happythoughts 0 #76 September 23, 2002 "when the ex-insignificant other acts like a total nympho " Everybody has a hobby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #77 September 23, 2002 Ah, thank heavens for velcro glovesWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #78 September 23, 2002 Interesting reading! From a non US point of view, I would say, that one of the main reasons why Bush wants to knock down Sadam, is that he wants the American public to look away from their own domestic problems. Meaning the missing programs to really make the economy change for the better. Also to be able to support the huge lobby of arms manufacturers. (which happen to be all good friends of the Bush family...) But then again, what do we know over here about US politics... ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #79 September 23, 2002 QuoteInteresting reading! From a non US point of view, I would say, that one of the main reasons why Bush wants to knock down Sadam, is that he wants the American public to look away from their own domestic problems. Meaning the missing programs to really make the economy change for the better. Also to be able to support the huge lobby of arms manufacturers. (which happen to be all good friends of the Bush family...) I disagree to an extent.. Let us not forget the 3,000 people that died while at work innocently a year ago that started this whole damned thing rolling.. Americans DEMAND that this doesn't happen again. Bush is doing the right thing fighting terrorism. He has no choice but to remove Saddham. Saddham supports and funds terrorism openly. He must go down.. This isn't about steering away from Domestic problems. It's about preventing more 9/11's. If we don't do exactly that none of us will be alive long enough to clean up our back yards... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #80 September 23, 2002 9/11 was a very unlucky shot by some motherf#@ing camel loving animals. NO country deserves to have something like that happen to it civilians. An army at war is not the issue here. Fact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. The money can be in NY, of Fankfurt or anywhere else. The ones that are calling for attacks like that are located in their clubs, churches, schools all over the world. It's gonna be tough to go an explain why you had to take out a school somewhere in deep shit middle east, just because the 4grad teacher is calling for a jihad against whoever they feel like. It's like a cancer that has spread all over the world and you would be surprised to find out, that even in your own country you can find people, that will support it. There are to many countries out there, that support openly all kind of terrorist cells, just because it serves their cause. (let me NOT point my finger to South and Central America, Ireland or Israel). Just taking out Saddham won't make a dent in the world of terrorism, it will attract some more losers to join the holy war against everything that the Mulah will call upon. ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #81 September 23, 2002 QuoteThe money can be in NY, of Fankfurt or anywhere else Or Klackamus Oregon.....In June or so of 2001 (Long BEFORE 9/11) I sent a letter to my Congressman asking why the Taliban was allowed to raise money right here in the US. Long story but I came across a bank account in Oregon that was a collection point for funding of groups in Chechnya, Palestine, Philippines, etc. Spouting that the money was to "Support Jihad" I was a bit pissed that money was being raised right here. My countries resources going to the "enemy." Well...as you might suspect nothing came of my letter. A few weeks AFTER 9/11 I posted the same thing to the FBI web site. Amazingly, in about a week or so the link was gone and the web site seemed to be having "some problems" LOL. I think they screwed up though....that site had a chat board I used to post to. It MOST CERTAINLY would have been a great source of intel. Lots of posters from countries around the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #82 September 23, 2002 Bingo - so why go waste some great US technology in the dessert of Iraq, if you can use a Agent from the Feds to do the same in the US. Safes you a big chunk of tax money... ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #83 September 23, 2002 QuoteFact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. Israel would disagree.. Saddham pays over $25,000 to terrorist suicide bombers that get on busses and kill your innocent women and children.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #84 September 23, 2002 eye for an eye, life for a life... you killed my son, because he was playing outside my house, in my country - I'll blow myself up to take revenge for him in yours... it's like playing tic tac toe - it's a lose - lose situation ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #85 September 23, 2002 What does an eye for an eye have to do with QuoteFact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. ?????????? Saddham DOES sponsor terrorism.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #86 September 23, 2002 so he does but so do the Saudis and Libya and Syria and Pakistan and Jemen and, and and... eye for an eye? c'mon - you bomb/shoot/knife one of us, we come and kill two of yours. ...sorry I lost count, who's turn is it to kill somebody today? Is it just kids and woman or men too on mondays?... ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #87 September 23, 2002 QuoteQuote This isn't entirely correct. The Wahabbi tradition is actually a subset of the Sunni sect. The Sunni Wahabbi sect originated in Saudi Arabia but they no longer follow its original teachings entirely. Wahabbi teachings, among others, are that all other sects of Islam practice idolatry, no Christian or Jew should be allowed to set foot on the holy land (Arabian Peninsula), and Jihad should be waged against infidels. Bin Laden and the Taliban follow the Wahabbi teachings to the letter. Since we (the US) have troops in the holy land he has declared Jihad against us. The Saudis have not. same point ..good info though Quote This really isn't true either. The originators of the suicide bombing were the Shi'ites. The Sunnis were historically against terrorism until the Isrealis started pushing them around in Lebanon. The Sunni Wahhabi sect is currently mostly attacking US interests. All other terrorist attacks are made up of regular Sunnis and Shi'ites. Well the killing of civilians did not originate with explosives but with blades etc a long time ago. You are right, my bad, some terrorists are maoist (shining path), or anti-establishment (Revolutionary nuclei, IRA, and the ETA) or just weird (aum shinryikyo, Revolutionary United Front, Lords Resistance Army). Hezbollah (shiite) has attacked westerners for "imperial support of zionism" and "anti muslim activities". Turkish "Hizbollah" (unrelated) is Sunni though.... You are right I got that statistic off a very slanted article. Quote Iraq claimed Kuwait based upon historical rights to the land. We did not give him our blessing to attack Kuwait and take it by force. Yes there was an old territorial claim to Kuwaut and Did not Iraq claim a debt owed to it by Kuwait for helping to finance the war against Iran (fundamentalism, the US also provided wepons for this war). Like 10 or 12 billion $. I was under the impression that King Hussein of Jordan (thought to be sympathetic to the West, by Arabs I talked to) also supported him in this claim of debt. QuoteWe helped put Sadamm in power. I've never heard this before. Can you explain a little further? It is thought that the overthrow of Abdul Kassim in 1963 by the Baath part was done with the aid of the CIA to overthrow "leftist intellectuals" , purges left Sadaam in power and supposedly 5000 dead. QuoteWe gave Sadamm the ingredients for nerve agents that he used to kill kurds (one of the..so called mass destruction weapons we are claiming against him now. Where did you get this information from? The US does not sell nerve agent even to our allies. I also never knew that Iraq killed any Kurds with nerve agent. All of the reports I read cited blood and blister agents but no nerve agents. When attacking civilians nerve agent would be overkill and a waste of an expensive weapon. I attached a copy of a blister agent victim from the Kurd attacks. Nerve gas causes no burns. Sarin was identified in 1995 as used on the kurds. Blister agent is cheap (phosgene or Chlorine gas), anyone can get those. Often it is mixed with nerve agent. Sadaam did drop plenty of mustard gas on the kurds too but ingredients for Sarin must come from Western labs and export must be approved. Quote Our lack of any credible reason to attack must mean it is the oil. Why are you ignoring the threats that Iraq poses to our soldiers and interests overseas? obviously al qaeda is/was a greater threat to our troops overseas. than Sadaam hiding behind a no fly zone and economic sanctions. If humanitarian reasons were the real reasons we did things I don't think the rest of the world would hate us so much. I know Sadaam was a prick, but we liked him just fine till he invaded Kuwait"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #88 September 23, 2002 I think he was alluding to "acts of terror" done by Israel. ref: UN resolutions to declare Israel a terrorist state (vetoed by US). Since the intifada started it has been pretty much each side taking turns killing."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #89 September 23, 2002 '9/11 was a very unlucky shot by some motherf#@ing camel loving animals.' Oi, not everyone has access to sheep pin head!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #90 September 23, 2002 And Americans gave $18 M a year to Irish terrorists through NORAID. Yet their web site is still up and running, this war on terror is a crock.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phil 0 #91 September 23, 2002 It's not the money that would be missing to fly them (the sheep) in - so why camel and not sheep? pin head - moi? why? Got a problem with my view of things? ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #92 September 23, 2002 Don't have to bend down for a camel!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phil 0 #93 September 23, 2002 I guess it's also more fun to light a camel (at least for some of us...) ...does anybody have papers?... ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #94 September 23, 2002 Only kidding with the pin head thing, keep your hair on! Actualy i agree with you totaly. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #95 September 23, 2002 To light a camel or alight a camelWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phil 0 #96 September 23, 2002 ...or a camel's delight? ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #97 September 23, 2002 Sorry not the sensitive type, don't care if the Camel got off or notWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phil 0 #98 September 23, 2002 ...you're a selfish b#@tard ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #99 September 23, 2002 So what does this Quoteso he does but so do the Saudis and Libya and Syria and Pakistan and Jemen and, and and... eye for an eye? c'mon - you bomb/shoot/knife one of us, we come and kill two of yours. ...sorry I lost count, who's turn is it to kill somebody today? Is it just kids and woman or men too on mondays?... Have to do with this QuoteFact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. You stated an incorrect fact my friend You kill 2 of ours we will starve your ass and then send in the B52's to carpet bomb Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #100 September 23, 2002 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You stated an incorrect fact my friend I believe he meant to say: Not all terrorists are located in Iraq. Not: All terrorists are not located in Iraq. But I think you knew that and just like arguing for the sake of argument (as if we didn't know that about you already ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 4 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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ramon 0 #88 September 23, 2002 I think he was alluding to "acts of terror" done by Israel. ref: UN resolutions to declare Israel a terrorist state (vetoed by US). Since the intifada started it has been pretty much each side taking turns killing."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #89 September 23, 2002 '9/11 was a very unlucky shot by some motherf#@ing camel loving animals.' Oi, not everyone has access to sheep pin head!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #90 September 23, 2002 And Americans gave $18 M a year to Irish terrorists through NORAID. Yet their web site is still up and running, this war on terror is a crock.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #91 September 23, 2002 It's not the money that would be missing to fly them (the sheep) in - so why camel and not sheep? pin head - moi? why? Got a problem with my view of things? ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #92 September 23, 2002 Don't have to bend down for a camel!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #93 September 23, 2002 I guess it's also more fun to light a camel (at least for some of us...) ...does anybody have papers?... ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #94 September 23, 2002 Only kidding with the pin head thing, keep your hair on! Actualy i agree with you totaly. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #95 September 23, 2002 To light a camel or alight a camelWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #96 September 23, 2002 ...or a camel's delight? ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #97 September 23, 2002 Sorry not the sensitive type, don't care if the Camel got off or notWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #98 September 23, 2002 ...you're a selfish b#@tard ... .. .how high can you fly with broken wings ... life's a journey not a destination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #99 September 23, 2002 So what does this Quoteso he does but so do the Saudis and Libya and Syria and Pakistan and Jemen and, and and... eye for an eye? c'mon - you bomb/shoot/knife one of us, we come and kill two of yours. ...sorry I lost count, who's turn is it to kill somebody today? Is it just kids and woman or men too on mondays?... Have to do with this QuoteFact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. You stated an incorrect fact my friend You kill 2 of ours we will starve your ass and then send in the B52's to carpet bomb Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #100 September 23, 2002 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fact is, that all terrorists are not located in Iraq nor is the money that pays for those bastards. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You stated an incorrect fact my friend I believe he meant to say: Not all terrorists are located in Iraq. Not: All terrorists are not located in Iraq. But I think you knew that and just like arguing for the sake of argument (as if we didn't know that about you already ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
