arlo 0 #1 September 23, 2002 http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites Please go to this website and click on the pink button (yeah, there IS such a thing ;) in the center. Your click, along with others that day, will fund a free mammogram for an underprivileged woman each day. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO DO THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! IT CAN SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE--your mother, daughter, sister, wife... and please pass this along to everyone you know to do the same. thanks so much...we CAN make a difference! Oh yeah, hope everyone had a great weekend of skydiving (that was the obligatory skydiving mention ;). blue ones, arlo -------------------------------- long descriptor below if you wanna read it: DAILY RESULTS Breast cancer is the leading cause of cancer deaths among U.S. women ages 40-55, and is second only to lung cancer in the number of resulting cancer deaths. During the year 2002, 186,000 women will be diagnosed and 43,300 women will die of breast cancer. Early detection is the key to survival. Your click on the "Fund Free Mammograms" button helps fund mammography screenings for underprivileged women who otherwise wouldn't receive the gift of early breast cancer detection. Mammograms are provided by the National Breast Cancer Foundation, who puts special emphasis on reaching low-income, minority, and working-poor women whose awareness of breast cancer and opportunity for help is often limited. At The Breast Cancer Site, every day is a new opportunity to make a difference in the fight to prevent breast cancer deaths. The number of women helped depends on the number of visitors to The Breast Cancer Site. Please remember to click every day, and spread the word to family and friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #2 September 23, 2002 http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites For those too lazy to c/p.... And do it. It may in fact save a life. And wouldn't that be great? Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 September 23, 2002 I'm just irked that this dude trolled the other "real" forums with this. Yeah, its a good cause, but blantent spamming of the other forums always sort of peturbs me...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #4 September 23, 2002 Hi, Aggie...yeah, I can understand why you'd be ticked...notice I didn't "link" on those? LOL... And BTW, Arlo is, um, a girl.... Still and all, it's on the correct forum here, I guess...have you clicked the pink button yet? Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #5 September 23, 2002 QuoteI'm just irked that this dude trolled the other "real" forums with this. Yeah, its a good cause, but blantent spamming of the other forums always sort of peturbs me... You know what? I'm NOT a dude and I'm NOT spamming and I will remove that post from the other forum. The grand assumption I made was that some people only read certain forums and that people actually HAD A HEART and that no one would actually mind doing something that HELPED people that needed it. I see so much shit posted about stuff that doesn't matter in the grand scheme, that doing something as simple as "clicking on a website" that is a non-profit organization to provide women that can't afford it free mammograms was a pretty worthwild cause....especially on the heals of the womens Jump for the Cause/October is breast cancer awareness month, and all that other good fluff. They didn't ask you to buy shit. they asked you to click a SINGLE BUTTON ON A WEBSITE to give some poor woman a mammogram...that's it. What is the damn harm there??? I'm severly disappointed that you feel this way. Sorry for the inconvenience and I hope that no one you know is ever in the position to need something like this. It was free, it was something that you could've just read and gotten past (like I do with alot of these b.s. posts) instead of getting panties in a wad. It's attitudes like that which make people like me sometimes question why i even bother trying to make a difference. I'm just glad that this won't hinder me from trying to do what I can and to give a shit as a human being so maybe my actions can do something constructive like save someone's life....you can just bet it won't be done in this forum again. SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE FOR ANYONE READING THE OTHER FORUM. It SHALL be deleted. I didn't know that posting to Gear and Rigging about early breast cancer detection would be such a bad thing to do............jesus. it's really good to see what we're dealing with. off topic is more important than saving a life...hmm. arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 September 23, 2002 Quotehave you clicked the pink button yet? Actually, yes, I did. Arlo, Chill, look, I'm all about posting random stuff and important stuff, etc. However, where would we draw the line? You post something that is important, but you do it in every forum, then someone else would find something important, etc. After being on the net/BBSes since 1987, spam just bothers me, no matter how good it is or how important it is. See what I'm talking about? Sorry I upset you and I'm sorry about your assumptions about my caring for other people.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #7 September 23, 2002 Kewlio, Dave. Somehow, I just knew you would! Hi, Arlo.... I appreciate what you did. Laura (who I called "otherMother"), had she detected her breast cancer early enough, might still be alive today, instead of dying a very tough death last summer. And don't stop trying to make a difference, because if you stop, maybe everyone else will. Sometimes, it only takes one single voice to change things, to bring awareness to others which they didn't have before. And most of the time, you will never know who's heard you, and who's listened. They don't always come back and tell you "hey, thanks, you changed a life today". Know that what you do does make a difference, though. I know I never would have found the site without you posting it here. I went there, and clicked. The thread has gotten a number of hits, and I suspect that a number of those went on and clicked, just like me. We'll never know, though, and it really doesn't matter - you made a difference because you clicked, and brought us the opportunity for us to contribute. What Dave was saying, though, in his round about way, is that there is a place for this, which is here, like you did. Because you thought it was a great idea, you got a little enthusiastic about bringing it to us. Thank you for doing that, Arlo. This forum is, if I may speak for the moderators, the correct place, whereas the others may not have been the best choice. Keep lifting your voice, and knowing that, even when you think you're shouting into the wilderness, someone hears you, and you could change a life. Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #8 September 23, 2002 Can everyone please just calm down in here? Arlo, yes you are doing a good thing and it is a noble cause to fight.Thank you for trying to help. I know AggieDave and hes a good guy. I'm sure it wasnt meant the way it was perceived.Sometimes it does get irritating when things get spammed regardless of the content.Truthfully, your post could have just as easily been moved to this forum from the others by the moderators b/c it isnt on topic.