skymama 37 #1 July 9, 2002 I got this e-mail from JT. He had the file on his computer, so did I, and so did a friend of mine. I'm just hoping the e-mail isn't a hoax, and is making us delete a file we use. PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS E-MAIL > I have received a message >today from one of my > >friends in my Address Book. > > > His Address Book had been infected by a virus and > >it was passed on to my > > computer. > My Address Book, in turn, has been infected. > The >virus, which is called JDBGMGR.EXE is not > >detected by Norton or McAfee > > anti-virus systems. > The virus sits quietly for 14 days before >damaging > >the system. > > It is sent automatically by the messenger and by > >the Address Book, whether > > or not you > sent emails to your contacts. I have checked, > >found it, and deleted it. > > Here's how to check for the virus and how to get > >rid of it: > > DO THIS: > 1. Go to START, Select Find or Search option. > > 2. >In the Files/Folder option, write the name > >"jdbgmgr.exe" > > > 3. Be sure you search your C: drive and any other > >drives you may have. > > > 4. Click "find now" > > 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon >with the name > >"jdbgmgr.exe" > > > > DO NOT OPEN IT. > > > 6. Go to edit and chose "select all" >to highlight > >the file without opening > > it. > 7. Now go to file and select "delete". It will be > >sent to the Recycle Bin > > > 8. Go to the Recycle Bin and delete it there as > >well.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #2 July 9, 2002 It's a hoax. See here for details - http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html I've bookmarked a couple of sites that list the various hoaxes floating around. Do a search on "hoax" on your favorite search engine, and bookmark the results Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hohonukai 0 #3 July 9, 2002 http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html not exactly the same text message, but nonetheless...describes what the file is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #4 July 10, 2002 I heard of some hoax a While ago but it was a different file name. I guess I gotta go see that link. whatever it was the was a silly little bear icon for it.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites seedy 0 #5 July 10, 2002 We've been warned about several of these where I work. Don't delete any file you are told to search for until you check the anti-virus sites. These are files from you Windows operating system. I intend to live forever -- so far, so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #6 July 10, 2002 Yeah, It's a virus, just not a computer virus. What do they call these? Socially engineered viruses? Same thing as the "help me find my missing child" e-mails. someone else from here was asking about this a few weeks ago. Typically, the first thing I do when I get an e-mail about a virus (and it's usually my mom) I will check www.sarc.com and then send her the link (and everyone else she copied on it) telling them it is a hoax. I think that in the 8 years I've been in the industry, I've seen one, maybe two e-mails that were genuine. The point is, if you have a virus,the first thing you should do is check your defs and make sure thwey are up to date. If not, update them NOW, then run a virus scan. AS for the e-mails, if you really want to help, do the homework first before you blindly forward it along to everyone. P.s The irony of this is my Mom got the same e-mail and deleted the file. She swears the Internet is faster as a resultI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ernokaikkonen 0 #7 July 10, 2002 >Yeah, It's a virus, just not a computer virus. What do they call these? >Socially engineered viruses? Or a "norwegian virus", like the one I received: Quote We have just sent you the "NORWEGIAN VIRUS." Since we do not have any programming experience and do not know how to actually damage your computer, this virus works on the honor system. Please forward this virus to everyone on your mailing list and then manually delete all of the files on your hard drive. Thank you for your cooperation. Ole and Sven Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #8 July 10, 2002 MUHAHAHA..... I love it :) Kinda reminds me of the joke EXE that went around which did a list of your hard drive then asked if you wantted to Delete all files. When clicking on no, it would look like it deleted all of them anyway...I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #9 July 10, 2002 I am usually skeptical of these email too. but I got it from some one I believe. she typed a message saying siad actually had it. It was 615 am before work so I checked real quick and deleted it. I havent noticed any problems with my computer yet. but I would be surprised if i see one soon I am scheduled for a crash any day now.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fonz 0 #10 July 10, 2002 QuoteI'm just hoping the e-mail isn't a hoax, and is making us delete a file we use. Install this and you'll never have to worry about viruses, worms and hoaxes http://www.freebsd.org or http://www.linux.org Sorry, just couldn't resistAnd five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #11 July 10, 2002 hey fonz, you must think ppl here know about that stuff. wtf was all that crap? youre talking to a layman here...My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #12 July 10, 2002 basically, if you run linux or unix (freebsd is a free unix variant), you won't get viruses because of the way unix works. basically, it isn't as stupid as windoze. it also isn't for neophytes either as it requires and assumes a fair amount of knowledge to get them working in the first place. i like freebsd though, still learning it, but it's kinda cool. "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #13 July 10, 2002 thanks bunky. I was looking at number for 9 straight hours today I did not even want to get in the forums but ...I HAVE TO FEED THE ADDICTION! my eyes are bleeding!(well they feel like it anyway)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fonz 0 #14 July 10, 2002 Quotehey fonz, you must think ppl here know about that stuff. wtf was all that crap? youre talking to a layman here... Hehe. That's why I wrote that I just couldn't resist And five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #15 July 10, 2002 Oh... linux/unix/whatever can still get viruses, but because 90% of all computers are Windows and 95% of Net users are on windows, why should a Virus writer target that 5% of users that odds are are as smart as the writer and would'nt fall for it anyways. Holes are in every OS and application. Apache.. that powers like 55% of all websites has a major hole in it that unless patched can allow a Code Red style attack on that platform too... Its not just a Windows issue. Hell... even in the BIND there is a flaw that if properly executed on the major DNS servers it would take out the majority of the net.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fonz 0 #16 July 10, 2002 QuoteOh... linux/unix/whatever can still get viruses True. But the damage they can do is much more limited. QuoteHoles are in every OS and application. Yep. But viruses grow too big if they have to carry an exploit with them... Granted, every OS has holes but my point is that UN*X's vulnerability to viruses is much less than Windoze's.And five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #17 July 10, 2002 true, but i was just trying to explain things to a windows user, who , for the most part, don't know or need to know what Apache or BIND or DNS or any other stuff to do what they want/need to do online. like you said, most viruses are targeted at windows for the same reason that most software is written for it, there's simply an exponentially larger installed base to target. to hit a unix system you would have to know some relatively exotic scripts, or c programming, where windows can be had with any number of visual programming and scritping tools, and the script kiddies that write them are by and large not all that smart."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #18 July 10, 2002 QuoteI am usually skeptical of these email too. but I got it from some one I believe. she typed a message saying siad actually had it. It was 615 am before work so I checked real quick and deleted it. I havent noticed any problems with my computer yet. but I would be surprised if i see one soon I am scheduled for a crash any day now. Of course she had it. Everyone with windows has that file, but you're supposed to. It's a java file. It won't kill your machine to not have that file, but some java applets won't run properly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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hohonukai 0 #3 July 9, 2002 http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html not exactly the same text message, but nonetheless...describes what the file is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #4 July 10, 2002 I heard of some hoax a While ago but it was a different file name. I guess I gotta go see that link. whatever it was the was a silly little bear icon for it.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seedy 0 #5 July 10, 2002 We've been warned about several of these where I work. Don't delete any file you are told to search for until you check the anti-virus sites. These are files from you Windows operating system. I intend to live forever -- so far, so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #6 July 10, 2002 Yeah, It's a virus, just not a computer virus. What do they call these? Socially engineered viruses? Same thing as the "help me find my missing child" e-mails. someone else from here was asking about this a few weeks ago. Typically, the first thing I do when I get an e-mail about a virus (and it's usually my mom) I will check www.sarc.com and then send her the link (and everyone else she copied on it) telling them it is a hoax. I think that in the 8 years I've been in the industry, I've seen one, maybe two e-mails that were genuine. The point is, if you have a virus,the first thing you should do is check your defs and make sure thwey are up to date. If not, update them NOW, then run a virus scan. AS for the e-mails, if you really want to help, do the homework first before you blindly forward it along to everyone. P.s The irony of this is my Mom got the same e-mail and deleted the file. She swears the Internet is faster as a resultI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #7 July 10, 2002 >Yeah, It's a virus, just not a computer virus. What do they call these? >Socially engineered viruses? Or a "norwegian virus", like the one I received: Quote We have just sent you the "NORWEGIAN VIRUS." Since we do not have any programming experience and do not know how to actually damage your computer, this virus works on the honor system. Please forward this virus to everyone on your mailing list and then manually delete all of the files on your hard drive. Thank you for your cooperation. Ole and Sven Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #8 July 10, 2002 MUHAHAHA..... I love it :) Kinda reminds me of the joke EXE that went around which did a list of your hard drive then asked if you wantted to Delete all files. When clicking on no, it would look like it deleted all of them anyway...I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #9 July 10, 2002 I am usually skeptical of these email too. but I got it from some one I believe. she typed a message saying siad actually had it. It was 615 am before work so I checked real quick and deleted it. I havent noticed any problems with my computer yet. but I would be surprised if i see one soon I am scheduled for a crash any day now.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fonz 0 #10 July 10, 2002 QuoteI'm just hoping the e-mail isn't a hoax, and is making us delete a file we use. Install this and you'll never have to worry about viruses, worms and hoaxes http://www.freebsd.org or http://www.linux.org Sorry, just couldn't resistAnd five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #11 July 10, 2002 hey fonz, you must think ppl here know about that stuff. wtf was all that crap? youre talking to a layman here...My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #12 July 10, 2002 basically, if you run linux or unix (freebsd is a free unix variant), you won't get viruses because of the way unix works. basically, it isn't as stupid as windoze. it also isn't for neophytes either as it requires and assumes a fair amount of knowledge to get them working in the first place. i like freebsd though, still learning it, but it's kinda cool. "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #13 July 10, 2002 thanks bunky. I was looking at number for 9 straight hours today I did not even want to get in the forums but ...I HAVE TO FEED THE ADDICTION! my eyes are bleeding!(well they feel like it anyway)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fonz 0 #14 July 10, 2002 Quotehey fonz, you must think ppl here know about that stuff. wtf was all that crap? youre talking to a layman here... Hehe. That's why I wrote that I just couldn't resist And five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 July 10, 2002 Oh... linux/unix/whatever can still get viruses, but because 90% of all computers are Windows and 95% of Net users are on windows, why should a Virus writer target that 5% of users that odds are are as smart as the writer and would'nt fall for it anyways. Holes are in every OS and application. Apache.. that powers like 55% of all websites has a major hole in it that unless patched can allow a Code Red style attack on that platform too... Its not just a Windows issue. Hell... even in the BIND there is a flaw that if properly executed on the major DNS servers it would take out the majority of the net.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fonz 0 #16 July 10, 2002 QuoteOh... linux/unix/whatever can still get viruses True. But the damage they can do is much more limited. QuoteHoles are in every OS and application. Yep. But viruses grow too big if they have to carry an exploit with them... Granted, every OS has holes but my point is that UN*X's vulnerability to viruses is much less than Windoze's.And five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #17 July 10, 2002 true, but i was just trying to explain things to a windows user, who , for the most part, don't know or need to know what Apache or BIND or DNS or any other stuff to do what they want/need to do online. like you said, most viruses are targeted at windows for the same reason that most software is written for it, there's simply an exponentially larger installed base to target. to hit a unix system you would have to know some relatively exotic scripts, or c programming, where windows can be had with any number of visual programming and scritping tools, and the script kiddies that write them are by and large not all that smart."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #18 July 10, 2002 QuoteI am usually skeptical of these email too. but I got it from some one I believe. she typed a message saying siad actually had it. It was 615 am before work so I checked real quick and deleted it. I havent noticed any problems with my computer yet. but I would be surprised if i see one soon I am scheduled for a crash any day now. Of course she had it. Everyone with windows has that file, but you're supposed to. It's a java file. It won't kill your machine to not have that file, but some java applets won't run properly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
