Viking 0 #1 July 14, 2002 I feel like such an ass right now. Today i tryed out my new helmet and bummed a pro-trac from a friend who also payed for my jump and gear rental (I barly even know him too) The pro-trac was set for 4500 break off 3500 pull and 2500 pull now you stupid bastard alarm. Well i geuss you could call me a stupid bastard. I was doing my arch like i planed, to see how i fast i could go on my belly (151mph by the way) and i guess the pressence of the dyter made me think i didn't need to look at my wrist mount. I heard the break off alarm go so i started tracking south and then like 3 seconds later i heard the pull alarm go off!! i stopped my track in shock and saw that my alti was now 3000!! I did a fast wave off and pulled. I was in the sadle by 2100 (2300 by the dyter) If i could bend my legs that far back i would have kicked myself in the ass. Also when i got in the plane i was the last one in, so ofcourse i had to move the ladder and then jump in the door. Which wasn't easy with that student gear on. I then had to find my seat and seat belt. By the time i had that shit taken care of the large group in the back (they were doing like a 8-way track dive) were yelling at me to shut the door So i yanked on it and it only moved a little. I braced myself and really put my weight on it and yep you guessed it i slammed the door shut with a LOUD bang. That caused the pilot to stomp the brakes, and the jackass' in the back to burst into laughter. I shot them the bird and turned a couple shades of red. Then when 1500 hit they opened the door to cool everybody off. I am sitting next to the door and dispite having heard in my A license class that if you are sitting where i was sitting that you should unbuckle your seat instantly b/c if your pc were to go flying out the door you would probly get ripped in half and or cause the plane to crash. Craig one of the coolest people i know at the dz pretty much chewed me out when i just sat there for a couple grand looking at the ground roll past. Man i feel like a fucking ant right now. Someone tell me i am not the only one that has fucked up this much on a single dive.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #2 July 14, 2002 You're not the only one. Sounds like you learned two things today - count it as a good day cuz you learned them without getting hurt. Now forget about it, and start thinking about how perfect you're going to be on your next day of jumping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #3 July 14, 2002 Dude, That's nothing. Glad you survived. Learn from it. I have one from today's crew jumps, but I'm too tired to fucking write. Heck, I'm not even sure why I'm on the web! Let's just say my Lightning 143 wasn't quite hooked up right.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #4 July 14, 2002 Lisa! Where were you today??? Shark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmddave 0 #5 July 14, 2002 Like everyone else has said, count yourself lucky that you learned a few important lessons without hurting yourself or anyone else. And since you feel like an "ant" right now, you're much less likely to repeat those mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #6 July 14, 2002 Lisa can i get a hug?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #7 July 14, 2002 QuoteLisa can i get a hug? Sending cyber hug your way right now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites drenaline 0 #8 July 14, 2002 Dude don't feel like an ant. We can make mistakes from time to time (Hey we are human you know, a special breed but human we are). But if you plan to do a RW jump (for a competition practice) and end up doing freeflying instead of the RW sequence then you can feel like an ant (still trying to figure out what I was thinking that day). HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #9 July 14, 2002 I was visiting a Tx Dz-- after my third jump in the porter someone pulled me aside and said "you cant grab the door when your getting in the plane use the bar." I said "if you saw me use the door thats cool I didnt notice I was. thanks, I will try to keep that in mind" next jump: I get in the porter didnt use the door(at that piont I knew I didnt before either) so I was like hmm no big deal she expressed something she saw and it didnt happen this time cool. so I try to get my self situated just as we start taxiing. there it is.. Im holding the door so I can shift my position a bit. the S&ta says "HEY, didnt ***** talk to you about that!!" so of course I feel like a damn fool and I apologized. now its not a big problem if the door opens when taxiing(it wasnt closed yet) but If i didnt break that habit right then and there i couldve created some major problems later. they were all REALLY COOL about it. but that initial "damn I feel like an asshole" feeling made it stick out and I wont forget it anytime soon! I jumped there for 4 more weeks there was no big deal about it. there are a few "damn I feel like an idiot" stories we all have (I think) that was one of mine! learn from it and move on My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites drenaline 0 #10 July 14, 2002 Quote"HEY, didnt ***** talk to you about that!!" mmmm... nope, must of been my twin brother. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #11 July 14, 2002 that woulda worked if i didnt tell them that I hadda kill him! he was a bastard..always doing things like me. dressing like me, talking like me, acting like me, LOOKING like me. that alone enuff to kill anyone!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #12 July 14, 2002 it's good to be self critical, but not to the point where your demeaning yourself. learn from the negative...focus on the positive. --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #13 July 14, 2002 You call that !@#$ing up? Nah! !@#$#ing up is when you tear up canopies, wreck airplanes or break bones. Take it easy on yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tigra 0 #14 July 14, 2002 Virtual hug coming your way, Viking. We've all been there! Shit happens, you lived. You aren't the first person to accidently slam the door, or lose track of altitude and you won't be the last! Just remember that those "skygods" on the plane were newbies once too! (even if they don't seem to remember it!) blue ones! maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #15 July 14, 2002 Dude, don't worry about it. So you opened under 3k, no big deal, if it was under 1.5k, THEN you would have really fucked up. The rest of that stuff, no worries, it happens.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #16 July 14, 2002 No blood, No foul. Damage to people: NO Damage to equipment: NO Violation of rules and regs: NO (well, 3000 foot pull on an A license) Important lesson learned without parting with serious time or cash: YES Dude, your ego-money grows back. It's even important for it to be trimmed back from time to time to keep you healthy. My AFF instructor and her husband, also an AFF instructor, constantly "informed" me of errors in both procedure and style that I was making over the last year and a half. I could barely regrow the ego-money before it was getting trimmed off by some goofiness on my part. Last night we went out to dinner and Guiness (Hmmmm Guiness), and while I will never catch up to their jump numbers since they are full-time pros, I am accepted as a skydiver by them. Still pretty new, but not a newbie, not a student. When they stop criticizing you, they have given up on you as too worthless and stupid to bother with. As long as they are talking to you about getting better, they still care. When they reach past you to adjust the door, and nobody has anything to say to you, then worry. Yesterday I managed to crash into a national freefly champ during a head-down coaching jump. This true skygod could not remember the last time a student had managed to do that. I listened carefully to him during debrief about how I got so much drive, and didn't repeat the mistake. Small mistakes corrected prevent uncorrectable big mistakes. I am grabbing the top of your head and shaking you gently. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gale 0 #17 July 14, 2002 Just to share with the stories of stupidity, here's one of mine from yesterday: I'm trying to learn to track and this was my second attempt. Last time I jumped with a coach and he had me track 90 degress to the wind line so I didn't get too far away from the field (5 seconds one way, 180, 5 seconds the other, repeat). Well this time, there was a two-way getting out before me and they had some trouble getting out of the plane because the door kept falling down, so the spot was going to be a little long. So I give them some seperation and then exit. Only I think to myself, seeing as the spot was long, and the field is OVER THERE I think I'll just try tracking to it. Well dumb me forgot to consider the jumpers ahead of me, I COULD HAVE TRACKED RIGHT INTO THEIR OPENING CANOPIES! Luckily that didn't happen, the jumper who came out after me just took me aside and reminded me why it's important to track 90 degrees to the wind line. I won't do that again, and feel lucky nothing bad happened. And yes, I felt stupid. GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #18 July 14, 2002 QuoteYou call that !@#$ing up? Nah! !@#$#ing up is when you tear up canopies, wreck airplanes or break bones. Take it easy on yourself. i don't shred canopies i shred jump suits I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloudseeker2001 0 #19 July 14, 2002 does not sound that bad Other than loosing altitude awareness and rely too much on the pro-track. as for the door, it sounds like your were victimized, you did right by shooting them the finger-fuck'em! LOL! last month a casa came to the DZ and i was the only solo behind a 30 way........well, a few of the gods who were sitting on the floor made it a big deal to insure i understood to give them plenty of time at the door. they also racked their brains trying to nail me for anything else they could think of(does the pilot know you are solo, does he know how high you are pulling and a few others including how i double secured my chest strap). everyone there seemed to get a kick out of jacking with me. i had to wonder if i looked that green since i have been skydiving for 2 years. don't sweat it. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dove 0 #20 July 15, 2002 Hey, I'm just curious.... sounds like you were doing a solo. Who did you track away from at breakoff? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #21 July 15, 2002 Yes i was doing a solo (only thing i can do right now) And i tracked b/c thats what i was tought to do and I needed to work on it anyway.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #22 July 15, 2002 On solos odds are you are going to be sliding anyways so tracking 90 to the flight line is the only way to do it. On my last 25 solos or so I know I'm getting in to a bad habit of this but since I'm last out... I don't even bother tracking or waving.... but I only do this since I'm last out. Talk to your JM's about if they think you need to do it on solos.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #23 July 15, 2002 i was first outI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rhonda66 0 #24 July 15, 2002 hehe - definitely do not worry about it - you call that screwing up? And you already know you shouldn't give a crap about what anyone else thinks of you as long as you stay safe and hopefully learn from your mistakes. Some jerk at a DZ other than my home, and one I don't normally jump at, told me to get the pilot's attention as if there was some big emergency - so me and another dumbass across from me urgently try to get the pilot's attention - the pilot turns around and this guy, an instructor too, starts to lick his nipple like he is just so f'n funny. The pilot retaliates by pushing the Otter into a dive and everyone on the plane gets pissed at me and the other guy for bugging the pilot!!! Thanks a lot buddy! On the next jump, I'm starting to feel like the odd man out now and, distracted, I forget to properly fasten my chest strap and someone on the plane fortunately notices so I didn't die that day... I don't get that thing about unbuckling your seat belt if the door is open - shouldn't everyone do it and not just the guy by the door? I don't even think we do that at my DZ (or at least you don't get chewed out if you decide to leave your belt on) - it's more important to make sure that your PC is properly stowed and not vulnerable because it's still going to suck mighty bad for you and everyone on board the plane if your PC comes out in flight with the door open, whether your belt is on or not...I make it a habit of holding my PC handle whenever the door is open so I know it's stowed nicely and not going anywhere. Anyway, if "Craig" is so cool, why didn't he point it out earlier instead of chewing you out later about it? I think we all have a responsibility to teach less experiences jumpers because it is so easy to forget things when your mind is crammed with so many thoughts at once - but you don't teach by chewing someone else out. 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Shark 0 #3 July 14, 2002 Dude, That's nothing. Glad you survived. Learn from it. I have one from today's crew jumps, but I'm too tired to fucking write. Heck, I'm not even sure why I'm on the web! Let's just say my Lightning 143 wasn't quite hooked up right.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #4 July 14, 2002 Lisa! Where were you today??? Shark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmddave 0 #5 July 14, 2002 Like everyone else has said, count yourself lucky that you learned a few important lessons without hurting yourself or anyone else. And since you feel like an "ant" right now, you're much less likely to repeat those mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #6 July 14, 2002 Lisa can i get a hug?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 July 14, 2002 QuoteLisa can i get a hug? Sending cyber hug your way right now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites drenaline 0 #8 July 14, 2002 Dude don't feel like an ant. We can make mistakes from time to time (Hey we are human you know, a special breed but human we are). But if you plan to do a RW jump (for a competition practice) and end up doing freeflying instead of the RW sequence then you can feel like an ant (still trying to figure out what I was thinking that day). HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #9 July 14, 2002 I was visiting a Tx Dz-- after my third jump in the porter someone pulled me aside and said "you cant grab the door when your getting in the plane use the bar." I said "if you saw me use the door thats cool I didnt notice I was. thanks, I will try to keep that in mind" next jump: I get in the porter didnt use the door(at that piont I knew I didnt before either) so I was like hmm no big deal she expressed something she saw and it didnt happen this time cool. so I try to get my self situated just as we start taxiing. there it is.. Im holding the door so I can shift my position a bit. the S&ta says "HEY, didnt ***** talk to you about that!!" so of course I feel like a damn fool and I apologized. now its not a big problem if the door opens when taxiing(it wasnt closed yet) but If i didnt break that habit right then and there i couldve created some major problems later. they were all REALLY COOL about it. but that initial "damn I feel like an asshole" feeling made it stick out and I wont forget it anytime soon! I jumped there for 4 more weeks there was no big deal about it. there are a few "damn I feel like an idiot" stories we all have (I think) that was one of mine! learn from it and move on My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites drenaline 0 #10 July 14, 2002 Quote"HEY, didnt ***** talk to you about that!!" mmmm... nope, must of been my twin brother. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #11 July 14, 2002 that woulda worked if i didnt tell them that I hadda kill him! he was a bastard..always doing things like me. dressing like me, talking like me, acting like me, LOOKING like me. that alone enuff to kill anyone!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #12 July 14, 2002 it's good to be self critical, but not to the point where your demeaning yourself. learn from the negative...focus on the positive. --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #13 July 14, 2002 You call that !@#$ing up? Nah! !@#$#ing up is when you tear up canopies, wreck airplanes or break bones. Take it easy on yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tigra 0 #14 July 14, 2002 Virtual hug coming your way, Viking. We've all been there! Shit happens, you lived. You aren't the first person to accidently slam the door, or lose track of altitude and you won't be the last! Just remember that those "skygods" on the plane were newbies once too! (even if they don't seem to remember it!) blue ones! maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #15 July 14, 2002 Dude, don't worry about it. So you opened under 3k, no big deal, if it was under 1.5k, THEN you would have really fucked up. The rest of that stuff, no worries, it happens.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #16 July 14, 2002 No blood, No foul. Damage to people: NO Damage to equipment: NO Violation of rules and regs: NO (well, 3000 foot pull on an A license) Important lesson learned without parting with serious time or cash: YES Dude, your ego-money grows back. It's even important for it to be trimmed back from time to time to keep you healthy. My AFF instructor and her husband, also an AFF instructor, constantly "informed" me of errors in both procedure and style that I was making over the last year and a half. I could barely regrow the ego-money before it was getting trimmed off by some goofiness on my part. Last night we went out to dinner and Guiness (Hmmmm Guiness), and while I will never catch up to their jump numbers since they are full-time pros, I am accepted as a skydiver by them. Still pretty new, but not a newbie, not a student. When they stop criticizing you, they have given up on you as too worthless and stupid to bother with. As long as they are talking to you about getting better, they still care. When they reach past you to adjust the door, and nobody has anything to say to you, then worry. Yesterday I managed to crash into a national freefly champ during a head-down coaching jump. This true skygod could not remember the last time a student had managed to do that. I listened carefully to him during debrief about how I got so much drive, and didn't repeat the mistake. Small mistakes corrected prevent uncorrectable big mistakes. I am grabbing the top of your head and shaking you gently. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gale 0 #17 July 14, 2002 Just to share with the stories of stupidity, here's one of mine from yesterday: I'm trying to learn to track and this was my second attempt. Last time I jumped with a coach and he had me track 90 degress to the wind line so I didn't get too far away from the field (5 seconds one way, 180, 5 seconds the other, repeat). Well this time, there was a two-way getting out before me and they had some trouble getting out of the plane because the door kept falling down, so the spot was going to be a little long. So I give them some seperation and then exit. Only I think to myself, seeing as the spot was long, and the field is OVER THERE I think I'll just try tracking to it. Well dumb me forgot to consider the jumpers ahead of me, I COULD HAVE TRACKED RIGHT INTO THEIR OPENING CANOPIES! Luckily that didn't happen, the jumper who came out after me just took me aside and reminded me why it's important to track 90 degrees to the wind line. I won't do that again, and feel lucky nothing bad happened. And yes, I felt stupid. GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #18 July 14, 2002 QuoteYou call that !@#$ing up? Nah! !@#$#ing up is when you tear up canopies, wreck airplanes or break bones. Take it easy on yourself. i don't shred canopies i shred jump suits I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloudseeker2001 0 #19 July 14, 2002 does not sound that bad Other than loosing altitude awareness and rely too much on the pro-track. as for the door, it sounds like your were victimized, you did right by shooting them the finger-fuck'em! LOL! last month a casa came to the DZ and i was the only solo behind a 30 way........well, a few of the gods who were sitting on the floor made it a big deal to insure i understood to give them plenty of time at the door. they also racked their brains trying to nail me for anything else they could think of(does the pilot know you are solo, does he know how high you are pulling and a few others including how i double secured my chest strap). everyone there seemed to get a kick out of jacking with me. i had to wonder if i looked that green since i have been skydiving for 2 years. don't sweat it. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dove 0 #20 July 15, 2002 Hey, I'm just curious.... sounds like you were doing a solo. Who did you track away from at breakoff? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #21 July 15, 2002 Yes i was doing a solo (only thing i can do right now) And i tracked b/c thats what i was tought to do and I needed to work on it anyway.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #22 July 15, 2002 On solos odds are you are going to be sliding anyways so tracking 90 to the flight line is the only way to do it. On my last 25 solos or so I know I'm getting in to a bad habit of this but since I'm last out... I don't even bother tracking or waving.... but I only do this since I'm last out. Talk to your JM's about if they think you need to do it on solos.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #23 July 15, 2002 i was first outI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rhonda66 0 #24 July 15, 2002 hehe - definitely do not worry about it - you call that screwing up? And you already know you shouldn't give a crap about what anyone else thinks of you as long as you stay safe and hopefully learn from your mistakes. Some jerk at a DZ other than my home, and one I don't normally jump at, told me to get the pilot's attention as if there was some big emergency - so me and another dumbass across from me urgently try to get the pilot's attention - the pilot turns around and this guy, an instructor too, starts to lick his nipple like he is just so f'n funny. The pilot retaliates by pushing the Otter into a dive and everyone on the plane gets pissed at me and the other guy for bugging the pilot!!! Thanks a lot buddy! On the next jump, I'm starting to feel like the odd man out now and, distracted, I forget to properly fasten my chest strap and someone on the plane fortunately notices so I didn't die that day... I don't get that thing about unbuckling your seat belt if the door is open - shouldn't everyone do it and not just the guy by the door? I don't even think we do that at my DZ (or at least you don't get chewed out if you decide to leave your belt on) - it's more important to make sure that your PC is properly stowed and not vulnerable because it's still going to suck mighty bad for you and everyone on board the plane if your PC comes out in flight with the door open, whether your belt is on or not...I make it a habit of holding my PC handle whenever the door is open so I know it's stowed nicely and not going anywhere. Anyway, if "Craig" is so cool, why didn't he point it out earlier instead of chewing you out later about it? I think we all have a responsibility to teach less experiences jumpers because it is so easy to forget things when your mind is crammed with so many thoughts at once - but you don't teach by chewing someone else out. Shit happens - just deal with it and move right on...Rhonda PP ASEL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #25 July 15, 2002 Quote Anyway, if "Craig" is so cool, why didn't he point it out earlier instead of chewing you out later about it? at the time he was busy with a tandem student.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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drenaline 0 #8 July 14, 2002 Dude don't feel like an ant. We can make mistakes from time to time (Hey we are human you know, a special breed but human we are). But if you plan to do a RW jump (for a competition practice) and end up doing freeflying instead of the RW sequence then you can feel like an ant (still trying to figure out what I was thinking that day). HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #9 July 14, 2002 I was visiting a Tx Dz-- after my third jump in the porter someone pulled me aside and said "you cant grab the door when your getting in the plane use the bar." I said "if you saw me use the door thats cool I didnt notice I was. thanks, I will try to keep that in mind" next jump: I get in the porter didnt use the door(at that piont I knew I didnt before either) so I was like hmm no big deal she expressed something she saw and it didnt happen this time cool. so I try to get my self situated just as we start taxiing. there it is.. Im holding the door so I can shift my position a bit. the S&ta says "HEY, didnt ***** talk to you about that!!" so of course I feel like a damn fool and I apologized. now its not a big problem if the door opens when taxiing(it wasnt closed yet) but If i didnt break that habit right then and there i couldve created some major problems later. they were all REALLY COOL about it. but that initial "damn I feel like an asshole" feeling made it stick out and I wont forget it anytime soon! I jumped there for 4 more weeks there was no big deal about it. there are a few "damn I feel like an idiot" stories we all have (I think) that was one of mine! learn from it and move on My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #10 July 14, 2002 Quote"HEY, didnt ***** talk to you about that!!" mmmm... nope, must of been my twin brother. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #11 July 14, 2002 that woulda worked if i didnt tell them that I hadda kill him! he was a bastard..always doing things like me. dressing like me, talking like me, acting like me, LOOKING like me. that alone enuff to kill anyone!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #12 July 14, 2002 it's good to be self critical, but not to the point where your demeaning yourself. learn from the negative...focus on the positive. --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #13 July 14, 2002 You call that !@#$ing up? Nah! !@#$#ing up is when you tear up canopies, wreck airplanes or break bones. Take it easy on yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #14 July 14, 2002 Virtual hug coming your way, Viking. We've all been there! Shit happens, you lived. You aren't the first person to accidently slam the door, or lose track of altitude and you won't be the last! Just remember that those "skygods" on the plane were newbies once too! (even if they don't seem to remember it!) blue ones! maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 July 14, 2002 Dude, don't worry about it. So you opened under 3k, no big deal, if it was under 1.5k, THEN you would have really fucked up. The rest of that stuff, no worries, it happens.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #16 July 14, 2002 No blood, No foul. Damage to people: NO Damage to equipment: NO Violation of rules and regs: NO (well, 3000 foot pull on an A license) Important lesson learned without parting with serious time or cash: YES Dude, your ego-money grows back. It's even important for it to be trimmed back from time to time to keep you healthy. My AFF instructor and her husband, also an AFF instructor, constantly "informed" me of errors in both procedure and style that I was making over the last year and a half. I could barely regrow the ego-money before it was getting trimmed off by some goofiness on my part. Last night we went out to dinner and Guiness (Hmmmm Guiness), and while I will never catch up to their jump numbers since they are full-time pros, I am accepted as a skydiver by them. Still pretty new, but not a newbie, not a student. When they stop criticizing you, they have given up on you as too worthless and stupid to bother with. As long as they are talking to you about getting better, they still care. When they reach past you to adjust the door, and nobody has anything to say to you, then worry. Yesterday I managed to crash into a national freefly champ during a head-down coaching jump. This true skygod could not remember the last time a student had managed to do that. I listened carefully to him during debrief about how I got so much drive, and didn't repeat the mistake. Small mistakes corrected prevent uncorrectable big mistakes. I am grabbing the top of your head and shaking you gently. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gale 0 #17 July 14, 2002 Just to share with the stories of stupidity, here's one of mine from yesterday: I'm trying to learn to track and this was my second attempt. Last time I jumped with a coach and he had me track 90 degress to the wind line so I didn't get too far away from the field (5 seconds one way, 180, 5 seconds the other, repeat). Well this time, there was a two-way getting out before me and they had some trouble getting out of the plane because the door kept falling down, so the spot was going to be a little long. So I give them some seperation and then exit. Only I think to myself, seeing as the spot was long, and the field is OVER THERE I think I'll just try tracking to it. Well dumb me forgot to consider the jumpers ahead of me, I COULD HAVE TRACKED RIGHT INTO THEIR OPENING CANOPIES! Luckily that didn't happen, the jumper who came out after me just took me aside and reminded me why it's important to track 90 degrees to the wind line. I won't do that again, and feel lucky nothing bad happened. And yes, I felt stupid. GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #18 July 14, 2002 QuoteYou call that !@#$ing up? Nah! !@#$#ing up is when you tear up canopies, wreck airplanes or break bones. Take it easy on yourself. i don't shred canopies i shred jump suits I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #19 July 14, 2002 does not sound that bad Other than loosing altitude awareness and rely too much on the pro-track. as for the door, it sounds like your were victimized, you did right by shooting them the finger-fuck'em! LOL! last month a casa came to the DZ and i was the only solo behind a 30 way........well, a few of the gods who were sitting on the floor made it a big deal to insure i understood to give them plenty of time at the door. they also racked their brains trying to nail me for anything else they could think of(does the pilot know you are solo, does he know how high you are pulling and a few others including how i double secured my chest strap). everyone there seemed to get a kick out of jacking with me. i had to wonder if i looked that green since i have been skydiving for 2 years. don't sweat it. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dove 0 #20 July 15, 2002 Hey, I'm just curious.... sounds like you were doing a solo. Who did you track away from at breakoff? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #21 July 15, 2002 Yes i was doing a solo (only thing i can do right now) And i tracked b/c thats what i was tought to do and I needed to work on it anyway.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #22 July 15, 2002 On solos odds are you are going to be sliding anyways so tracking 90 to the flight line is the only way to do it. On my last 25 solos or so I know I'm getting in to a bad habit of this but since I'm last out... I don't even bother tracking or waving.... but I only do this since I'm last out. Talk to your JM's about if they think you need to do it on solos.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #23 July 15, 2002 i was first outI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhonda66 0 #24 July 15, 2002 hehe - definitely do not worry about it - you call that screwing up? And you already know you shouldn't give a crap about what anyone else thinks of you as long as you stay safe and hopefully learn from your mistakes. Some jerk at a DZ other than my home, and one I don't normally jump at, told me to get the pilot's attention as if there was some big emergency - so me and another dumbass across from me urgently try to get the pilot's attention - the pilot turns around and this guy, an instructor too, starts to lick his nipple like he is just so f'n funny. The pilot retaliates by pushing the Otter into a dive and everyone on the plane gets pissed at me and the other guy for bugging the pilot!!! Thanks a lot buddy! On the next jump, I'm starting to feel like the odd man out now and, distracted, I forget to properly fasten my chest strap and someone on the plane fortunately notices so I didn't die that day... I don't get that thing about unbuckling your seat belt if the door is open - shouldn't everyone do it and not just the guy by the door? I don't even think we do that at my DZ (or at least you don't get chewed out if you decide to leave your belt on) - it's more important to make sure that your PC is properly stowed and not vulnerable because it's still going to suck mighty bad for you and everyone on board the plane if your PC comes out in flight with the door open, whether your belt is on or not...I make it a habit of holding my PC handle whenever the door is open so I know it's stowed nicely and not going anywhere. Anyway, if "Craig" is so cool, why didn't he point it out earlier instead of chewing you out later about it? I think we all have a responsibility to teach less experiences jumpers because it is so easy to forget things when your mind is crammed with so many thoughts at once - but you don't teach by chewing someone else out. Shit happens - just deal with it and move right on...Rhonda PP ASEL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #25 July 15, 2002 Quote Anyway, if "Craig" is so cool, why didn't he point it out earlier instead of chewing you out later about it? at the time he was busy with a tandem student.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
