hobbes4star 0 #26 June 26, 2002 wasn't this thread about someone who wrote something in a column?if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gale 0 #27 June 26, 2002 I would agree with this too. After carefully reading the article (not skimming it) it seems that he's really just making fun of the stereotype protrayed in the media and that if images of skydiving make you drink mountain dew - you're an idiot (on this most of us would agree) His point, I think, is that most people's (men's) lives are not extreme so they should stop buying into the marketing telling them that it is or could be with their product. Us (skydivers) happen to be in the much smaller catagory where our life is "extreme". It's not really about us. GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #28 June 26, 2002 Quotewasn't this thread about someone who wrote something in a column yes, it wasRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #29 June 26, 2002 You're way off base getting upset about this. The article isn't about extreme sports. It's about using extreme sports in advertising. He says the advertisers are trying to convince the general populus that drinking a Mountain Dew is the equivalent of skydiving (or mountain biking, or kayaking, or bungee jumping, or whatever). And he's right. Those of us who participate in extreme sports (and the term 'extreme' is relative) know better. We know what's real. It's the manicured, $30 haircut, getting-a-facial, tanning-bed, MBA, salary-man that the article is aimed at. If you want to be part of extreme sports, you don't drink Mountain Dew or watch X-games. You get off your ass and get out there. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #30 June 26, 2002 Actually, I didn't find the article all that negative to extreme sports people - but it did make plently of fun to the people who would never consider something extreme, but who would like the "image" of it nonetheless. The visual of the guy in the coffee shop talking about the Eco-Challenge was funny, and accurate; pointing out that there he is, in the safety of his life, convenient $5 a cup coffee shop open for business, and this guy could not survive the first day of the Eco Challenge, let alone 5 jumps from an airplane. The advertising sector using extremism to buy a product is nothing new - I have yet to ever get my laundry quite as clean as she does, or wear makeup quite as well as they do on Revlon. I have not managed to save time with that particular vaccuum, nor have I been able to "tighten, flatten and look great while never breaking a sweat". My teeth are not the whitest I was promised; and my window still streaks, no matter what product I use (and the plant does NOT reach for the clean window pane over the "other brand"... The fact that using "extremism" in sports to sell Gatorade, backpacks, soups, or toothpaste is nothing new. And the article makes an interesting point - "either shit, or get off the pot", as my Dad would say. Drinking Mountain Dew does NOT enable you to jump from a plane, but desire, hard work, and taking risks does. That, to me, was the point. But, as always, I reserve the right to be wrong. Often am, too! Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #31 June 26, 2002 yeah... and those pills haven't made my penis any bigger... it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #32 June 26, 2002 Quoteand those pills haven't made my penis any bigger... Use a hammer instead....works every time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #33 June 26, 2002 Must've worked for Remi, cos he is the biggest penis I know... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #34 June 26, 2002 >What's wrong with "extreme" sports? Nada. Responsibility has > nothing to do with what a person enjoys with play. You're confusing two different things, I think. I'm a skydiver but don't consider myself extreme. I dislike the "mythos of the extreme" as much as this author seems to - it has become a meaningless term used to sell sports drinks. He's not putting down skydiving. He's putting down the people who buy an SUV because it's an "extreme" vehicle, then use that vehicle to haul the kids to school. Put in our terms. he's ragging on a guy that buys a Crossfire, then uses it as a car cover, all the time being proud of how extreme he is since he has this cool piece of nylon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenhawk420 0 #35 June 26, 2002 Go on guys and gals give him "Shit" in the nicest possible way. I am offended and my feelings are truely hurt, "snivel" *blow nose*. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #36 June 26, 2002 QuoteIt's the manicured, $30 haircut, getting-a-facial, tanning-bed, MBA, salary-man that the article is aimed at. We have quite a few of those types at our drop zone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #37 June 26, 2002 Skydiving is extreme? Skydiving is the most tranquil sport that connects mind and body. Like yoga. My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #38 June 26, 2002 MAN, THAT GUY DESERVES AN ASS-KICKING!!! WTF?!? Who asked for his opinion in the first place. What a f@%$ing geek! 7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #39 June 26, 2002 Actually, now that I have read it more carefully, I see that he is really speaking out against the advertizing campaign that went along with extreme sports, however, there is nothing in the article to imply that he is in favor of extreme sports (don't see skydiving as extremem in the first place) at all in ther first place. Still think he is a geek!7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #40 June 26, 2002 This is an e-mail i wrote to the "Honolulu Advertiser": To whom it may concern: The article about extreme sports was completely uncalled for. Your writer obviously has no idea what this is all about. He says that it is merely another corporate stunt to gain the 18-35 yr old market, but i strongly disagree. Simply put, life is meant to be lived. If you decide to live it to the fullest by sitting behind a desk, fine. Many of us out here merely stretch life to it's farthest boundaries, thus experiencing a truly enlightened view of the world in which we live. Perhaps your Michael Tsai is scared to leave the security of only doing things he knows about. Perhaps he tried extreme sports and wasn't able