of jumpers to spend a rainy day washing all the crud off the old RVs. Then tell the critics to fuck off.mikeThe Lord giveth and the M-79 taketh away. Welcome to the world of zero slack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #8 March 20, 2002 WELL SAID!Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #9 March 20, 2002 FYI, article is available online at http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-lkldive19031902mar19.story-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #10 March 20, 2002 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-lkldive19031902mar19.story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #11 March 20, 2002 I think there are 1 or two weekend warriors making noise.... It'll blow over, Bob's got like a 99 year lease on the place or something like that. I had to laugh at him sitting up on teh sundeck Saturday taking it all in. (that and the 60 some odd loads that were flown....) Hey Carrie... I'm so gland Andrea introduced us.... (she didn't -- I will have to yell at her next time I talk to her). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #12 March 20, 2002 Yeah, Bob is a waaay cool guy and goes out of his way to make the DZ the same. I LOVE that place, and will always consider it my "home" DZ, no matter where I live. Bob never forgets a name...want proof? He remembers me everytime I'm there...lol, lowly little me, of all the professional skydivers, and more experienced jumpers, and he puts the correct name with my face. I have a hard time believing that these "weekend warrior" assholes will get anything to stick....Skydive Deland ROCKS!!!!"If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #13 March 20, 2002 Weid14....yea, she told me LONG AFTER she jumped you that you were from DZ.com. Ha ha ha. I was trying to set her up all day and kept pointing out the hotties and told her later she she should try to get up on that (try? hardly, Andrea's a knock-out.) .It was nice not meeting you, tooAs for Bob, what everyone has been saying is true. He helped me find a brand new Javelin NJ for $750 and BZ got a brand new Velocity for $1,000 through Bob. Believe what you hear, he is one in a million. He definitely doesn't deserve that kind of publicity. But Weid14, you're right, it was pretty funny seeing him chillin' out on Saturday as 60+ loads went up in the air. By the time my feet hit the ground, I was on a 20 minute call for my next load. SWEET! I had spent my wad of jump $$$ before noon! It worked out nice, though, b/c I had to head back to the pond-swooping anyways. Speaking of which, Andrea, I'm glad you decided to follow me out there.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #14 March 20, 2002 I have to agree with PLF, Ive grown up in Deland and spent alot of time at the DZ. I like everyone else enjoy jumping there. I firmly believe alot of the flack that is going on is the result of someones political connections in the city of Deland. I think its crap. The RV park is so far away from the hangers and the main portion of the airport, unless you go to the park you cant see it. But you know, every city has its "special intrest" issues Delands got the DZ the city of Sebastian is giving the DZ there a rash of shit, Daytona Beach is pissed off about the strip clubs no matter where you go its something. people just need to back off. Yea, I agree, piolts need to follow the safety rules. If there not, they should hold them accountable for their actions but they shouldnt give everybody a rash of shit because they are pissed off at the piolt. I think its an issue of the "big picture"but what do I know.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #15 March 20, 2002 The pilots there DO fly safely. That's why I don't understand all the nonsense. The city should worry more about re-paving I-92. Everyone who has driven to Skydive Deland from I-95 knows what I'm talking about. It's like you're on a bridge w/ potholes, only, it's supposed to be a highway. Ha ha ha Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #16 March 21, 2002 i read that article(here i think) ive only been to deland once! and i can not wiat to go back. that has got to be "THE" callsiest joint Ive ever been to! and ppl were ALL great(except me! I was an assholeseriously, since the minute i got in town i felt welcomed and befriended(thanks to andrea, and crew) then we got to the dz! i left part of my soul there! and i want it backcarrie, dont i know you from somewhere?! pond swooping huh?! damn i am so far behind!(or is that, so far im a behind?)getting high is fun, but coming down is the best partJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #17 March 21, 2002 Quote Hey Carrie... I'm so gland Andrea introduced us.... (she didn't -- I will have to yell at her next time I talk to her).Dave, you DID meet Carrie..kinda. She walked by when I jumped up on you, outside of the restaurant. I think you were trying to do some silly thing like go get your rig and compete, instead of flirting with me. Besides, I don't wanna share anyway!AndreaThe brave may not live forever, but the timid may not live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #18 March 21, 2002 Dave,If you didn't meet Carrie, that is most assuredly your loss.Carrie, why don't you have a pic in your profile -- it'd help everyone take their minds of those gals in Texas (no offense, gals, ya'll look fine. But Carrie is here!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #19 March 21, 2002 JACK! Hey you! I've missed you. I don't have a pic in my profile b/c I don't really have one to put there. I don't have any pics of just me or of me looking normal.....he he he...usually I have my tongue out or I'm making a silly face. Just ask Kellie-Belly....no matter how many rolls of film that girl takes at our parties/events...she still doesn't have one of me w/out my tongue out. Ha ha ha. The only pics I have of just me are from a couple years ago when I did some swimwear advertisements......they don't look anything like me.ANDREA~~I figured you wanted the only hands on Weid's ass to be yours. (For those who don't know, I LOVE those wonderful things most of you sit on and I never hesitate to grab them, whether we know each other or not.)JOE~~I wasn't swooping the pond, I was just landingGeez, I love you guys!Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #20 March 21, 2002 QuoteThe only pics I have of just me are from a couple years ago when I did some swimwear advertisements......they don't look anything like meLet us be the judge of that!! ...jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #21 March 21, 2002 ha ha ha....no seriously. I have stick-straight hair and they curled it. I'm tan but not THAT tan. I'm blonde so naturally, you can't see my eyebrows but suddenly, with a little make-up, they put eyebrows on me. Ha ha ha. You men should NEVER believe what you see in magazines.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #22 March 21, 2002 i have the same prob with my pics here, care! even if im at a funeral id be geeking the camera!getting high is fun, but coming down is the best partJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #23 March 21, 2002 Ha ha ha.....I've noticed that, Joe, in the pics you've sent me from there.Much love and blue skies,Carrie http://www.geocities.com/skydivegrl20/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #24 March 21, 2002 So when are we gonna see those swimsuit pics?RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #25 March 21, 2002 well remster, if you really want me to ...i'll send you some swimsuit picturegetting high is fun, but coming down is the best partJT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
