jfields 0 #26 June 19, 2002 QuoteMaybe in several years I'll do it anyway. I figure they have gotten the complications worked out by then or developed a better method for correcting vision.I agree completely. It is just a matter of time. I won't pay to be a guinea pig. When I did medical testing in college, they paid me! Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 June 19, 2002 Not really sure on the discount thing. I guess I could ask David van Greuningen. I'm pretty sure that's who he went to and he says he got great results.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #28 June 19, 2002 QuoteWhen I did medical testing in college, they paid me! Ohhh.....thats what happened...."Here I come to save the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #29 June 19, 2002 Quotechance of getting pregnant while using a Condom is about 10%,That can't possibly be accurate. That would mean 1 out of 10 times that you have sex while using a condom you get someone pregnant. Let's see, total of about 9 years in long relationships (not even bothering figuring out flings), average 4 times a week having sex. That means i've got 187 kids running around!!!cielos azules y cerveza fría-Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #30 June 19, 2002 LOL Blue Skies ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #31 June 19, 2002 QuoteWhen I did medical testing in college, they paid me! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ohhh.....thats what happened....Yup. That and playing with mercury as a child. What is your excuse? Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #32 June 19, 2002 QuoteWhat is your excuse?Power lines....and a lot of lead paint in the house. So yummy for snacking....."Here I come to save the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #33 June 19, 2002 And here was me thinking it was a particularly shallow gene pool..."I might bend my hat in the process, but I'd still teach that guy a lesson or two" David Lund...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #34 June 19, 2002 QuoteAnd here was me thinking it was a particularly shallow gene pool...That too....no college graduates in my family. Although it doesn't seem my Dad or sister had any need for that. Now if I can just make as much as they do....."Here I come to save the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #35 June 19, 2002 I've been seriously considering LASIK for a long time. My vision is truly awful, at 7.5 and 6 diopters correction. The complication rate, however, is disquieting. There are a few options to myopics. I've had it with glasses, as I have zero peripheral vision. There are 30-day night and day contacts (put them in, wear them for 30 days without taking them out, then disinfect and reinsert). I've worn extended wear contacts night and day before and it's not a bad solution. LASIK is a tad scary, as the changes are permanent and complications can happen. Even "perfect" LASIK patients can end up with night glare and halos. There are Intacs, which are a removeable insert that reshapes the cornea. I'd be all for it, but my vision is too poor for their limited correction. What I'm excited about is intraocular lens inserts. In a couple of years, they should be commercially available. They are small lenses inserted into the eye and can correct severe vision problems. They are reversible, which is comforting, if somehow they screw it up. I think I can live with contacts until then... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bill2 0 #36 June 19, 2002 I remember the movie but not that actual scene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #37 June 19, 2002 QuoteThis gives me memories of the laser table in the old movie "Logan's Run". Anyone else here old enough to remember seeing that at the movie theater?I'm going to help you out Chuck. It starred Farrah Fawcett and I think she may have showed her BOOBIES in it."JANE, HOW DO YOU STOP THIS CRAZY THING?"Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #38 June 19, 2002 QuoteMy vision is truly awful, at 7.5 and 6 diopters correction. That's not so bad. My vision pre-LASIK was somewhere near 20/1600. That had to be interpolated, by the way, the charts don't go that high; but my correction was 13.5 and 13.75 diopters with -1.50 sphere. When I got a pair of glasses, a major observatory somewhere in the world had to shut down.I did a LOT of research, the complications may run 2%, but investigate what those "complications" are and you'll find that they're nothing major. Do research not only on the technology, but on the surgeons you consider. I found two that have lots of experience with moderate to severe myopes, and chose one who not only spent a long time consulting with me before agreeing to help, but is actually make a specialty of working with difficult cases.Stay away from the LASIK mills. They are easy to spot, they advertise a lot, have fancy new offices and pretty people manning the