physically or mentally. Either way, he has no right to criticize us for knowing how to enjoy our lives. My name is A.T. Clinger, and I am a skydiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #41 June 26, 2002 You know from my opinion that was a pretty good article. Well it seems to me that he is bagging on people that are not into adrenaline sports that still try to personify that personality. People driving SUV's that do not need them. I like the reference to parents driving in the gravel lot next to the AYSO gameThis article is not aimed towards us jumpers. It is aimed at the whuffo's who act as if they are "Xtreme" Just my .10 cause .02 is free Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #42 June 26, 2002 Quotethere is nothing in the article to imply that he is in favor of extreme sports at all True. But equally true is that there is no evidence that he is against it. What is at issue is the overcommercialization of the image of being "extreme". Equally mocked are the people that buy into it while never making the effort to try any of the afforementioned activities. There are plenty of yuppies where I live (Washington DC) that have the vehicle and all the gear for an entire eco-challenge team, but think a single mosquito bite is grossly uncivilized and something beyond their ability to overcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hohonukai 0 #43 June 26, 2002 QuoteIf you want to be part of extreme sports, you don't drink Mountain Dew or watch X-games. You get off your ass and get out there. I watch the X-games. Advertising isn't necessarily all negative. It can draw people in to actually go out and try it, imho. Skreamer: initially the article came across as very negative about extreme sports even though it focused on advertising, maybe that's me being too sensitive. If I am, I am. But I'm not on a high horse. Maybe me posting this is being too sensitive about the high horse bit too. Neigh Neigh Well, the writer definitely sparked me. Must be a good writer to keep me from being not entirely positive or negative walking away from reading it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdfreefly 1 #44 June 26, 2002 You guys completely missed the point of this article. He wasn't bashing extreme sports. He was bashing the corporate bastardization of our extreme sports in an effort to get us to buy more shit we can't afford. Did you even read the article or did you just skim it until you found a sentance you didn't like? Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitflyr 0 #45 June 27, 2002 What is at issue is the overcommercialization of the image of being "extreme". QuoteOne of the businesses in my area has come up with a new "extreme" sport. Are you ready for this? It's extreme bowling! That's right, folks---bowling. They turn on some black lights and music, bowl from a conga line, and presto---bowling is an extreme sport. Julie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #46 June 27, 2002 Julie, show a bit of openmindedness.... bowling can be extremely dangerous... and they dont have any kind of AADs.... the fools...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #47 June 27, 2002 Quotebowling can be extremely dangerous... and they dont have any kind of AADs And the blacklights and music can be more disorienting than a severe case of hypoxia. Those bowlers are Xtreme! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skreamer 1 #48 June 27, 2002 No shit, I've heard some of those maniacs even drink before AND while bowling!!!! For the love of God people, can somebody please regulate that sport before somebody gets hurt!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ernokaikkonen 0 #49 June 27, 2002 "No shit, there I was, ready to throw the ball down the lane, when all that beer got better of me and my brand-spanking-new BB2100X slipped out of the fingers of yours truly. And wouldn't you believe it; there Frank was, minding his own business, when the ball landed squarely on his foot(mind you in those days we didn't use any of thoise pansyass steel-capped shoes). Screaming and yelling, man I can tell you his ankle wasn't pretty to look at. Well they took him away to the hospital, and they had to fill his ankle with all sorts of nuts'n'bolts to make the man walk again... Frank you still have that X-ray now do you?" Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #50 June 27, 2002 Dude.. thats nothing.... You should have seen the bad case of mold I got from those rent-a-shoes.... I had to got hooked up on some serious meds man.... I strongly recommend getting some Doc Shool Xtreme Antibac man.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Remster 30 #46 June 27, 2002 Julie, show a bit of openmindedness.... bowling can be extremely dangerous... and they dont have any kind of AADs.... the fools...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #47 June 27, 2002 Quotebowling can be extremely dangerous... and they dont have any kind of AADs And the blacklights and music can be more disorienting than a severe case of hypoxia. Those bowlers are Xtreme! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #48 June 27, 2002 No shit, I've heard some of those maniacs even drink before AND while bowling!!!! For the love of God people, can somebody please regulate that sport before somebody gets hurt!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #49 June 27, 2002 "No shit, there I was, ready to throw the ball down the lane, when all that beer got better of me and my brand-spanking-new BB2100X slipped out of the fingers of yours truly. And wouldn't you believe it; there Frank was, minding his own business, when the ball landed squarely on his foot(mind you in those days we didn't use any of thoise pansyass steel-capped shoes). Screaming and yelling, man I can tell you his ankle wasn't pretty to look at. Well they took him away to the hospital, and they had to fill his ankle with all sorts of nuts'n'bolts to make the man walk again... Frank you still have that X-ray now do you?" Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #50 June 27, 2002 Dude.. thats nothing.... You should have seen the bad case of mold I got from those rent-a-shoes.... I had to got hooked up on some serious meds man.... I strongly recommend getting some Doc Shool Xtreme Antibac man.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
