Pammi 0 #1 August 23, 2002 I'm surprised no one has brought this up yet, perhaps because it'll prob'ly end up another locked thread. Maybe I missed it? But, by now you've probably heard of the 'shock jocks' from New York who were kicked off the air for doing a contest where you would get points according to how 'daring' the deed was, and had a list of said deeds with point value. One of the tops in point value was having sex in St. Patrick's in NY. A couple did it (or now are saying the emulated sex, but didn't actually do it) and got arrested. The DJ's are kicked off the air, I'm not sure if fired yet (or will be), and the directors of the show are in trouble also. I read elsewhere a good point that I agreed with. If a 'church' can be anywhere two or more gather in His name, then if you hold services at a lake, can you not get frisky in said lake? I, personally, don't care if someone wants to have sex in a church. The only way I'd have a problem with it is if there were people there at the time that they would/could offend. Or children for Heaven's sake. If it was empty, go for it. That's 'some' of my thoughts on it. (Then again, I've 'done it' any number of places that I mighta got arrested for and actually shocked a toll both guy on purpose once..so maybe I'm a bit off-center). Basically it boils down to 'who cares'. Perhaps a bit much for radio, but whatever. I don't have to listen to the show if I don't approve, or do the deeds for points unless I want to. To each their own. (Then again, I'm a firm believe in that if it's not harming anyone, particularly me or those I love, then it's really none of my business what ANYONE wants to do. Who am I to judge?) Thoughts? (hoping this won't get nasty) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #2 August 23, 2002 Probably wouldn't be a big deal if indeed the church was empty. But my understanding is that anytime someone from the public can get into a catholic church, there are generally at least priests there. On the other hand, it doesn't sound like this couple was very sneaky about what they were doing. Did he have her laid out on the communion table, with her screaming her brains out or what? There are plenty of "hiding" places in a next to empty sanctuary that would make it relatively easy to accomplish this, assuming you were trying to be sneaky about it. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fudd 0 #3 August 23, 2002 QuoteThere are plenty of "hiding" places in a next to empty sanctuary that would make it relatively easy to accomplish this, assuming you were trying to be sneaky about it. How do you know that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #4 August 23, 2002 True..I'm not sure if they were down in a pew in the back, or if she was bent over one (On another note..it's funny the DZ.com doesn't recognize 'priests' in the spell check! hehe) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #5 August 23, 2002 I have no problem with people having sex in a church. While not the case for this radio thing, maybe a couple is religious and wants to start their family in the place they started their marriage. Whatever. As long as they aren't interferring with the services or making other people uncomfortable by getting caught, I see no harm in it. If people want to have sex and be seen in public, I have no problem with that either, but I'd have to draw the line and say that a church is not the right place for that type of exhibitionist show. That is more fit for, say... a runway or packing loft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites meatmissile 0 #6 August 23, 2002 The key issue is respect for others religious beliefs (as opposed to moral values - for which I show scant respect). I'm not even particularly religious, but - sorry, my vote on this one is against. I am however in favour of exhibitionism! The more, the better! Yeah! -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #7 August 23, 2002 QuoteThe key issue is respect for others religious beliefs If it is a celibate monastery, then no. If it is a Catholic church, then go for it. They are all about making babies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #8 August 23, 2002 QuoteHow do you know that... Let's just say I grew up in a church environment. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dumpster 0 #9 August 23, 2002 OK- So the basic topic is sex in a church - I don't know if anyone else here was subjected to the exquisite torture of a Catholic school education, but I unfortunately was. ( better education through intimidation and humiliation-) Made quite a character out of me for a while- Not to digress-- It sure wouldn't be the first time anyone had sex in a church! It went on at our school and several others in the area on a regular basis - The church was almost never locked, and there were lots of places to do it! No sweat! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #10 August 23, 2002 I was raised Catholic and this happened in a Catholic Church. If you were to research the Catholic Catechism you would realize how offensive this act was to practicing Catholic people. I can't speak for any other religion. IMHO, I'm glad Opie and Andy got into the trouble they are in. If you are not interested in the Catholic faith or curious about the Catholic faith, then just stay out of our church. There are many other houses of worship. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites megscott73 0 #11 August 23, 2002 I just heard about this today. I listen to "Opie & Anthony" pretty pften. They do this little competition at least once amonth. I believe the church it happened in was St Patrick's Cathedral in downtown Manhattan, which is probably the one of the most famous churched in the country. I've never gone into that church when there wasn't at least 50 or so people in there. I personally don't care where people have sex either, but to be announcing on the radio that this was going on I guess was enough to really piss people off. It really is total disrespect for people who are catholic. I like the radio show--it's really really funny, but maybe they should show a little respect when it comes to certain religious beliefs.======================= "What I want is what I've not got ,but what I need is all around me"-DMB Meghan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pammi 0 #12 August 23, 2002 I think that's probably what it boils down to, Meg....respect for others' beliefs. Some of us would say "go for it, have fun" while others would say "that's SO wrong!". My mother-in-law, for instance, would probably have a heart attack if she heard of such a thing, and isn't even Catholic. I think it would be more out of respect for her and others like her that I wouldn't *obviously* do it. However, I might if I wouldn't get caught...IE: no one around. What they didn't know couldn't hurt them. I also think the idea behind it is the offensive part for some. It's obviously a controversial subject, which is why the point value is be so high. If it weren't wrong on some levels, it wouldn't have been a big deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #13 August 23, 2002 "a celibate monastery" They have those ? 75 guys in dresses who live together and it turns out they're gay! Who'd a thunk it ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #14 August 23, 2002 Sex for Sam was in its third year on the O and A show so its not a new concept to New Yorkers. The issue this year was that they were caught an arrested... thats what got the issue on the news.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasterfaller 0 #15 August 23, 2002 Catholic priests get away with that one all the time . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #16 August 23, 2002 The "shock" in "shockjock" comes from poking at subjects that we normally consider to be out of bounds. They have to expect it to come back and bite them sometimes, which is what happened here. I'm glad they're in trouble. I'm not Catholic, and I'm all for priest jokes, etc. As far as I am concerned, they have brought it upon themselves...that's another story...there comes a point, though, where it's not that funny anymore, it's just a couple of people sitting in a room trying to think of how they can be as disrespectful as possible. I just don't find that entertaining. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #17 August 23, 2002 Actually... for this contest they were given a list of places where to have sex and different items were worth different amounts... ie Madison Square Guardens was worth 25 and the church/place of worship was worth 10. They had a list of 25-30 different places they could have went in and around NYC (I think you got 30 points if you did in in Jersy). One place was a taxi...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #18 August 23, 2002 Phree, I don't know if that was responding to my post, or mine just happened to be the last one. The fact, though, that a church was on the list at all, I consider to be disrespectful and inappropriate. Just my opinion. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasterfaller 0 #19 August 23, 2002 The people that go to the church are the church , the building is just a building . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #20 August 23, 2002 I disagree. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #21 August 23, 2002 I have to say that I think it was VERY inappropriate. I think they deserve everything they are getting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #22 August 23, 2002 QuoteI disagree. So what? I disagree with your disagreement. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasterfaller 0 #23 August 23, 2002 So I guess that if you go to a church that doesn't have a building it doesn't count . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 August 23, 2002 Oh yeah... one other side not to this whole deal (I was listening on the drive home and listened for most of that day due to a car wreck on the highway) It was'nt just intercourse that counted... Oral or any other mean on either parties behalf was enough to count. Each couple took along an observer to make sure the event actually took place. There were a lot of interesting ways points were scored... in one case they counted it as points that there was a feel up on the subway... (I'm thinking that the couple that was caught was going the oral route but don't quote me on that) I'm not saying one way or other on the issue.. personally...I was laughing the entire show beacuse of the context it was in.. not just the locations.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #25 August 23, 2002 QuoteCatholic priests get away with that one all the time . That doesn't make it right. Please don't make the mistake of lumping all Catholic believers into the same category of some errant priests. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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meatmissile 0 #6 August 23, 2002 The key issue is respect for others religious beliefs (as opposed to moral values - for which I show scant respect). I'm not even particularly religious, but - sorry, my vote on this one is against. I am however in favour of exhibitionism! The more, the better! Yeah! -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #7 August 23, 2002 QuoteThe key issue is respect for others religious beliefs If it is a celibate monastery, then no. If it is a Catholic church, then go for it. They are all about making babies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #8 August 23, 2002 QuoteHow do you know that... Let's just say I grew up in a church environment. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #9 August 23, 2002 OK- So the basic topic is sex in a church - I don't know if anyone else here was subjected to the exquisite torture of a Catholic school education, but I unfortunately was. ( better education through intimidation and humiliation-) Made quite a character out of me for a while- Not to digress-- It sure wouldn't be the first time anyone had sex in a church! It went on at our school and several others in the area on a regular basis - The church was almost never locked, and there were lots of places to do it! No sweat! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #10 August 23, 2002 I was raised Catholic and this happened in a Catholic Church. If you were to research the Catholic Catechism you would realize how offensive this act was to practicing Catholic people. I can't speak for any other religion. IMHO, I'm glad Opie and Andy got into the trouble they are in. If you are not interested in the Catholic faith or curious about the Catholic faith, then just stay out of our church. There are many other houses of worship. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megscott73 0 #11 August 23, 2002 I just heard about this today. I listen to "Opie & Anthony" pretty pften. They do this little competition at least once amonth. I believe the church it happened in was St Patrick's Cathedral in downtown Manhattan, which is probably the one of the most famous churched in the country. I've never gone into that church when there wasn't at least 50 or so people in there. I personally don't care where people have sex either, but to be announcing on the radio that this was going on I guess was enough to really piss people off. It really is total disrespect for people who are catholic. I like the radio show--it's really really funny, but maybe they should show a little respect when it comes to certain religious beliefs.======================= "What I want is what I've not got ,but what I need is all around me"-DMB Meghan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #12 August 23, 2002 I think that's probably what it boils down to, Meg....respect for others' beliefs. Some of us would say "go for it, have fun" while others would say "that's SO wrong!". My mother-in-law, for instance, would probably have a heart attack if she heard of such a thing, and isn't even Catholic. I think it would be more out of respect for her and others like her that I wouldn't *obviously* do it. However, I might if I wouldn't get caught...IE: no one around. What they didn't know couldn't hurt them. I also think the idea behind it is the offensive part for some. It's obviously a controversial subject, which is why the point value is be so high. If it weren't wrong on some levels, it wouldn't have been a big deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #13 August 23, 2002 "a celibate monastery" They have those ? 75 guys in dresses who live together and it turns out they're gay! Who'd a thunk it ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 August 23, 2002 Sex for Sam was in its third year on the O and A show so its not a new concept to New Yorkers. The issue this year was that they were caught an arrested... thats what got the issue on the news.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #15 August 23, 2002 Catholic priests get away with that one all the time . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #16 August 23, 2002 The "shock" in "shockjock" comes from poking at subjects that we normally consider to be out of bounds. They have to expect it to come back and bite them sometimes, which is what happened here. I'm glad they're in trouble. I'm not Catholic, and I'm all for priest jokes, etc. As far as I am concerned, they have brought it upon themselves...that's another story...there comes a point, though, where it's not that funny anymore, it's just a couple of people sitting in a room trying to think of how they can be as disrespectful as possible. I just don't find that entertaining. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #17 August 23, 2002 Actually... for this contest they were given a list of places where to have sex and different items were worth different amounts... ie Madison Square Guardens was worth 25 and the church/place of worship was worth 10. They had a list of 25-30 different places they could have went in and around NYC (I think you got 30 points if you did in in Jersy). One place was a taxi...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #18 August 23, 2002 Phree, I don't know if that was responding to my post, or mine just happened to be the last one. The fact, though, that a church was on the list at all, I consider to be disrespectful and inappropriate. Just my opinion. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #19 August 23, 2002 The people that go to the church are the church , the building is just a building . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #20 August 23, 2002 I disagree. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #21 August 23, 2002 I have to say that I think it was VERY inappropriate. I think they deserve everything they are getting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #22 August 23, 2002 QuoteI disagree. So what? I disagree with your disagreement. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #23 August 23, 2002 So I guess that if you go to a church that doesn't have a building it doesn't count . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #24 August 23, 2002 Oh yeah... one other side not to this whole deal (I was listening on the drive home and listened for most of that day due to a car wreck on the highway) It was'nt just intercourse that counted... Oral or any other mean on either parties behalf was enough to count. Each couple took along an observer to make sure the event actually took place. There were a lot of interesting ways points were scored... in one case they counted it as points that there was a feel up on the subway... (I'm thinking that the couple that was caught was going the oral route but don't quote me on that) I'm not saying one way or other on the issue.. personally...I was laughing the entire show beacuse of the context it was in.. not just the locations.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #25 August 23, 2002 QuoteCatholic priests get away with that one all the time . That doesn't make it right. Please don't make the mistake of lumping all Catholic believers into the same category of some errant priests. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
