Bill Maher

[AndyMan 7]

"Heroes are people who put themselves in harm's way, not people who find themselves in harm's way".
Agree? Disagree?
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[AggieDave 6]

Disagree.
Heros are those who face an obsticle so great that they can not over come, but through all adversity, due to their strength of character and resolved will, they overcome.
A human cannonball, I rise above it all
Up higher then a trapeze, I can fly

[Scratch 0]

Disagree
I'm with Dave on this one
Every day above ground is a good day.

[lazerq3 0]

Yeah I agree to disagree!!! I think heros are people that find themselves in a situation that they have no chioce but to react accordingly.......Too many people have died trying to be heros by putting themselves in unessisary dangers!!!! I mean look at police and firemen/women...they dont go out and try to put htere selves in danger to be a hero...they do there job as safe as the situation allows them too to get the job done and save lives......unfortunatly sometimes theres no safe way around it.......either way there all heros to me whether they think so or not!!
jason

[FallingILweenie 0]

I disagree with Dave simply because just hardship doesn't make a person a hero.
A person that overcomes cancer is not a hero. They are resilient as hell and have my respect because from what I understand the treatments are very painful, but they aren't heroes. I guess to me a hero involves a selflessness or dedication to some other person.
I agree that policemen, firemen, soldiers, etc can be heroes because they put their life on the line, but so can doctors and teachers. They don't risk as much but what they give can be just as great. I think a hero is more about what you give to another person than what you give of yourself (because focusing on what you give of yourself is slanting it in a somewhat selfish direction).
my own opinion, of course.
blue skies
Tomas
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-Homer

[AggieDave 6]

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but so can doctors and teachers

What I said isn't limited to those who put their lives on the line. The obsticles faced and adversities faced could be that one kid from a broken home headed for personal disaster that a teacher "saves" or the doctor who provided free care for a family who couldn't afford it.
I agree with you Tomas, I'm just saying that what I said covered that. I didn't say anything about hardship. A human cannonball, I rise above it all
Up higher then a trapeze, I can fly

[FallingILweenie 0]

My bad, that's how I understood it.
Now, can someone be my new hero and make it nice out?
blue skies
Tomas
"Marge, it takes 2 people to lie. One to lie and one to listen."
-Homer

[AggieDave 6]

*poof* Nice weather...Same here, actually, the forcast is looking slim for this weekend
A human cannonball, I rise above it all
Up higher then a trapeze, I can fly

[SkydiveMonkey 0]

I think it's both - Heros will put themsleves into danger to help others, but on the other hand, people find themselves in the shit and still have the courage to make a difference.
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[AndyMan 7]

I wonder if this is another case of Bill "Open mouth, insert foot, remove foot, season to taste...."
I stumbled acrross the quote, and without knowing the context, thought of the victims of 9/11.
Where the office workers heros? I think he's right - simply being a victim of disaster does not a hero make, but the firefighters - those who ran INTO the building where. Is it possible I agree with Bill Maher? looks like it...
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[skymedic 0]

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I mean look at police and firemen/women...they dont go out and try to put htere selves in danger to be a hero...they do there job as safe as the situation allows them too to get the job done and save lives......unfortunatly sometimes theres no safe way around it.......either way there all heros to me whether they think so or not!!

the FDNY brothers that I lost on 9/11 KNEW FOR SURE that building was coming down...yet they still went in....when I saw those planes hit I knew from my original time in the fire academy the steel in that place would not hold...yet they still went in....
as a firefighter and a paramedic...we go where others do not wish to tread...now whether that makes me a hero or not...I do not know....but I did rescue 22 dogs last night from a fire....it was fun....but I dont see that as heroic....even if the fire was licking our ass a little.......
Cheers....vasbyt
marc
"I have no fear of falling, I just hate hitting the ground"-The Badlees...

[AggieDave 6]

Ann would give you a medal!
A human cannonball, I rise above it all
Up higher then a trapeze, I can fly

[JDBoston 0]

A hero is someone who puts the welfare of others above their own personal comfort and safety. There are degrees of this, of course, so in order to narrow the definition I would say they need to risk physical harm, public ridicule, poverty or something similarly serious.
Personally, I don't think it matters whether they sought out the situation, or simply found themselves in it and stayed.
Joe

[bill2 0]

Agree/disagree. People who find themselves in harm's way can end up being heroes because of what they did once they found themselves in that particular situation. I do think that heroes, to be heroes, need to risk something. The term hero these days is sadly overused.

[quade 4]

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"Heroes are people who put themselves in harm's way, not people who find themselves in harm's way".

I think you have to understand what he means my this.
I take this to mean that the passengers that sat there and did nothing were not nessasarily heros just because they were on the plane, but those that attempted to retake the plane certainly were heros even though they simply "found" themselves in that position.
Also, remember that it's Bill Maher's job to stir up a little discussion and make you think of stuff like this. He gets a lot of heat for what he says things sometimes, but then again, that's his job.
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