ChromeBoy 0 #26 April 2, 2002 Put Clay's head on the guy Dave! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #27 April 2, 2002 <--------------Like this? "Homer Simpson, smiling politely." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #28 April 2, 2002 LMAO! Yeah, like that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #29 April 2, 2002 Dude Clay is the Shiznat freeflier!! No goggles though.......SEBAZZ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #30 April 2, 2002 OMG...I'm wondering who took the sheep on AFF???baby's hungry and the money's all gone. the folks back home don't want to talk on the phone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slowfaller 0 #31 April 3, 2002 It was that little brown troll guy that opened his main pin flap! You bastard!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #32 April 3, 2002 Hmmm maybe he should be called fleeceflier29. ..Billions of people living out their lives..Oblivious.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #33 April 3, 2002 Quoten open container is an open container and a falp is either secured or not. It is the job of the flap to protect the pin and the bridle but the container is not open. Not life ending. Geez.........QuoteThanks Seb, You hold him while I go get the SIM and hit him with it.Just got home from work so I couldnt defend myself from flying SIM's. Guys, it was half a joke, and apparently not a very good one, lol. I understand that its not technically an open container, but its more than I care to have open. "If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #34 April 3, 2002 Again, this really isn't that major of a deal, and I'm positive it happens to all containers. BUT once the phorographer submits a photo, it is no longer their property (there are some exceptions to this rule) so the publisher, in this case USPA, can change it any way they see fit. By changing the picture a little they are not doing anyone harm, BUT by leaving it as is, they are contributing to "bad press". That's all, enough said.-Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #35 April 3, 2002 OMG... an opened flap..... if it was England, that rig would be grounded RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #36 April 3, 2002 Quoteif it was England, that rig would be grounded And the jumper would be beaten! "Homer Simpson, smiling politely." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #37 April 3, 2002 Uh, which one is Clay again..... "Don't die until you're dead" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #38 April 3, 2002 QuoteBUT once the phorographer submits a photo, it is no longer their property (there are some exceptions to this rule) so the publisher, in this case USPA, can change it any way they see fit. By changing the picture a little they are not doing anyone harm, BUT by leaving it as is, they are contributing to "bad press". That would be dishonest as hell for the USPA to retouch photos. That changes it into a photo illustration. I won't get very into it, but there have been HUGE flaps (heh) over undisclosed digital manipulation of photos. *pulling out media ethics book* Here's a case right here of a big ole mess when someone photoshopped a diet coke can out of a picture in order to make it asthetically pleasing.Anyway, the thought of queering a photo, even for a USPA calandar, without disclosing it, gives me the willies. The door is openWe are way the fuck up hereMight as well get out.~ FallingMarc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #39 April 3, 2002 Quote BUT once the phorographer submits a photo, it is no longer their property (there are some exceptions to this rule) so the publisher, in this case USPA, can change it any way they see fit. By changing the picture a little they are not doing anyone harm, BUT by leaving it as is, they are contributing to "bad press". Unless Nancy and Kevin are doing things 180 degrees from the rest of the industry, they are buying first time rights. The Photographer always retains ownership of the photograph. ex. If I am a staff photographer for the Washington Post and use their cameras and their film to take some great shot that wins a pulitzer, I own that image along with the rest of the roll and every other image I shoot while I work for them. This was a Supreme Court ruling.QuoteI won't get very into it, but there have been HUGE flaps (heh) over undisclosed digital manipulation of photos. *pulling out media ethics book* Here's a case right here of a big ole mess when someone photoshopped a diet coke can out of a picture in order to make it asthetically pleasing.Jessica, this is very true in the news media, but magazines and calendars are totally different animals. I was in J school when Photoshop 1.X was out and somebody at the base paper shopped out a cigarette from the hand of a soldier returning from Desert Storm. The photoshopper was disciplined, and his boss, the officer who thought getting rid of the smoke was a great idea was shitcanned.Magazines, on the other hand, really have nothing to do with news and are primarily seen as entertainment. They are published monthly, usually on content from months prior (although I have no idea how Nancy keeps such fresh product in her book). Most magazines have design staffs, and it is their job to sit in front of CRT screens running photoshop and Quark all day long manipulating photographs. These are photographs coming from freelancers and staffers alike. The calendar is even farther removed. It is done purely as an art piece. If a photographer, just like a freelance magazine writer, submits something, he should expect to see a different product in print. Interestingly, the very same moment of the photograph in question another was caught from an angle slightly more to the rear of the container by Bobby P (Deland's 4:20 Shindig) This happens to be the April shot in his calendar. It looks to me like a piece of loose taping in both shots, but it's probably the flap. Ms. GN, btw, it's aesthetically. sheesh. hehehehehemikeThe Lord giveth and the M-79 taketh away. Welcome to the world of zero slack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites