Maksimsf 0 #1 May 29, 2013 Hey guys, seems like Icarus got the name for their new low bulk reserve that called "Nano". I was wondering if anyone can convince me buying "Nano" over "Optimum"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zlew 0 #2 May 29, 2013 Not sure about that, but can we start up the who stole/copied what from who argument again? :) just kidding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quagmirian 40 #3 May 29, 2013 Do you have any links or any other info? I can't seem to find any information on this new reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 May 29, 2013 Quote Hey guys, seems like Icarus got the name for their new low bulk reserve that called "Nano". I was wondering if anyone can convince me buying "Nano" over "Optimum"? When it comes to life saving equipment.... I am not an early adopter. For example the Raven Dash-M reserve issue of canopies made before 1999. It was not until 2001 that a problem was identified and an SB released. I wait 3 years on an AAD, or reserve to be on the market before I buy one. After 3 years, and issues should have been discovered. Things that are used on EVERY jump, like mains, I'll look at in a year.... Anyone remember the Nova? And iirc the original Safire? At any rate not all new skydiving toys are advancements.... And even when they are, they often take a year or so to change thinking so that they are safe... Such as when the CYPRES came out and people were having a bunch of two outs since they were still pulling at 2 with Stiletto's"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctrph8 0 #5 August 1, 2013 Maksimsf Hey guys, seems like Icarus got the name for their new low bulk reserve that called "Nano". I was wondering if anyone can convince me buying "Nano" over "Optimum"? Got a call from the good folks down at Chuting Star. They are getting some in in about a month. It is their new low bulk, answer to the Optimum... which I welcome. I love my Optimum but am still kind of salty about PD's policy to require every reserve to be recertified at the factory after 40 packjobs. She said the sizes would corolate almost exactly with the Optimum sizes and the volume would be similar. If they are smart they will come in a little cheaper than the Optimum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deyan 36 #6 August 1, 2013 Quote I love my Optimum but am still kind of salty about PD's policy to require every reserve to be recertified at the factory after 40 packjobs. The same counts for Icarus. Their reserve need to be re certified after 40 repacks as well. I don't know if they will keep this requirement for the Nano as well, but I will not be surprised if they do."My belief is that once the doctor whacks you on the butt, all guarantees are off" Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 August 1, 2013 Deyan Quote I love my Optimum but am still kind of salty about PD's policy to require every reserve to be recertified at the factory after 40 packjobs. The same counts for Icarus. Their reserve need to be re certified after 40 repacks as well. I don't know if they will keep this requirement for the Nano as well, but I will not be surprised if they do. which would be, without an excessive use of the reserve 8 (once every 2 years, with the actual US repack cycle) , around 15 years after purchase... yeah, that's too feckin' restrictive scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytribe 17 #8 August 1, 2013 I have no problems with a recertification program but has PD or another manufacturer that requires recertification of there equipment after a given time provided details on the failure rate (or equipment that they will not recertify). It would be interesting to see details to see how the gear is aging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilsb 1 #9 August 22, 2013 Icarus announced a release date of Sept 1st. Any had an opportunity to handle one of these or have information on them?Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctrph8 0 #10 August 23, 2013 http://www.icaruscanopies.aero/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123&Itemid=672 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100344095023078&set=vb.46702800&type=2&theater voilsb Icarus announced a release date of Sept 1st. Any had an opportunity to handle one of these or have information on them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilsb 1 #11 August 23, 2013 Thanks! I couldn't get Icarus' website to load earlier. Now what I'm curious about, is to compare similar pack volume (since there's no "the same") reserves for airspeed with brakes stowed. Example: PR143, OP160, NANO160?, Speed 170?, all with a 200lb suspended weight ... what are their relative airpseeds? Which one will pound you in hardest unconscious? Which one will pound you in least hard?Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 August 23, 2013 voilsb Thanks! I couldn't get Icarus' website to load earlier. Now what I'm curious about, is to compare similar pack volume (since there's no "the same") reserves for airspeed with brakes stowed. Example: PR143, OP160, NANO160?, Speed 170?, all with a 200lb suspended weight ... what are their relative airpseeds? Which one will pound you in hardest unconscious? Which one will pound you in least hard? Which one OPENS fastest (snivels least)? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctrph8 0 #13 August 23, 2013 I'm guessing a PDR 143 if I had to choose from that list. I think the others are made to open a little more reasonably. This is all coming from the guy who has exactly zero jumps on any of these canopies but I own two of them and am looking for a Nano. shropshire ***Thanks! I couldn't get Icarus' website to load earlier. Now what I'm curious about, is to compare similar pack volume (since there's no "the same") reserves for airspeed with brakes stowed. Example: PR143, OP160, NANO160?, Speed 170?, all with a 200lb suspended weight ... what are their relative airpseeds? Which one will pound you in hardest unconscious? Which one will pound you in least hard? Which one OPENS fastest (snivels least)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 August 23, 2013 cheers mate. I'm in the market for a new or even 'new-2-me' reserve as my Swift is 25 years old next month!! Currently I'd like an Optimum - but not sure .. need to make a purchase before my next repack. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchuso 3 #15 August 27, 2013 I jumped a Nano 126 at Lost Prairie (as a main) and I can say the opening was brisk. Nice flying and a surprisingly strong flare. Nice! Happy landings, Rafael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 August 27, 2013 cheers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites