Silly Air Force

[Viking 0]

Ya so i hear from a Marine buddy of mine that the Army is the worst of all services. Bunch of Girly men he caoohh hey chuck hows it going man? HEY LOOK A COBALT!!! *runs away*

I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver
My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin

[quatorze 1]

The Marines do serve a purpose, even the Navy needs bell... whoops was that my out loud voice?

I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

[Scratch 0]

Let me think and I am speaking under correction here. I am getting rusty with regards to my aircraft.

WW2
The Hawker Typhoon, originally developed as a fast interceptor was considered a failure at it's designated task. This aircraft was then 'armoured', re-equiped and turned into one of the best tank busters of the period. The Russian Sturmovik was a dedicated attack aircraft. Slow, armoured, tough as nails with excellent loiter time. The Soviets swore by it to the point that it became the most built aircraft of the period. The Nazies feared it above all.
The German Fw 190 D slotted into the same catagory. After 6 years of intense warfare all sides knew what CAS was...they were masters at it.

Vietnam
The US could not dust the old A1 Skyraider off fast enough when they realised that the F4's, F101's and Super Sabers were just too fast and had no real loiter time. Once again tough, heavy weapon load and extended time over target took precidence over speed and 'gadgets'.

South African Bush war
Aging Aermacchi 399 trainers were armoured up, bombed up and used to great effect. Where the Dasault Mirages had struggled with their high speeds and short legs.

Seems like the only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.

[Viking 0]

nicely put

I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver
My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin

[quatorze 1]

It seems that the US Marines are about the only ones that have figured out that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. When the US Army was busy bringing in the new era of helo's, the Blackhawk ( Crashhawk) and the Apache, which teh majority of that fleet type was ground for some time, the Marines were improving on combat proven platforms, the UH-1 Iriquois (Huey) and the Bell Cobra. Which are still some of the baddest birds in the sky.

I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

[wingnut 0]

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i forgot the Airforce is more a Corparation than anything else

hey, just because my uniform looks like a blazer with some ribons on it doesn't make it a corporation... and get it right, it's the Chair force......

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[Viking 0]

oh dude the cobra is one funky lookin bird though!! i wonder how it would do with a quad blade main rotor instead of that double blade?

I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver
My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin

[quatorze 1]

One of my buds is down in FL for flight training in the Corps and was telling me that the USMC is looking into putting a stronger engine in and quad blades on both the huey and the cobra, bad ass.

I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

[Viking 0]

dude your not supposed to do that! You supposed to get pissed that we are making fun of your service and then put down on one of the other services!! jesus i thought you knew the rules!! fuckin chair force slacker

I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver
My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin

[freeflir29 0]

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Also so let me get this straight he used the IR sensor on the mavrick as a FLIR unit?!?! do they teach that?

Nahh...but they have been doing it for years. The A-10 is pretty much a Day VFR aircraft that pilots have to learn how to fly in all weather and at night under NVG's. Since they have that nice IIR sensor hanging off the wing, might as well use it. The display is pretty damn small though. I'd say about a 5 inch circle.

[jdhill 0]

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but the AF has a fit anytime the army suggests getting back into fixed wing flight..

The Army never got out of fixed wing... they have many for "special" purposes... mostly King Airs but some that are bigger... the NG even has a big brother to the Skyvan - the Sherpa...

Back in the late 80's earily 90's when the AF started talking openly about dumping the A-10... there was lot's of talk about making CAS an Army mission... but, as you said the AF through a fit... CAS should be under the control and work regularly with the ground troops they support... I think the Marines do it this way with the AV-8B and AH-1S

Josh

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

[BikerBabe 0]

Hey, you can call it a corporation...I ain't gonna argue. Heck, I work in the worst part of the AF for that...we ARE a corporation. We have to institute all that crap like TQM and "best practices" and ISO whatever just like all the contractors we work with.

I work 9 to 5, in a cubicle, at a computer, with finacial records and engineering drawings. Take down the "Kirtland AIr Force Base" and replace it with "Boeing" or Lockheed", and I'd never know the difference...

Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

[Zenister 0]

AHHhhh!!!!!!!

run away!! she said "TQM"
thats worse than "Ni".......

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[TheBile 0]

The A10. How can any military retire a plane that parades it's engines like a pair of huge testicles.

Gerb

I stir feelings in others they themselves don't understand. KA'CHOW !