freebird 0 #1 July 24, 2002 I found an artical on the low turn. If you are at 100 feet ready for a nice landing and flare. You see someone out of the corner of your eye heading for the same spot as you. What the heck do ya do?bIm a novice ( 63 jumps) I would do a HALF BRAKE TURN to the oppsite side of the other canopy. Actually I would go into a half brake to shoulder position and let up on the left side .If the the other canopy was on my left. I would lose less altitude and glide toward the right , is this a good idea or not? Freebird Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freebird 0 #2 July 24, 2002 My spelling sucks...I just had a margaritta........ooooh too strong......my tummy hurts........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseek 0 #3 July 24, 2002 It all depends on the situation and angle of the other jumper's approach. At 30-ish jumps i made the classic error of turning radically in this situation and was lucky to have only broken a small bone in my ankle. With turns as welll as other things, i refer to a Sgt's advice from my time in the army: "slow is smooth, and smooth is fast".(i.e. don't over-do anything) Truthfully, you should be scanning the skies LONG before you get to the 100ft. mark in order to see and adjust to these conditions. I have turned away from the peas lots of times in order to help out the air traffic situation...no shame in walking back, where there is a LOT of shame and danger in everyone fighting for the same landing area. View your canopy desent as something that requires a "threat assessment" and you will be safer in the long run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freebird 0 #4 July 24, 2002 yes I do scan...VERY MUCH I always want to have a plan in the wose case of something happening though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 July 24, 2002 Depends on how much you let up. If you let it all the way up you'll hook in, if you let it up an inch or 2 at the most, you will do a nice easy turn. Practice this up high, it takes some practice to learn to use it properly and if you use too much brake the canopy will get all mushy on you and when you let up to prepare to flare, the canopy will dive and bust you in. If you don't use enough brake the canopy will impact before you can complete the turn. Practice it and learn the proper way to do it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #6 July 24, 2002 All canopy pilots should learn how to make flat turns for final course corrections. This situation happend to me just last weekend. Snowflake was coming straight for me after I came into the pattern and he was coming back from a long spot. I spotted him quickly and kept one eye on him and quickly checked the ground and for other jumpers. I noticed that he saw me immediately and he corrected for a downwinder so I kept my course level and flared for landing (BTW excellent running on that downwind!!!) If he had not had seen me, I would have brought my right toggle down 3/4 and the left down 1/2 to do a flat turn to the right to avoid a collision. ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freebird 0 #7 July 24, 2002 Lets say I do have to turn low....Is sholuder level a good turn level? I would gently pull up on the oppsite side of the obstacle as to turn slowly the other way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 July 24, 2002 Each person and Each canopy is different. Ther e is no set formula... place hands here and here and it works 100% of the time. On MY canopy, its just below and out from my sholder blades... on a demo canopy I jumped it was at my ears on another canopy it was at my nipple level. Its all you and the canopy.... learn the canopy... become one with the canopy....Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEB6363 0 #9 July 24, 2002 If you're both landing in the same spot, you can just give about 1 or 2 -inches of turn AWAY from the other. If the other turns with 1 or 2 -inches of toggle away from you, you will not hit. There is no reason to get radical and do a 1/2-brake turn to clear the area. just a little eye contact and a mild turn and you can land side-by-side safely. Now, I don't mean touching each other, but 10-20 feet is fine. Don't get freaked, just land safe. Once the plane takes off, you're gonna have to land - Might as well jump out!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #10 July 25, 2002 QuoteLets say I do have to turn low... Oh man those words make my skin crawl. Especially when you're at lower jump numbers, the temptation to to a toggle turn, even a light one, is very high. It's really hard to keep your head straight when something is about to go seriously wrong. A very light braked turn, where you turn opposite the direction that the person is flying (i.e. if they are flying toward your right, you turn left) should do the trick. You also may want to practice turning by shifting your weight in your harness. It takes some practice, but once you learn it, it is a much safer way to do minor course corrections without the dangers of using the toggles. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
