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I wonder what the penalty would be if the victim had been a girl....



These are not a very tolerant people... my guess is, if it was a girl, it would not be rape. Then she would be thrown off the cliff for not giving consent... Or having provoked him...

"Under Iran's Islamic law, applied since the 1979 revolution, pederasty, homosexuality and adultery are among a long list of crimes punishable by death."



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I wonder what the penalty would be if the victim had been a girl....

I would like to think that the same punishment would be used. Unfortunately in a male driven society such as this one I doubted it would be the case:|
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All I got is one thing to say.........PLF



Except the article said that if the guy survives being thrown off the cliff, then they'll hang him. Shhesssh.... at least in the States he'd have been covered under Double Jeopardy
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All I got is one thing to say.........PLF



Except the article said that if the guy survives being thrown off the cliff, then they'll hang him. Shhesssh.... at least in the States he'd have been covered under Double Jeopardy



Not quite so true.... just because you survive an execution does not mean that you are off the hook in the U.S. There was a guy quite a few years back that lived through the electric chair because of a short, so they let him heal, fixed the generators, and put him back in it and killed him.
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Notice that the crime isn't rape or murder. The crime is homosexuality. The punishment would be the same if it were consensual sex. Except then both of them would be executed.



Actually, the article starts, "An Iranian man, convicted for raping and killing his 16-year-old nephew, will be executed..."

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Actually, I'm glad we don't do such crazy things in the west. I wish we would abolish the death penalty all together.
oh come on Clay , dont you think some of these fukrs deserve to die... I read one of the Motivational posters... "it could be that youre only purpose in life is to serve as an example to others.(or was it a warning to others... I 4get but it was the only where the ship was sinking!)
I wonder what the penalty would be if the victim had been a girl....

Unfortunately I think the heat has gotten to them over there. I wold guess it would some how be the womans fault. ( twisted freaks)

at least in the States he'd have been covered under Double Jeopardy
thats really fukn hysterical, lummy

remenber that, my dad was pissed over that, he thought that they should have just shot him. instead of spending the money to let him heal up.[shrug

well you wouldnt waht the guy to get an infection would ya? we're twisted too just in a different direction then the Iranians
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I wish we would abolish the death penalty all together. [unsure]



I waffle on my stance of the death penalty from time to time, however....
in light of the recent abduction, and murder of Samantha Runnion (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/19/girl.abducted/index.html), I currently think that the 25 to 40 year old male suspect who did this deserves worse than what the Iranians are going to do to this other chap.
I'm no physcologist, but I don't believe that there is any 'rehabilitation' for a mind that is so depraved as to lie to a little girl, saying that he needed help finding his puppy, for the sole intent of dragging her away, doing no telling what else, and then killing her.
By taking away the life of a child, I personally feel that he has 'signed a release form', waiving any rights he has to the rest of his life.
Maybe that's just me....:S (I will now duck to avoid the rotten fruit and vegetables that will possibly be tossed at me).

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By taking away the life of a child, I personally feel that he has 'signed a release form', waiving any rights he has to the rest of his life.



"look to the children"
If someone is convicted of murder, the Death penalty is questionable... After all, killing is nature... I'm not defending murder but all creatures on earth kill there own inherently at one point or another which is why people question themselves "A life for a life?"... "Does killing the killer not make us just like him/her???" But when someone goes and destroys a CHILD, things are different. I am a peace-lovig pacifist who would not think twice about throwing the switch for this guy...

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Maybe that's just me....:S (I will now duck to avoid the rotten fruit and vegetables that will possibly be tossed at me).


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I am another one of those people who isn't too sure about whether the death penalty is good or not. However, I do believe that if you are going to have the death penalty, you should do it right. None of this nice easy lethal injection or quick electrocution crap. I say you stone the son of a bitch in a public square. This way it not only becomes a fitting punishment, in that it is painful and long suffering, but also a good deterrent. As an example from my own life, growing up in Indonesia I was at the mall once with some friends of mine. We saw some security guards dragging a guy out of a store. We asked someone what had happened, they said that the guy was caught shoplifting. We then watched as the guards dragged the guy to the middle of the mall and beat the CRAP out of him. Quite a bit brutal but you can bet your ass I never shoplifted again, in Indonesia.
Of course this would also make judges, juries and maybe even lawyers more hesitant to administer the death penalty as they would know that the guy is really going to suffer and therefore it should not be handed out lightly, which hopefully it isn't now anyway.

Anyway, that's just my $0.02 based on one little life experience that I had. Take it as you will.

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I'm against the death penalty. It's a fact that it does not deter crime. It's a fact that innocent people have been put to death. And it's a fact that a death penalty trial costs taxpayers more money than housing a criminal in prison for life.

I have no moral objection to killing a rapist or murderer, but for the reasons above I say just put them in jail for life.

And regarding this area of the world and their forms of punishment. A group of village elders in Pakistan ordered the gang rape a young girl. This was ordered as punishment for her brother who was caught socializing with a girl from a higher caste.

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And it's a fact that a death penalty trial costs taxpayers more money than housing a criminal in prison for life.

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Huh???
I've hear this before but it is a non-issue... The point behind the ever popular "capital punishment or no?" debate has never been to find the most economically sound way to deal with criminals... It's to determine what to do with them. Plain and simple.

There are also numerous references made to the fact that capital punishment does not deter crime. Well this is altogether true but again does not apply to the "capital punishment or no" argument. The validity of this fact based on the finding that criminals of this type do not consider the consequenses of there actions... Thus, one could also say, don't put them in prison at all, this does not deter the crime!!!

I do not think all murder should be punishable by death. But someone who takes a life without a second thought.... or remorse... or the ability to change... well just should not have the right to exist and be catered by our penal systems.

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