CarrieFisher 0 #26 September 23, 2002 ain't a troll. too many people keep glossing over dumbass phuckups with lame excuses. If you see somebody doing something that might very likely get the guy killed, are you just gonna say 'it's a troll' or phucking speak up & try to prevent someone from killing thierself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #27 September 23, 2002 Here's a question. Why are CarrieFisher and several other "anonymous" accounts, each of whom has posted no more than 3 times, each of whom are posting what appear to be trolls or outright slashes at people, all posting through Earthlink? I really expected those IP addresses to come back to AOL, all things considered. Things that make me say hmmm.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #28 September 23, 2002 Quoteain't a troll. Then why are you afraid to post who you really are?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #29 September 23, 2002 TROOOOOOOOll in the dungeon........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #30 September 23, 2002 QuoteThen why are you afraid to post who you really are? Does it matter? Is it so important to put a real name to a screen name? Does not doing so make the point any less valid? Some people are more comfortable behind whatever amount of anonymity the 'net provides. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #31 September 23, 2002 QuoteDoes it matter? Is it so important to put a real name to a screen name? Does not doing so make the point any less valid? Some people are more comfortable behind whatever amount of anonymity the 'net provides. Perhaps, but anonymous posting is a sure-fire way to: A) remove any trace of credibility from your post B) not be taken seriously by other users any others people want to add?A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #32 September 23, 2002 QuoteDoes it matter? Is it so important to put a real name to a screen name? Does not doing so make the point any less valid? Well, in a word, yes. It speaks to credibility. If Bill Booth comes on this or any other forum and tells me there is an issue with a Relative Workshop rig, then I'll take that as credible without further question. If a person posts anonymously and makes accusations about other people's right to say certain things or how things should be said, then I'm pretty much going to ignore him completely other than in watching out for that person from a Moderator's point of view. Anonymous posters have NO credibility in my book and for the most part I see them as cowards that either have a personal vendetta or simply want to create controversy without recriminations to themselves.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #33 September 23, 2002 Well put Quark. I couldn't agree more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #34 September 23, 2002 QuoteSome people are more comfortable behind whatever amount of anonymity the 'net provides. Which ain't much....but I guess the poster doesn't realize that.... Quoteall posting through Earthlink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clrarch 0 #35 September 23, 2002 QuoteIf you see somebody doing something that might very likely get the guy killed, are you just gonna say 'it's a troll' or phucking speak up & try to prevent someone from killing thierself? How is saying someone was a candidate for Darwin award going to prevent accidents or death? It's your right to honestly express your opinion, but saying someone got what he/she deserved doesn't teach anyone anything valuable about preventing it in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #36 September 23, 2002 Man, there was this guy at our DZ once who exited the Cessna THREE miles before the..... Oh yes, that was me... Yep, I agree with Eric - if you fuck up you take the consequences. Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #37 September 23, 2002 Quoteif you fuck up you take the consequences Come on Skreamer...we know it wasn't your fault. We saw the sheep in the video..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #38 September 23, 2002 At least he had his sheep awareness while in freefall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #39 September 23, 2002 I think the point of the letters wasn't that the cause of the death and mistakes made shouldn't be discussed, but what usefull purpose does it serve to post a quote from someone calling a recently deceased person, "a dumbass". Especially when there's a pretty good chance that a fair amount of that persons friends will probably read it. I think an objective account of what caused the accident including details of the specific mistakes made by the person is fine and beneficial. But who does it help to print that kind of comment? "Hey Joe, did you hear that they called Frank a dumbass because he killed himself hooking it in? I heard about why he died and was going to keep hooking anyway, until I heard that they call you a dumbass if you kill yourself that way." Does that sound like a reasonable line of thought? Personally, I don't have a problem with peoples choice of language or expression of opinions. But how about a little tact when dealing with a recently departed member of our community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #40 September 23, 2002 Look Clay, what's the problem? Every single one of those sheep was of a consenting age, (even the female ones). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous 0 #41 September 23, 2002 I'm gonna have to agree w/ Jimbo on this one. Some people are more comfortable remaining anonymous, be it that they're shy, or asking a question that would immediatly identify them, and the subject of their post, should their name be known. So be it. Regardless of the subject, a true Troll's purpose is to raise the ire of others on the forum. Any, and I mean ANY, response to said message only feeds said troll. So if you think it's a troll, it's much easier and faster to simply click to the next thread. Remember, he/she just wants a response, regardless of the type of response. No responses = Dead Troll. I've noticed, in by brief time here and of course recdot for quite a while, that there are certain people that simply can't wait to blast what they consider a trollish post. In the case of a true troll, your doing exactly what the poster desires. In the case of a valid post by a timid individual, who at this time is probably new to the forum and making a 'test' post, your just driving em away. BSBD - Larry'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #42 September 23, 2002 QuoteYep, I agree with Eric - if you fuck up you take the consequences. I agree with Eric too, to a point, but I now know if I ever land in a tree not to tell him. "Jessica, how did you break your leg?" "Ummmmm Tonya Harding." Seriously, if I know I'm going to get berated that badly, I'm not going to share with the class, and that could keep someone else from learning from my error. But then, I'm sensitive and fragile.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clrarch 0 #43 September 23, 2002 True, everyone has a different comfort level....but, "CarrieFisher" doesn't sound like he/she (wookie?) is very shy, IMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #44 September 23, 2002 QuoteIf you do something stupid and get hurt... you better damn well expect to be called stupid or worse. So says the man that jumps out of perfectly good airplanes.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carbonezone 0 #45 September 23, 2002 <<>> oh the o-so-mighty carriefisher speaks again...you are so cool....i only wish i had 1/2 of your words of wisdom....i salute your MOUTH carriefisher!! Hey didnt i just see your type slapping the shit out out of kid on tv.....that will teach them to be a kid. PUNK NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK.....JUST MY WORDS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carbonezone 0 #46 September 23, 2002 Hello Luminous You are right as far as feeding the trolls...but sometimes i just cant help it....call me weak.... Blues, Tami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous 0 #47 September 23, 2002 True. I didn't say it wasn't a troll. I just find it funny that the people who whine and complain about 'no name' post are just encouraging the person to continue. oh, and I disagree with the text of the original post. If I think someones fuckin up, I tell em. Sometimes I'm less than tactfull about it. (workin on that). While I still feel sympathy toward someone laying in a hospital bed all broken up because they decided to hook it in to impress the girlfriend, that doesn't change the fact that they did indeed fuck up. And the majority of the time, that person knows it. oh well, I rant and rave. Have a GREAT evening/morning/day (depending on your time zone).'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carbonezone 0 #48 September 23, 2002 i read about you hee-hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #49 September 23, 2002 QuoteSome people are more comfortable remaining anonymous, be it that they're shy, or asking a question that would immediatly identify them, and the subject of their post, should their name be known. So be it. Nope. Sorry. I'm not buying it. If you say something in a public forum, you should -have- to be accountable for what you say. Otherwise the rules of civility go out the door and slander becomes an acceptable form of expression. Pretty much the only way a person can be accountable for their actions is if you know who they actually are -- otherwise they'll just run away, create a "new" identity and do it again. If somebody is too shy to post under their their real identity, then I'm sorry, but I can give no credibility to that person no matter what point they're trying to make.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous 0 #50 September 23, 2002 Hi Tami Congrats to you & Scotty! We miss you two! Brad & I were just talking about that yesterday, Spaceland just ain't the same. See you sometime.'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