(then again I'm not a greenie so I dont know)Please dont get upset.Aggie just wants to keep this community going great like you and the rest us dot commers. Truce? "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #9 September 23, 2002 Hi, Arlo. Chill, sweetie. No need to get so upset about it that you take the post away from this forum, too. For all those who're interested in clicking a little pink dot and changing a woman's life, here's what was posted earlier.... Ciels and Pinks- Michele *************** http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites Please go to this website and click on the pink button (yeah, there IS such a thing ;) in the center. Your click, along with others that day, will fund a free mammogram for an underprivileged woman each day. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO DO THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! IT CAN SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE--your mother, daughter, sister, wife... and please pass this along to everyone you know to do the same. thanks so much...we CAN make a difference! Oh yeah, hope everyone had a great weekend of skydiving (that was the obligatory skydiving mention ;). blue ones, arlo :) -------------------------------- ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 September 23, 2002 Why'd ya delete the post? Its a good cause, it should definately stay up, in this forum. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #11 September 23, 2002 QuoteHi, Arlo. Chill, sweetie. No need to get so upset about it that you take the post away from this forum, too. How can I NOT be upset? Of ALL the people in the world that give a shit, it's skydivers. Maybe I should've added the obligatory women's record stuff to "qualify" it for the RW forum. Maybe I should've mentioned my Jav in the rig forum. But I am in the process of compiling all the stories from all the women, myself included, that have already raised over a quarter of a million dollars to help fight this disease...and some of these stories will rip your heart out. By asking a minute of someone's time to help low-income women...maybe save a life one person at a time....I thought that forum protocol rules would flex just a bit. It wasn't intentional. I never in a million years thought that it would come down to help and awareness VS. forum protocol. I am sitting here in absolute, utter disbelief and to be quite honest, I am appalled. I'm glad that some people weren't so offended with the pub crawls that raised 10K and the bikini jumps that raised (cumulatively) a few thousand dollars. I will continue to try and raise cancer awareness and I WILL continue to conduct fund-raisers and I will continue to care. I've never been one to blow smoke up anyone's ass and I have always said exactly what is on my mind. And right now, my mind is in absolute disbelief. I never thought I'd see the day that posting on another forum would be more important than the potential to save someone's life. So I cuss alot and I am human...I DO get upset and pissed off, but that's just how I am. I feel very strongly about helping people and I won't apologize for feeling like I do about this entire episode. Thank you Michele for your support and thank you to everyone that contributed to funding breast cancer research. By the way, if you'll check out www.jumpforthecause.com, you'll see that the efforts thus far already have funded a room for high tech mammograms. thanks to everyone that has supported this effort and please continue to help in whatever fashion you can...we have to look out for each other. arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #12 September 23, 2002 This same story arrived in my email last week and I have been there faithfully to show my support. This is a dreadful disease and anything we can do to help is a plus! Thanks for posting it here in this forum! J "Suppose you're in a hypothetical situation"--Steve Wechsler -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #13 September 23, 2002 Hi, Arlo! QuoteBut I am in the process of compiling all the stories from all the women, myself included, that have already raised over a quarter of a million dollars to help fight this disease...and some of these stories will rip your heart out. My heart was ripped out and stomped on when Laura died, Arlo. I do understand the compelling aspects, the issues that all women (and men) face regarding this. QuoteIt wasn't intentional. Of course it wasn't. No one is saying is isn't a worthwhile cause, or a stupid thing, or something of that ilk. What was said was simply that if you get it into the right forum, it will be clicked...but there have been many other people who've posted "incorrectly" and had their posts moved. QuoteI am sitting here in absolute, utter disbelief and to be quite honest, I am appalled. Don't be, Arlo. It is appropriate for this forum, but not for photography, or whereever. Making sure you get an audience is important, but "playing within the rules" is also the best way to be heard on a site such as this. If I posted about Laura's death on photography, they'd all go "hmmmm....", and I likely wouldn't get much in the way of support. If I posted here, however, I would expect to be better received, and more support come my way. It's understandable, again, Arlo, especially since you have been touched by breast cancer. It is important, and I thank you again for getting this clicky thing going. QuoteI DO get upset and pissed off, but that's just how I am. I feel very strongly about helping people and I won't apologize for feeling like I do about this entire episode. No one said anything about you owing an apology, and frankly, I don't think you actually owe one to anyone. We all get upset. We all cuss and get a little heated. Lord knows I lose it on occasion too. It's part of the human condition - part of being alive. I adore your aliveness, and think you have a lot to contribute (if I didn't, I would not have managed to post what you deleted in the first place! ). I think, though, that the issue was not a relegation or negation of breast cancer and the ability to contribute, but rather the placement of the clicky on many forums (and I do understand your interest and reasons why...). Hang tough, Arlo. You're valued, and your contributions are not going unnoticed. Rawk on, my friend, rawk on! Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #14 September 23, 2002 QuoteI didn't know that posting to Gear and Rigging about early breast cancer detection would be such a bad thing to do............ It's not a bad thing to do at all. It's simply a practical arrangement to keep a little method in the madness. Think about all the worthy causes that may be out there - fighting AIDS, banning landmines, saving the rain forest, plugging the ozone, tackling famine in Africa, eliminating child labor, battling domestic violence, .... the list would be too long..... If all of them posted to the Gear and Rigging forum on the merits of their cause we'd be hard pressed to say they're doing something "bad". We'd also be hard pressed to find any info on skydiving gear between the noise! No harm done! I know you understand where this is coming from. Keep pushing though - a lot of us have been affected by breast cancer in some way or another. Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites