Keith 0 #1 August 21, 2002 The jury found him guilty of first degree murder, kidnapping of a minor, and child porn.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #2 August 21, 2002 Yep, just heard that - lots of people here are glued to the TV. At least it's over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #3 August 21, 2002 ok i am glad to hear that. um who is westerfield??if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #4 August 21, 2002 Not over yet...victim impact statements and the penalty phase... But YAY! Guilty on all counts...and a jury who took the time to actually consider all aspects of the case. Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #5 August 21, 2002 The guy who kidnapped and murdered Danielle Van Dam here in So CalKeith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #6 August 21, 2002 ooohhh ok.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #7 August 21, 2002 Good. I hope the shithead goes away for life and get's a cellmate named Bubba who chooses him to be his girlfriend. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #8 August 21, 2002 QuoteGood. I hope the shithead goes away for life and get's a cellmate named Bubba who chooses him to be his girlfriend. And he should have his balls and shaft removed for raping a child.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #9 August 21, 2002 Rot in hell, rot in hell, rot in hell.... Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #10 August 21, 2002 take him out of the gene pool altogether. where's a good death penalty when you need one?"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #11 August 21, 2002 I just hope they got the right guy........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #12 August 21, 2002 QuoteAnd he should have his balls and shaft removed for raping a child. First they should twist those balls until he screams for mercy...and then twist them some more. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #13 August 21, 2002 They either got the right guy or they got the dumbest and unluckiest innocent guy ever. He takes a road trip to the middle of nowhere and scours his camper, including fumigating it with chlorine if I remember right, right after she disappears, he brings bloody clothes to the dry cleaner a couple days later, the blood belongs to the girl, and while he's showing the cops where he went with the camper he makes some offhand comment about how it would be a good place to dump a body. I think deep down, he wanted to be caught. It was a cry for help. Thankfully, law enforcement was listening, and now he can move along towards his likely fate of getting stabbed to death in the prison shower by some other reprobate. But I do agree with your sentiment, Clay. We can never be too careful with something of this magnitude and getting wrongfully convicted for something like this would actually probably be worse than dying. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinkster 0 #14 August 21, 2002 The evidence is pretty dang convincing that they did! Check out the article on foxnews.com it has that in there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #15 August 21, 2002 QuoteIt was a cry for help. Um, can you explain this? I just simply can't understand how the brutal rape and murder of a child is a cry for help. Thanks, JD Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #16 August 21, 2002 I didn't mean the act itself. I meant his behavior afterwards. And it was a little bit tongue in cheek anyway, though obviously not intended to trivialize anything. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #17 August 21, 2002 QuoteThe evidence is pretty dang convincing I haven't seen it but I just happen to have some personal experience with over zealous law enforcement officers, prosecutors, and "experts." Sometimes they can get a "little" carried away thinking they are "Doing the right thing" and "fudge" things a little. Cause after all.....they have the right guy....they are sure of it!!! I remember seeing a story where they had to go back and review HUNDREDS of cases because they found that a lab tech was giving "Evidence to order" over many years. IE If someone brought some hair or fiber samples in to see if they match......of course they do!! You don't even have to know what kind of case it is to know that if they don't match the "evidence" is useless or may prove they have the wrong suspect. I personally had a situation where some photographs were taken. Upon review by a panel of "experts" (Including one that was the SME in the country for the DOD) they didn't show what EVERYONE expected them too. They EXPECTED them to show a certain thing because they all had convicted me already. When they didn't they took more photographs under the guise that the machine had "malfunctioned" I proved they lied....nobody cared..... However, it sounds like this guy needed to hire Johnny Cochran..... There certainly seems to be convincing evidence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #18 August 21, 2002 Thanks for clarifying that, Joe! Ciels and Pinks Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #19 August 21, 2002 QuoteI just simply can't understand how the brutal rape and murder of a child is a cry for help I took it to mean that Westerfield's actions after the fact were a cry for help... Such as making a comment about "good place to dump a body" In other words the guy knew what he did and wanted to be caught.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #20 August 21, 2002 Quoteand get's a cellmate named Bubba who chooses him to be his girlfriend. Actually, he's far more likely to be held in "administrative segregation" for his own protection. Administrative segregation is a nice term for solitary - in the cell 23 hours a day, out of it for an hour of "exercise", alone. Luckily for the rest of us, so called "normal" criminals have a real big problem with child rapists/murderers (in their terms - the "deviates"). The "normal" inmates will do whatever it takes to assure that the "deviates" aren't breathing the same air as they are. Or at least that's what the four or five lifers that I heard testify last year said (in the death penalty case I was a juror on) - and what the defendant in that case proved (by lying in wait for a rapist/murderer who was breathing the same air, then ripping the deviate's throat open and burying the "shank" - homemade prison knife - into the deviate's spine...). Whatever Westerfield gets, it isn't enough... but rest assured, he'll have no fun in prison. No fun at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #21 August 21, 2002 QuoteLuckily for the rest of us, so called "normal" criminals Hehehehee.....I missed the comma in that the first time I read it.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #22 August 21, 2002 There was a lot of evidence. DNA, fingerprints, fibers. He was rightly accused and convicted. Some people have a hard time believing this could actually happen and have a hard time saying someone is guilty regardless of the evidence. He will not be stabbed or otherwise violated in prison. He will be in isolation until he dies of old age or is executed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #23 August 21, 2002 >Whatever Westerfield gets, it isn't enough... but rest assured, he'll >have no fun in prison. No fun at all. He may not have that opportunity. He was convicted of murder under special circumstances (kidnap of a minor) so he may end up with the death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #24 August 21, 2002 if he does get the death penalty (I'm not sure that is an option in this case), won't he be segregated until the sentence is carried out anyways? I seem to recall that death penalty cases aren't put into general population. In Ca, he can be on death row (and has been) 10-15 years down the road.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #25 August 21, 2002 QuoteSome people have a hard time believing this could actually happen and have a hard time saying someone is guilty regardless of the evidence. Don't lump me in with that crowd. I'm all too aware of the evil that stalks the planet. I just know that something as emotional as the rape and murder of a child can get a lot of "crusaders" involved. I usually shy away from grabbing my pitchfork and joining the mob to march on the castle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites