JanJ 0 #1 July 23, 2002 Just graduated from AFF last weekend!! I've been reading posts from you all for months have learned and laughed a lot. I know this is a subject that has probably been batted around before, but do any of you have any suggestions for a newbie timing a flare? I think I am waiting too long and have had some pretty hard landings recently. Will video help, or is it just a matter of fine-tuning and experience? Thanks ahead for your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #2 July 23, 2002 Do a search on the site, we've had a lot of discussions about this, especially in the swooping and canopy control forum.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #3 July 23, 2002 Don't stare into the ground to guage your height. Look straight ahead instead. When you are about 10-15 feet, flare. It comes with practice. And in order to practice, you need to be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #4 July 23, 2002 I recommend against flaring with one hand...especially if jumping a stiletto.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #5 July 23, 2002 video will help more than you can imagine. also are you looking at the horizon or the ground to time your flair??if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #6 July 23, 2002 Depends. If you are having a no flare competition you do not want to flare at all. Seriously ~ if you like soft landings there is no better training tool than video. Make sure you are not fixated with the ground as mentioned above and make sure you are flaring completely. I have seen so many people that do not finish their flare for whatever reason and they pound in all the time? Get vid............... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #7 July 23, 2002 For me, learning when to flare was mostly a matter of experience, with a little advice. Rather than flaring too late, my original problem was flaring to early, then crunching in. One comment someone made to me that really helped was, "When you could kick a spectator in the head, flare." After a certain point, I just sort of "got it", and it has been much better ever since. When to flare will depend on the type of canopy you use, loading, etc. Like other have said, video may help. I'd add the suggestion to have an instructor/experienced jumper watch you land a few times and debrief you. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #8 July 23, 2002 Quote...any of you have any suggestions for a newbie timing a flare? I think I am waiting too long Quote How did you get yourself down under canopy as a student? Likely radio? If so, there's no reason you can't get yourself back on the radio sheet with a comment like "just tell me when to flare"... the guy/girl doing radio will let you pilot yourself down and then say "jumper number 1,...FLARE!" when they think it is a good time... You just look straight ahead and take a mental snapshot when he/she does and you'll be laughing. like this= Some good advice already posted above... "Flare when you can kick a spctator in the head" was exactly how an insructor told me when I had asked. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christoofar 0 #9 July 23, 2002 QuoteI recommend against flaring with one hand...especially if jumping a stiletto.... Sometimes flaring with one hand is unavoidable Nov 2001 I dislocated my shoulder in freefall. I couldn't get to the hackey and my right arm went limp. Had to pull silver. Out popped a Raven 181 loaded 1:1 (I was heavier at the time). Managed to land the canopy with my working left hand... but I did a buttload of PRACTICE FLARES to make sure I wasn't executing a turn... and I admit the final second right before touchdown I ran like hell to keep from PLFing onto my already dislocated shoulder and managed to stand it up! ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nws01 0 #10 July 23, 2002 QuoteWhen you could kick a spectator in the head, flare." Is that a tall spectator or a short spectator. How tall of a spectator do you need to imagine kicking? How many spectators could a skydiver kick if a skydiver could kick a spectator? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weid14 0 #11 July 23, 2002 QuoteHow many spectators could a skydiver kick if a skydiver could kick a spectator About the same amount as: wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, I imagine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
christoofar 0 #9 July 23, 2002 QuoteI recommend against flaring with one hand...especially if jumping a stiletto.... Sometimes flaring with one hand is unavoidable Nov 2001 I dislocated my shoulder in freefall. I couldn't get to the hackey and my right arm went limp. Had to pull silver. Out popped a Raven 181 loaded 1:1 (I was heavier at the time). Managed to land the canopy with my working left hand... but I did a buttload of PRACTICE FLARES to make sure I wasn't executing a turn... and I admit the final second right before touchdown I ran like hell to keep from PLFing onto my already dislocated shoulder and managed to stand it up! ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #10 July 23, 2002 QuoteWhen you could kick a spectator in the head, flare." Is that a tall spectator or a short spectator. How tall of a spectator do you need to imagine kicking? How many spectators could a skydiver kick if a skydiver could kick a spectator? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #11 July 23, 2002 QuoteHow many spectators could a skydiver kick if a skydiver could kick a spectator About the same amount as: wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, I imagine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
