cyberskydive 0 #1 July 19, 2002 ok, so maybe one day I'll actually come here and make a skydiving related post, but not right now.....heres the dealio.... I got squid to work btw, but I dont want to use a proxy anymore I'm using iptables to masquerade ip's, which works really well on win 98 now, no problems there. the problem comes when I try to configure a windows xp box on the local domain. All DNS entries are set(on redhat) and everything works well on 98. I have the ip's listed in the network settings(on xp), along with the dns servers, default gateway, etc. When I go to the system settings and try to add the xp computer to the domain, I get the error "the domain controller for the domain could not be contacted" it's almost like its looking for another windows box running the dns, but my dns is on redhat, I even unchecked "client for microsoft networks" everythings setup just like the 98 box that works, on xp it just wont configure to the local domain, but connecting through the redhat box as a proxy works fine. how can I get my xp box(es) to configure to the local domain, I gotta be missing something.........arghh, keep trying-lol-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fonz 0 #2 July 19, 2002 So wonderful to see that Microsoft is capable of keeping its own products compatible with each other And five hundred entirely naked women dropped out of the sky on parachutes. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #3 July 19, 2002 ok, it really helps out alot when you turn OFF the firewall on the xp host computer-lmfao but......the xp box still wont configure to the local domain.......... NOTE: I think the "send e-mail notification on reply" box here on dz.com should be UNCHECKED by default-lol-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #4 July 19, 2002 i've recently bought a new CPU for my office, it has windows XP on it as well. i have run accross a number of programs that win98, 98 second addition, windows ME, etc...will support, but XP will not. any new software you buy, read the system requirements to insure it's XP compatible.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #5 July 19, 2002 QuoteNOTE: I think the "send e-mail notification on reply" box here on dz.com should be UNCHECKED by default-lol You can change that by going to Edit Profile - User Profile, then select "No" for Send private message notification via e-mail --and-- Send reply notification checked by default: -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #6 July 19, 2002 thats really really good advice man, but unfortunately it doesnt apply to my situation. but I could be wrong, we are talking about tcp/ip networking here, with a flavor of one of the most widely used and supported OS's in the world......ol bil wouldnt go there - i don;t think-lol hey did you get my hosting related email rich? Gona be at waller this weekend? cyber..........C-28534-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #7 July 19, 2002 Still wont join the domain, but funny thing is everything works-lol, I can type in http://cyber and get my Apache web server, type in http://mycyber and get my IIS server, ping to hell and back but it just doesnt like my local domain-lol now question is, will it work with SAMBA? I'm pretty sure none of you can see my web servers because my ISP uses DHCP, but I was able to connect remotely to other http ports, so heres a few links I'd like to see what happens when you click on them....if ya dont mind default apache server - http://24.27.70.62 secure server - https://24.27.70.62 youll prolly just get page cannot be displayed-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 July 19, 2002 You can run any program in an emulator that is built into XP to let the PC run the program as 95/98/2k. Thats one of the cool features that buried in the OS. Its an option you have to check on the program in its properties.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 July 19, 2002 Secure Server works. You need to chage the info on the certificate. ISS got a connection refused/time out.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #10 July 19, 2002 ya I noticed that, another on the "to-do" but I'm really really glad that it works-lol, that means I can goof off with a webpage for our house now, or something. IIS link wasnt there, I really just have it so I can play with VB, VBS, asp etc the great thing is that everyhting running off my redhat is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-lol, including the cool secure server! ...chicken makes me feel soo good............the aquabats(its a real song)-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #11 July 19, 2002 i can't log onto either one, the apache server gives a "internal error" message, and the other is complaining about a valid certificate, this is on my XP machine, would it make a difference if i was running one of the other machines, the ME, or win 98, or second addition? i forgot to add, even though i have ethernet cards in all of my machines, all of them communicate, except the XP machine.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #12 July 19, 2002 In that case... the default apache is not working. Time outs and connections refused. Look at your firewall... And IIS is free too with a Server OS Its even got a secure server option... The Certificate is going to cost you money no matter what you chose as your platform.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 July 19, 2002 A similar prog is in 9x also, allows you to set variables to be able to run your old 3.1 and dos 5.x and up stuff, not that tha is actually relevant anymore...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 July 19, 2002 QuoteAnd ISS is free too with a Server OS If you wanted to drop by Aggieland, you could come away with a copy of 2k server...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 July 19, 2002 >2k server LOL... warez junkie... at least offer Advanced 2k or XP server.... Enterprize Agreement licences rock is all I'll say... cost a boat load... but they rock...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 July 19, 2002 I don't like XP yet, still prefer 2k and it *is* advanced 2k server... And yes they do and yes, yes they do.. Cyber, question, do you have a 2k box around there? Does it connect correctly? Technically the networking between the two operating systems are very very similar, but I've seen some quarky things with XP so far...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #17 July 19, 2002 2k box isnt up yet, the xp works like it should now, but still wont join the domain, it works tho..... groper theres nothing "technically" wrong with the certificate, and it wont hurt to say yes-lol, I'm prolly gonna sign it myself since I'm not gonna use the sitre for any commercial purposes or collect sensitive information, but, the sign.sh script that was suppossed to come with open_ssl, mod_ssl isnt there, so I havent been able to sign it yet... anyhow the page will prolly just have pictures of skeeter flea and zipster along with some skydiving videos or something-who knows-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #18 July 19, 2002 I can connect from a Win2k box to the IIS but not the apache page. If no one else can help you on the domain-joining issue (if you still need this feature for some reason), you can open a case with Microsoft. I realize that this is a last resort, but I 've done it once in a situation where a 3rd-party product could not deal with Windows "sockets". It turned out to be a directory security problem with IIS internet guest user that intiallly appeared unrelated. ANYHOW, my point is that they can be helpful. Remember to try to set the case up as an individual rather than corporate to save money. Again, this is a last resort. I searched for join, domain on the MS support site and nothing comes up for XP. Sorry. HarryI don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #19 July 19, 2002 umm... the xp box is trying to join a windows domain... do you have a domain controller setup?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 July 19, 2002 Right... without a DC you need to have them all on a Workgroup. And Linux does'nt play well with Windows domains anyways.... it loves workgroups though...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #21 July 19, 2002 yep, that's what I was thinking, just surprised it took that long for someone else to suggest it. a Windows domain and an Internet Domain are similar but two distinctly different animals. Samba will act as a WINS server (unnecessary with XP) and an alternative to a Domain Controller. info here. Personally, I'd leave it as a workgroup (simplest)or set up an AD and integrate the Nix box into the AD tree. side note, anyone have any experience with SNORT as an IDS? Care to share your experiences before I embark on my next weekend project?I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1freak 0 #22 July 19, 2002 does xp think that it is the pdc?HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #23 July 19, 2002 XP thinks it's the almighty himself. i've got 4 machines, and the XP is my least favorite OS, and "whiniest" --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskydive 0 #24 July 19, 2002 all the windows boxes are hosts on a redhat domain. Everything I need is working ok for now, just wondered why on xp it wont accept the domain I wanna join, like 98 did. So far there are two xp boxes with the same problem. My only concern now is if I can use samba to allow everyone to share printers etc joined to windows computers, I've never used samba before. we'll see-System.Windows.IUnknown.Crash.Reboot.Crash.Reboot.Freeze.Crash.Reboot.Break.Stuff.dot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #25 July 19, 2002 ah... so your linux box is acting as a domain controller? If this is the case: 1) set it up in the lmhosts file on the xp machine make sure to include the #pre and #dom tags and either create a new file (suggested) or take the .sam off the exisiting one 2) unsure about xp, but nt 4 did not, by default, authenticate with clear text. you either need to do something on the linux box to create the encrypted passwords (I forget how at the moment) or add a reg entry to the xp machine so that it will send password in clear text (forget where that is at the moment, check MS's KB)it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
