Flying camera is the poop!!!

[ChromeBoy 0]

I was gonna say Spy if you got YOUR body to fall at 300 mph I need to move back down to Florida so you can teach me a few things!

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[freeflir29 0]

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but it is hard to fall that speed while looking up at your subject

No doubt....I learned so much in just those 7 jumps this weekend. It actually has made me a better flyer. I stopped thinking so much about what I was doing and just started doing whatever it took to put me where I needed to be. Pretty cool....
Ahhhh.....177 MPH sounds much more reasonable. That makes me even more proud of myself. I actually have a decent fall rate now. I don't know what happened but all of a sudden I just "Got it" flying Head Down????? I feel so comfortable now and it seems I can just fly where ever I want to. What fun!!!
"Here I come to save the BOOBIES!"

[wildblue 7]

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Ahh, I just got it from Quade's post... fps, not mph... that is much less shocking

I'm guessing that's what Clay did too.
Also, you're showing it TAS, most people talk in SAS
(True Airspeed vs Skydiver Airspeed)
About the space balls - from what I've heard, they actually have 2 speeds - 150 and 170 mph - if they see a big boy coming for his test, they throw the 150, if you're a little guy, they throw the 170. Make you work at the extreme limit of your range (if you can even stay up/down with it)
You don't scare me! I got chunks of guys like you in my stool!!

[skreamer 1]

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One of the South Africans mentioned that the top speed showed 260 on his Pro Track

I've never met a nice South African....
"Look before you jump, don't die until you're dead"

[ChromeBoy 0]

I don't get it. One minute you are bragging about going 280 mph chasing a spaceball and then you are corrected and it is brought to your attention that you were actually flying only 170 mph and your response is "that sounds better." It sounds like you still need a lot of work for freefall awareness if you can't tell the difference of 100mph. I am not flaming you Clay just bringing us back to reality.

[kmcguffee 0]

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About the space balls - from what I've heard, they actually have 2 speeds - 150 and 170 mph - if they see a big boy coming for his test, they throw the 150, if you're a little guy, they throw the 170.

Put your blast shield down and "feel the force Luke". Come to the Dark Side.
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."

[freeflir29 0]

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you are corrected and it is brought to your attention that you were actually flying only 170 mph and your response is "that sounds better."

When I am constantly frustrated by people that fall really slow and end up doing half my dive in a sit fly instead of HD so I don't sink out.....yes....knowing that I was holding in the 160's-170's range on my head is awesome!!! I could have easily gone much faster and even a little bit slower......and Chrommie...How many Head Down jumps do you have? Can you even break 200MPH? Like I said once before....I don't own a Pro Track so I have no idea how fast or slow I go on a jump unless someone else has one and tells me.
150 MPH Space ball????.......That'd be easy for me.....on my belly...."Here I come to save the BOOBIES!"

[ChromeBoy 0]

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and Chrommie...How many Head Down jumps do you have? Can you even break 200MPH? Like I said once before....I don't own a Pro Track so I have no idea how fast or slow I go on a jump unless someone else has one and tells me.

I have never really said anything about my freeflying skills especially head down. As I said, I was not flaming you. All I am saying is that the difference in freefall time between 170 mph and close to 300 mph has to be dramatically obvious. You have to admit that it is pretty funny that you thought you were flying 280 mph chasing a spaceball.

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[Staso 0]

>>btw, i hit 291 last sunday :) still a little shy of 300 :(
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> Do you just get the max speed from the column in jump-track or am I missing something?
i'm not sure i know what you mean. 291 mph was my max speed at that jump. take a look at my free fall profile in attachment.
that's not the number that is used for speed skydiving, it's just
my top speed. for competition they use the average (it's not really average actually) speed at what you cover 1 vertical kilometer. my best result is 266 mph.
stan.

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Hehehe....Ya got a few folk startled there young vidiot, 260mph indeed.
Dude, if yer gonna try and make money or get free jumps, your gonna have to head for the light. The money in camera flying is all in AFF, tandems, and belly fliers.
There's too many cameras on most FF loads to make a camera flier value for money , of course YMMV.
So the advice I normally pass on to newbie cam people, and I'm by no means an expert, is to master the flying type that you are gonna film BEFORE trying to film it. Sadly dude that means going on your belly, and doing the RW thang.....Hey, I came over from there and its actually quite a lot of fun, and you will be a better person for it (plenty scope there then ), as they do say, 'Its all good".
Cya
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[freeflir29 0]

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You have to admit that it is pretty funny that you thought you were flying 280 mph chasing a spaceball.

I didn't find humor in it....Rob said 260....he didn't say 260 what...he just said 260. I don't jump with a Pro Track or an Air Speed indicator so I have no idea nor do I really care what speed I fly. The only air speed I fly is 0 MPH....... relative to other jumpers or a space ball. Otherwise I could fall at 100 or 300 and I really don't care.
"Here I come to save the BOOBIES!"

[freeflir29 0]

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Sadly dude that means going on your belly

Well...not always....granted...you spend most of the dive on your belly but being a good free flyer gives you a lot more flexibility. Especially on the exits. I just have to get a camera suit so I can actually slow down enough to stay with a tandem.
"Here I come to save the BOOBIES!"

[Spy38W 0]

Thanks Stan, I was just having issues b/c I'm still new to the protrack/jumptrack, and didn't realize jumptrack was set to fps by default and couldn't figure out how I got 300 on my pre-second speed dive. I thought I was ready to go pro. It's some fun stuff though.
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Give them a sip of the darkside, and they just thirst for more.

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"you spend most of the dive on your belly but being a good free flyer gives you a lot more flexibility. "
That rules me out then. "I just have to get a camera suit"
Wouldn't your nice Michigan suit work just as well........My Symbiosis was built specifically for filming tandems (built -in swoop cords and very baggy arms/legs), and it really works well for freeflying, and it arrived lickety spit.....
Or mebbe I shouldn't sour your rosy glow by mentioning your long expected garb.
Cya
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[Staso 0]

> I thought I was ready to go pro
that would be wicked cool to hit 300 mph on the second dive. :)

[freeflir29 0]

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Or mebbe I shouldn't sour your rosy glow by mentioning your long expected garb

Yep.....84 days ago I ordered it. I talked to Mike last week and he gave me some load of shit about his zig zag sewing machine being broken. For the $335 I paid for that suit it would almost buy a brand freakin new sewing machine. This will definately be the last freakin thing I ever buy from Mike Michigan. If it is not here in the next 2 days I'm cancelling my fucking order anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of manufacturers that would love to build me a suit in a timely manner. Mike Michigan sucks!
"Here I come to save the BOOBIES!"

[hookit 0]

Congratulations! 291 is a very respectable high speed. What are you wearing on your speed attempts?

[nacmacfeegle 0]

84 days, man you will have grown out of it before it arrives.....

Cya
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[ChromeBoy 0]

What make of suit Clay with what options? I will call Michigan and see the estimated delivery time for a new suit. If he says shorter than I will say then how come Clay still hasn't received his after nearly 90 days.

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[kmcguffee 0]

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84 days, man you will have grown out of it before it arrives.....

LMAO, like salt in a wound. BTW, did I tell you that I received my new FF suit in about a week and a half?
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."

[Staso 0]

> Congratulations! 291 is a very respectable high speed. What are you wearing on your speed attempts?
just regular RW suit with booties and w/o arm grippers. not even very tight. air friction is not my problem yet. my acceleration is steep, my balance at high speed sucks. i'm constanlty hitting 280+ speed now and i keep loosing my balance there. but i'll work my way there :)
stan.