quade 4 #26 July 17, 2002 We're not talking about skydiving gear sales. We're talking about Mountain Dew, Levi's and other mainstream consumer products. If you were the media buyer for Coke, would you want to purchase an ad for a program being watched by an audience of about 35,000 skydivers or 1,000,000 skateboarders?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #27 July 17, 2002 Quote If you were the media buyer for Coke, would you want to purchase an ad for a program being watched by an audience of about 35,000 skydivers or 1,000,000 skateboarders? If I was the media buyer for Coke... well, guess what it would be -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SatchFan 0 #28 July 17, 2002 I agree. It amazes me what people consider extreme sports. Snowboarding?? Since when was playing in the snow extreme? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #29 July 17, 2002 Since there are more injuries and deaths due to snowboarding then skydiving.... I feel a lot safer under canopy then I do on my board in powder. Hitting a pipe and launching a flip takes a hell of a lot more skill and talent then doind a clear and pull. I watched a guy break his legs landing a Misty Flip that every one thought was perfect...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenhawk420 0 #30 July 17, 2002 coz ours aint the best spectator sport (even though id disagree) onlyway to enjoy it is to get of your arse and do it. Didn't someone mention that pond swooping was being thought about for x-games or was that just the best "spectator" discipline? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freebird 0 #31 July 17, 2002 I think pond swooping should be considered....I think the regular public ( especially kids) woul love it....mabe it would make the sport of parachuting more popular more people may want to check out our amazing sport and jump too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #32 July 17, 2002 >think the regular public ( especially kids) woul love it.... Right.... they would love it up until the point where you watch some one hook low and break major bones or die right there in front of them. The last falitlity was a water landing, do we really need to be encouraging every 75 jump wonder that the pond is the only place that skydivers land? X-Games and Gravity Games has lead to a huge increase in the number of skaters and boarders. The increase in people doing it has also lead to more injuries. The problem with skydiving is there is such a fine line between a mistake that will cause injury and one that cases death that the death rate would too high to allow the FAA to turn a blind eye to it. The public needs to just ignore our sport the majority of the time and let us enjoy it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SatchFan 0 #33 July 17, 2002 There are more injuries and deaths in snowboarding because a lot more people snowboard than skydive. If they were the same I think skydiving would win out on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #34 July 17, 2002 > If they were the same I think skydiving would win out on this one. I'm lost here... what would skydiving win out on? Number of deaths? Is that something that we really need to brag about? "We kill more people skydiving every year then you do boarding" I'm not sure but I'm thinking there is no way there are more then 30-40 snowboarders dying in the US every year. If you increase the number of jumpers in the US to at least 100000 like there are boarders... the Fatilites would be at a rate of 100-150 a year....* *Based on math that I threw together on my calculator.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #35 July 17, 2002 Quote coz ours aint the best spectator sport (even though id disagree) onlyway to enjoy it is to get of your arse and do it. Quote Freeflying could be part of the x-games and very audience-friendly with JumboTron screens. Just have the camera man hooked up (wirelessly of courseAny thoughts? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #36 July 17, 2002 They tried this for 2 years and got rid of it. They did the exact thing that you said and the people on the ground could care lessYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #37 July 17, 2002 Freeflying, RW, and Freestyle should be part of the Olympics. Just leave the skydiving out of it. Just have a high quality wind tunnel be part of the Olympic grounds. That would be better all around. Judges would be able to get multiple angles. The camera angles would always be the same (no blaming it on a screwed up camera flyer). Plus it would present a more static environment so that environmental issues wouldn't be as big of a concern ("The sun was in my eyes, it's not fair that I had to go during sunset"), because everything in the tunnel would be equal. This way they would also be able to make sure that every flyer had the exact same amount of time to do their routine, and no worries of low pulls. They don't hold the swimming contests in rivers and oceans, they build them a special facility in order to keep the playing field as level as possible. They could just do the same for the "flying" competitions. Am I the first person to suggest this? Seems like it would be a great way to get some of the skydiving discipline in the olympics without the issues of possible fatalities. Plus, after a few Olympics that would be that many more wind tunnels that are scattered around, which can't be bad for us. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #38 July 17, 2002 The only problem that I can see with this idea (and it's not entirely a bad one!) is that in order for a sport to be considered for the Olympics, it has to be played in (I think) at least seven countries. while this can easily be said of Skydiving, I don't think you can say the same for Tunnel-flying.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #39 July 17, 2002 Quote in order for a sport to be considered for the Olympics, it has to be played in (I think) at least seven countries. Well they could just call it a freefall event, and the wind tunnel would just be how they make it easier and more standard to judge. On the other hand I bet there are wind tunnels in at least 7 different countries. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #40 July 17, 2002 Yeah, but I don't think there are even a couple of wind tunnels (yet) that can support full on freefly.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #41 July 17, 2002 In response to Wind Tunnel Flying as an Olympic event Quote ...In order for a sport to be considered for the Olympics, it has to be played in (I think) at least seven countries. while this can easily be said of Skydiving, I don't think you can say the same for Tunnel-flying. check this http://www.primeline.com/~highwind/whp_vwt_list1.html out!!! Canada, USA, Japan, New-Zealand, Malaysia, France, Switzerland, Australia, Germany, Egypt, Russia, Israel, Spain, Sweedan, Argentina and Venezuela all have wind-tunnels.... Now all we have to do people is come up with one or two wind tunnel games or disciplines that the word would all like to compete in and we have ourselves an Olympi event!!! My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #42 July 17, 2002 Interesting website, but few of these would actually qualify as wind tunnels capable of supporting RW, let alone vRW. Still, it's an interesting idea.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #43 July 17, 2002 Hey, if Curling is an Olympic sport, then why not Skydiving, right? --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #44 July 17, 2002 Ok... most those tunnels are the old mobil tunnels that are nothing more then a DC-3 Prop mounted on a diesel engine with netting over it. To fly them you have to have a ballon suit to even get up on your belly, freefly is out of the question. The only tunnels that can support the type of flying you are thinking of is the SkyVenture on in FL, a few military tunnels and the ones under construction at Perris and etc.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #45 July 17, 2002 Quote The only tunnels that can support the type of flying you are thinking of is the SkyVenture on in FL, a few military tunnels and the ones under construction at Perris and etc. Sort of missing my point, I think. The teams can train by skydiving, should they so choose. It's just the competition that has to be in a tunnel. It would still be a freefall competition, not specifically a windtunnel one. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #46 July 17, 2002 >It's just the competition that has to be in a tunnel. That means that all 7 of the primary counties have to have access to the same equipment. Also its an unwritten rule that all the olympic sports do not require anything that requres electricty or machinery to do.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #47 July 17, 2002 >Also its an unwritten rule that all the olympic sports do not require >anything that requres electricty or machinery to do. Last time I checked, ice rinks and pools require quite a bit of both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #48 July 17, 2002 Quote not require anything that requres electricty or machinery to do What about the shooting events, that requires a machine, a rifle.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #49 July 17, 2002 But can you not ice skate out doors in the winter? They did curling indoors and out doors at Salt Lake this year. The Triatalon is usually done in a river or lake near the site. Swimming could be done in a lake too if needed. Tunnel flying could'nt be done out side of a tunnel...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #50 July 18, 2002 Quote But can you not ice skate out doors in the winter? Can you not freefall outdoors too? Quote Tunnel flying could'nt be done out side of a tunnel... It wouldn't be a "tunnel flying" event, it would be a freefall one. The tunnel would just be the Olympic facility for it. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites