freeflir29 0 #1 September 23, 2002 I'll reserve any comments...... www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/22/1032055033082.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harro 0 #2 September 23, 2002 This descion did not pass my desk - "Australia's choice is to become a non-enfranchised satellite state of the United States " Jumpy Jumpy?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #3 September 23, 2002 I feel sorry for Margo... The Byiatch... mkingston@smh.com.au I'm sending her a piece of my mind right now... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkbit 0 #4 September 23, 2002 The way I see it, is that everyone always crys for help and then no one wants to say thank you. America is a super power (possibly the last one...except maybe China) and is doing its best to do what is right (don't get me wrong... politicians are the lowest life form next to lawyers (which most politicians started out as) ). You can't please all the people or all of the world all of the time. Just my humble opinion.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You don't quit playing because you get old, you get old because you quit playing" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #5 September 23, 2002 This was my email to Margo, QuoteMargo, What prompted you to write this article?? Why do you feel America is such a land of “Dictatorship”? Because we won’t let our women and children be killed while working or at school? Because we have been FORCED to start preventative maintenance. Because we are changing with the times? Explain how you have been wronged so greatly by my country? AND you should have run a SPELL CHECK before you posted your cheesy manifesto.. At least in America we can spell.. Robert Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #7 September 23, 2002 What a bunch of crap! "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #8 September 23, 2002 Gee... imagine that... people not in the US thinking that we are not supporting the UN (we're not), that we are proping up governments to do what we want not not what thier people want (guilty there too), remind me again why we are getting pissed? Who would have thought that a foriegn country would'nt want the US forcing foriegn policy down their throats? (If your not with us your against us speach) Most that article was pulled from an NYT piece if I remember right. The original piece was scary too from an another view point, insisting the US assist in taking control of contries that were not giving 120% support to us since that means they are clearly not in the "fight against terrorism".Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cam 0 #9 September 23, 2002 ya, that's what i call standing up for freedom and democracy: dismissing other ppl's concerns with 'what a load of rubbish' and 'bitch' i really don't suppose you'll get it but... just fyi, many, many ppl -- not just 'freaks' running round with tea-towels on their heads -- are *angry* at the arrogance, ruthlessness and sheer stupidity of america's current foreign policy. and fucking scared about the price the rest of the world will pay for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #10 September 23, 2002 '.. At least in America we can spell.. ' Incorrect. there was only one spelling mistake in that article, the rest was spelt perfectly as English should be spelt. ie: behaviour not bahavior which is the incorrect spelling. As for the article, I think its a pretty accurate reflection of the way the world sees America today. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #11 September 23, 2002 Incorrect.. Cut and paste the article.. MULTIPLE spelling errors.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #12 September 23, 2002 QuoteThis descion did not pass my desk - "Australia's choice is to become a non-enfranchised satellite state of the United States " I strongly feel Oz should be a fully enfranchised satellite state, and am fully prepared to fight any small country we can overrun before the Friends season premiere this Thursday to support that belief.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 September 23, 2002 I think that most of the errors can be accounted for by the fact that most of the article is written in so called American English and she has written her part in Correct English. Therefore no matter which spellcheck is used errors are highlighted. In English ze is not used at the end of a word but se is. This alone accounts for the majority of what you percive to be errors. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpy 0 #14 September 23, 2002 QuoteQuoteThis descion did not pass my desk - "Australia's choice is to become a non-enfranchised satellite state of the United States " I strongly feel Oz should be a fully enfranchised satellite state, and am fully prepared to fight any small country we can overrun before the Friends season premiere this Thursday to support that belief. ahh crap i don't wanna have to start talking in one of those stupid sounding american accents Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #15 September 23, 2002 Hmm. The thread is really sidetracking here but: >most of the article is written in so called American English and she has >written her part in Correct English. AFAIK the 'so called American English' is taught at schools across the US. Should the americans be calling the two dialects "Correct English" and "British English"? Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #16 September 23, 2002 QuoteI'll reserve any comments...... Common Clay.. Let it out homie... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #17 September 23, 2002 Quoteahh crap i don't wanna have to start talking in one of those stupid sounding american accents Right, off ya go, Mate. Could be worse. We could be from Canada, then you'd have no use whatsoever for the letter U. Doesn't that sound aboot right?Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #18 September 23, 2002 Oh Hoo- Yeah!!! REAL interesting --- spelling and all --- !!! I really love being a capitalist Amercan pig!! We are the richest, and the strongest, therefore we can make all the rules - Right? Does that sum it all up nicely for everyone? Happy Monday!!!!! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #19 September 23, 2002 QuoteCommon Clay.. Let it out homie... Well...The article doesn't necessarily piss me off. She IS right about a lot of things. She is looking at the situation from the outside. If I was a citizen of some other country I might feel this way too. OTOH....None can hardly blame the US for taking steps of self preservation. The time for delicacy in foreign policy has passed. I think Bush is really doing OK. He's pushing forward the countrie's agenda while at least attempting to be diplomatic. It's just two sides of the coin. Outsiders feel threatened. Americans say HELL YEAH. Who's right? Only history will tell..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #20 September 23, 2002 I thought America celebrated the freedom of people to proclaim as true everything that you spend your life fighting against? As for how the world views America. I love America or I won't be moving back there. But don't be surprised, or pissed off if people in many other places in the world simply don't understand or even loath some US policies. People cannot make sense of some of it because it appears to be hypocritical. Nope, America certainly cannot please everyone all the time. But why does it feel like everyone has to please America all the time? Can anyone afford not to without running the risk of being sanctioned either financially or militarily? Or is it just America who has the luxury of not having to please others because it has the largest military in the world? In Africa more people die every day of AIDS than everyone put together on September 11 in the US. I know horror can scarcely be measured using a numbers comparison but this is still happening, it's ongoing, every day. It's a silent killer, it's removed from your TV screens. It terrorizes a continent killing mostly innocent women and children. For years activists have been trying to win world (read mainly US) approval to distribute generic AIDS drugs in Africa. These are much cheaper and would be much more available. Millions of lives could be prolonged or even saved. The US government, together with large corporations have opposed and fought the use of generic AIDS drugs, citing intellectual property (IP) and patent violations. AIDS vaccines can be manufactured and distributed for 1/10th of their current price. The South African government deserves credit for withstanding over the last several years massive pressure from the Clinton-Gore administration, the European Union and the drug companies themselves. Recently 39 multinational brand-name drug corporations (supported by the US government) dropped their suit against the government of South Africa to pave the way for the use of generic AIDS drugs. Shortly after the first anthrax letters were opened in the US Sen. Charles Schumer, D-NY, said existing law allows the federal government to purchase generic Cipro, the antibiotic most often mentioned as an anthrax treatment, bypassing the commercial patent held by the German pharmaceutical giant Bayer. That was fast! I know the whole issue of IP and patents and the funding of research is much more complex that my little simplification above. But for people dying in Africa, it's even simpler than that. They look at this and say: "Wow, I guess life is more important in the US. It's different when it's your people dying." They look at this and ask: "With all this money we're spending fighting the war on terrorism, are we fighting the right wars?" Then they look at this new national security strategy document and they ask: "What was that part about human dignity again?" Don't see this as an "America bad, the rest good" post. People fear America may be loosing perspective from staring at its navel for too long. My understanding is that America was founded on diversity of thought and tolerance of descent. Nowadays the world unfortunately too often see a mentality that seem to suggest: All the freedoms and responsibilities of the US constitution we bestow on our people, and on you... whether you want it or not, and if you don't we'll kick the shit out of you till you understand and proclaim that you actually do want it! Hold your hand against you nose and see if you can focus on it. You need to move it away a bit before you can see what was right in your face. (Disclaimer: There may be several spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in my post. I can speak your language. Can you speak mine?)Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 September 23, 2002 Dialect? Just because Americans can't spell the Queens English doesn't mean they have created a dialect. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #22 September 23, 2002 QuoteI really love being a capitalist Amercan pig!! We are the richest, and the strongest, therefore we can make all the rules - Right? Does that sum it all up nicely for everyone? Yup, and that's why people fly jetliners into your office towers. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #23 September 23, 2002 Nice post HH. As you can see from my previous one I DO understand. QuoteI can speak your language. Can you speak mine? Nope...not a HUGE call for speaking Afrikaans here.... I'm much better off with Spanish..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #24 September 23, 2002 Quote As you can see from my previous one I DO understand. Ek weet jy verstaan ou maat. Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 September 23, 2002 While I agree with your post I think that this bit 'My understanding is that America was founded on diversity of thought and tolerance of descent. ' Was a bit romantic. I thought that America was founded on the back of a strong slave trade, the genocide of the Native American and the theft of vast parts of Mexico.' When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
