ramon 0 #1 April 10, 2002 where did that forum come from?J/K ramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #2 April 10, 2002 Whats RW? "Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #3 April 10, 2002 Relative Work= what skydivers are doing if they are not at the DZ on holidays.OpieIf your not on the edge, you can't enjoy the view! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 April 10, 2002 You know... its the stuff before the kiss in the Kiss pass.... "Hey.. Its my camera, and my remote... I'll rewind if I want to!" ~ Goat #2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #5 April 10, 2002 I do not pay attention to the Freefly forum anymore because the only posts are how to and the only answers are wear tight pants and sweatshirts or wear tight shirts and sweatpants. I want to learn more than that. Other than that it is like the Talkback forum!(I will probably get flamed) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #6 April 10, 2002 QuoteI want to learn more than that.Well, we could start a "How To Make A Skyball" discussion.<>"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #7 April 10, 2002 Or they could be talking about that crazy stuff all the new young skydivers are getting into. Very dangerous and just a fad! Well that's what they said about it back in the 70s I think! OpieIf your not on the edge, you can't enjoy the view! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #8 April 10, 2002 QuoteWell, we could start a "How To Make A Skyball" discussion.Sure. Take a basketball and fill it to the top with lead and tie a streamer on it for stability (preferrably bright so it looks cool too). Be sure to send up the skyball with inexperienced jumpers, preferrably just off student status. I hear they're most effective over areas with a large population.You will all bow before the great Skyball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #9 April 10, 2002 sorry.Actually there have been some good posts put out about freeflying by older members. many of them are lost on the server. I know I wrote a long one about a year ago. You get tired writing the samething again and I always hope someone else will fill the gap.Unfortunately the serious talent pool is a lot smaller than RWFreeflyGoat78Ratsand IMGR2are probably the best members of the group and all have atmospheric dolphin ratings. Addressing posts to them in particular might elicit a response. Don't ask Levin If you PM me I will try my best to answer your questions for you, I feel bad. ramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #10 April 10, 2002 and a 20 foot kevlar streamer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #11 April 10, 2002 Aw man, that's *way* more complex than what I was told.All you need is a standard 20lb bowling ball. The drilled-out finger holes take out just enough mass to make it fall a perfect 150 MPH.At least that's what I've been told. Think I'll give it a whirl this weekend. "Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #12 April 10, 2002 Nice one Ramon. That made me laugh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 April 10, 2002 Chromeboy, being that I've only had about 50 FF jumps or so, I try to help where I can, but my experience is very limited. More oft then not, I'm reading posts from Ramon and the Goat and learning a crap load. "Are they short-shorts?" T.B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #14 April 10, 2002 QuoteYou know... its the stuff before the kiss in the Kiss pass.... But not after... that's called flailing... er freeflying. hehe..."Yea, I didn't think we'd actually be turning any points..." ~ Goat #4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #15 April 10, 2002 QuoteChromeboy, being that I've only had about 50 FF jumps or so, I try to help where I can, but my experience is very limited. More oft then not, I'm reading posts from Ramon and the Goat and learning a crap load.Dave...I was in no way pointing you your instructions out. My gripe is what is this post anyway besides humor? Freefliers are better than Relative Workers? At least most of you try to convince people that. All I was saying is that I have not really learned anything from the freeflyer forum. Maybe it is my lack of experience or my lack of freeflying but it seems that it is another Talkback forum. Do I want to learn, hell yes. Did I mean any disrespect, hell no. Did the person who posted this mean anything but a joke, I doubt it.Smile and have fun...it's all about the seperation from the aircraft! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #16 April 10, 2002 Dude, sorry, I didn't mean to come back across to you that way. I in no way took offense to what you said, I was just trying to state my position, especially since I'm a bit of a PW.It does degress at times to a chit chat forum, but there is still some really good info there. "Are they short-shorts?" T.B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #17 April 10, 2002 I posted it because....every post in there is a new post. I have never read it. I don't have fall rate problems or want to learn the mantis position....tunnel camp would be nice thoughI do RW about 4-5 times a month.The newer freefliers are doing rW in spare time to be truly 3D fliers. I was on a jump with Max Cohn this weekend (4 way with video (me)) with tight slots. Started head down...then at a key we all went n our bellys and made a round. then on a key we all went to a sit. then he pointed individually at each flier for him to go head down and fly sith the sit formation till we were all head down.if you looked at nationals video there was some RW in the FF routines. it islimited to simple 2 way and typically winds upo with someone going in a sit from belly and dragging the other to head down amintaing the dock.FF are doing this to try and be a flier at every airspeed.It does not and can not replace fast 4 way or 8 ways skills.Some of the worlds best freefliers were on the 300 way world record though ramonas paula would say'fly your slot!' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sunshine 2 #18 April 10, 2002 QuoteYou know... its the stuff before the kiss in the Kiss pass.... Actually i've done a kiss passes with a certian dz.commer in a sit, headdown, and belly!! I"m multi talented!!It's all about the protein baby!!"Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TequilaGirl 0 #19 April 10, 2002 Ramon are you going to finally make a FF jump with me this weekend????? I have gotten much worse from last time - so it should be very comical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #20 April 10, 2002 Freeflying, by most people's definition is the flying of your body in any attitude.This does not just mean head down, or sit, but also back flying, knee flying, standing and of course belly flying.In order to become proficient in "freeflying" you will have to be competent in belly flying, its as simple as that. Olav was on the German national 8 way RW team for example....Bear in mind, a while back but not really that long ago, RW fliers were castigated and called dangerous freaks by the baton passers. In fact the accepted wisdom was that if enough belly fliers could get together, then they could land a formation without parachutes. We have a dynamic sport, in constant evolution, which is what I love about it. In order to become a well rounded skydiver, we must be at least proficient in most disciplines. Hell, I even enjoy crw and accuracy from time to time.And Ramon, some of the world's worst freefliers have been at 300 ways as well...Take care out there peeps.CyaD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyhi 24 #21 April 10, 2002 QuoteActually i've done a kiss passes with a certian dz.commer in a sit, headdown, and belly!! Head down kiss pass...thanks for the visual! flyhi"Marge, I'm coming to bed & I've been watching women's volleyball on ESPN." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #22 April 10, 2002 I'm going back to the middle East Friday.I'll owe you ramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #23 April 10, 2002 QuoteI'm going back to the middle East FridayTHAT SUCKS!!!! "It's OK because I like the abuse!"-Offspring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #24 April 10, 2002 Quote I'm going back to the middle East Friday.How long this time?"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #25 April 10, 2002 Dagnabbit Ramon, who's gonna carry my flailing ass at San Marcos now ....I remember you mentioning this on sunday, but I didn't know it was so imminent.Hurry back bro....CyaD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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AggieDave 6 #16 April 10, 2002 Dude, sorry, I didn't mean to come back across to you that way. I in no way took offense to what you said, I was just trying to state my position, especially since I'm a bit of a PW.It does degress at times to a chit chat forum, but there is still some really good info there. "Are they short-shorts?" T.B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #17 April 10, 2002 I posted it because....every post in there is a new post. I have never read it. I don't have fall rate problems or want to learn the mantis position....tunnel camp would be nice thoughI do RW about 4-5 times a month.The newer freefliers are doing rW in spare time to be truly 3D fliers. I was on a jump with Max Cohn this weekend (4 way with video (me)) with tight slots. Started head down...then at a key we all went n our bellys and made a round. then on a key we all went to a sit. then he pointed individually at each flier for him to go head down and fly sith the sit formation till we were all head down.if you looked at nationals video there was some RW in the FF routines. it islimited to simple 2 way and typically winds upo with someone going in a sit from belly and dragging the other to head down amintaing the dock.FF are doing this to try and be a flier at every airspeed.It does not and can not replace fast 4 way or 8 ways skills.Some of the worlds best freefliers were on the 300 way world record though ramonas paula would say'fly your slot!' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #18 April 10, 2002 QuoteYou know... its the stuff before the kiss in the Kiss pass.... Actually i've done a kiss passes with a certian dz.commer in a sit, headdown, and belly!! I"m multi talented!!It's all about the protein baby!!"Who gave Phreezone the remote again?!" ~ Goat Blower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TequilaGirl 0 #19 April 10, 2002 Ramon are you going to finally make a FF jump with me this weekend????? I have gotten much worse from last time - so it should be very comical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #20 April 10, 2002 Freeflying, by most people's definition is the flying of your body in any attitude.This does not just mean head down, or sit, but also back flying, knee flying, standing and of course belly flying.In order to become proficient in "freeflying" you will have to be competent in belly flying, its as simple as that. Olav was on the German national 8 way RW team for example....Bear in mind, a while back but not really that long ago, RW fliers were castigated and called dangerous freaks by the baton passers. In fact the accepted wisdom was that if enough belly fliers could get together, then they could land a formation without parachutes. We have a dynamic sport, in constant evolution, which is what I love about it. In order to become a well rounded skydiver, we must be at least proficient in most disciplines. Hell, I even enjoy crw and accuracy from time to time.And Ramon, some of the world's worst freefliers have been at 300 ways as well...Take care out there peeps.CyaD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #21 April 10, 2002 QuoteActually i've done a kiss passes with a certian dz.commer in a sit, headdown, and belly!! Head down kiss pass...thanks for the visual! flyhi"Marge, I'm coming to bed & I've been watching women's volleyball on ESPN." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #22 April 10, 2002 I'm going back to the middle East Friday.I'll owe you ramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #23 April 10, 2002 QuoteI'm going back to the middle East FridayTHAT SUCKS!!!! "It's OK because I like the abuse!"-Offspring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #24 April 10, 2002 Quote I'm going back to the middle East Friday.How long this time?"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #25 April 10, 2002 Dagnabbit Ramon, who's gonna carry my flailing ass at San Marcos now ....I remember you mentioning this on sunday, but I didn't know it was so imminent.Hurry back bro....CyaD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