desk. The people at my doc's office were not ugly, but neither were they there simply because they look good, rather because they are good at their job and care about it.As for the starring/haloing, I had MUCH more problem with that before my surgery (whether I was wearing glasses or contacts). The latest lasers use multiple beams that rotate and overlap, leaving a smoother cornea and eliminating those effects. The ONLY problem I have is seeing fine detail in very poor light such as at dusk. In daylight or true night, no problem at all. I now see 20/30 overall and do not uses corrective lenses for anything.The only other caveat I can give you if you decide to go for it is to not expect the overnight miracles as attested to in the ads. With severe myopia, it is not unusual to need adjustments after a few months when the corneas settle down and recover from the process. While my vision improved markedly at once following the initial surgery, I was a bit disappointed at my progress. The Dr. said it was going as he expected, that bouyed me up some. I wore "bandaid" contacts the first couple months after surgery, so that my eyes didn't have to strain to accomodate their new acuity. They had to "learn" how to focus. It has been 2 years and 3 months since the first surgery and I know it was the best money I ever spent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #39 June 19, 2002 Man thats a really scary story rhino!!!.......well at least the things I work with cant talk back to me!!.....I think I'll stick with glasses if I start getting bad vision!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #40 June 20, 2002 QuoteThat's not so bad. My vision pre-LASIK was somewhere near 20/1600. That had to be interpolated, by the way, the charts don't go that high; but my correction was 13.5 and 13.75 diopters with -1.50 sphere. When I got a pair of glasses, a major observatory somewhere in the world had to shut down.Wow, that's some nearsightedness! I don't meet too many people whose vision is worse than mine.QuoteAs for the starring/haloing, I had MUCH more problem with that before my surgery (whether I was wearing glasses or contacts). The latest lasers use multiple beams that rotate and overlap, leaving a smoother cornea and eliminating those effects. The ONLY problem I have is seeing fine detail in very poor light such as at dusk. In daylight or true night, no problem at all. I now see 20/30 overall and do not uses corrective lenses for anything.I have pretty severe starring/haloing when I wear glasses, but my contacts eliminate them. I see very well at night (corrected), and I don't want to mess with that.I really want LASIK to be the answer. I'd love to deal with it now and not have to think about my vision for 20 years (and correction for middle-aged farsightedness is in the offing). I'm still a bit wary of it, though. I'd be more willing to pull the trigger if there weren't alternatives in the near-term.I'd love to not have to worry about losing a contact at a critical moment, though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airborne31582 0 #41 June 20, 2002 In reply to:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------t has been 2 years and 3 months since the first surgery and I know it was the best money I ever spent!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Well, as much as I an thankful for my LASIK operation, I think the best money I have ever spent is the money I spent on my rig!!!!Chris Ramirez New Mexico State University Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skystorm 0 #42 June 21, 2002 Don't have the time to read all the post, but on the positive side:Crazymel just had that exact same operation, and she's doing fine. She went in early on Tuesday morning and in the afternoon she was back home. She only complained that her eyes were feeling a little tired.Spoke to her yesterday and she flying in the clouds about not having to wear contacts or glasses again.Just a FYI.Don't THINK you can, KNOW you can... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skystorm 0 #43 June 21, 2002 Oops, me and my fast typing fingers....Just spoken to Mel, she's having trouble with her right eye. A dry patch that doesn't want to heal right. She has to use a spesialized eyedrop every ten minutes to keep the eye moisten otherwise her vision deterioates (sp).She has to go see a specialist in Dubai, when she gets back home. Don't THINK you can, KNOW you can... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #44 June 21, 2002 I hope she is going to be o.k. Blue Skies ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skystorm 0 #45 June 22, 2002 Just spoken to her this morning.She's positive that her eye will heal, she just mustn't forget to put in the eyedrops the doctor gave her.She's flying home tonight, starting to work tomorrow, so she'll be back on here sometime tomorrow....Don't THINK you can, KNOW you can... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
