Pammi 0 #1 September 29, 2002 I was trying to find more on the story, but haven't been able to yet...anyone hear more about a bunch of Camp Lejeune's rigs having the lines cut to the mains? Was curious if they figured out who or why? Pam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #2 September 29, 2002 Cut in what way ? to cause a total ? or more obvious than that, ie: vandalized ? -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #3 September 30, 2002 Pammi, I heard this on the news the other night. Several (like 4 or 5) military jumpers had reserve rides dur to cut suspension lines on the main. Inspection of gear on the rack revealed quite a few more (like 20 some). As is common with our news coverage here, we hear the start, but never get a follow up, I haven't heard anymore since. So I guess I am really not that much of a help Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 0 #4 September 30, 2002 Here is the full story. I hope they figure out who did it! http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/4174173.htm Luna I'm walking a marathon to raise money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. Click Here for more information! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #5 September 30, 2002 Have they repacked all the reserves, I wonder? Seems like it would be time consumptive but important to determine if the saboteur had access to the reserves. I wonder what kind of person would do such a gawdawful thing? Ciels and Pinks- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #6 September 30, 2002 I have a suspicion we may never know. When the military investigates this stuff, the outcome hardly ever is brought public. If it is, it is usually 3-6 months later and very vague. I am dying of curiosity as well, but not holding my breath.Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pd190 0 #7 September 30, 2002 Here is the story how I heard it...... 5 main parachutes (MC1-1C's, round mains) were jumped with severe line cuts (cut with a pair of scissors) which resulted in reserve rides. The Naval Criminal Investigation Service (NCIS) is on the case. Basically, they are still interviewing everyone who had been in that loft within the past three to four months. This action resulted in just about every parachute in Camp Swampy getting an inspection. There is some rumored speculation going around base, but I don't want to pass on any scoop from the network that may not be true. I didn't hear if anyone got seriously hurt, but how easy can a reserve ride from less than 1,500 ft set you down? Hopefully, NCIS will find the individual (s) and pin their balls (or lack there of) to a 2x4! If I hear any updates, I'll try to pass them on. Right now there is very little info because its still under investigation. I seriously doubt that much will be revealed, but we will keep our ears open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #8 September 30, 2002 Thanks for the info! It's like ya all said, we may never hear any more about it, but I was just curious if anyone knew more then was being put out by the news. Forgive me for probably a stupid question, but why would you do that? To scare them? I would think whomever did it would know they have a reserve that they are going to use. Obviously the chances of getting hurt or killed are higher by taking you down to your last chance, the reserve, from the start, but if you wanted to kill some people, then you'd hit the reserve and the main. I'm just puzzled. Maybe it was just simple vandalism with no real meaning :/ Pam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #9 September 30, 2002 Probably some sick fock who is working his way up from drowning kittens and didn't want to make the big leap (so to speak) to outright murdering humans all at once. Either that or someone who was about to do jump training and really really didn't want to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #10 September 30, 2002 QuoteI would think whomever did it would know they have a reserve that they are going to use Fairly often the Army will have cases of a S/L break and the stooper dooper paratrooper doesn't bother to pull his reserve. You don't have a whole lot of time and this would be DAMN dangerous. Obviously, someone needs a hobby and a good ass kickin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #11 September 30, 2002 You would be surprised how often stuff like this actually happens. Around Fort Bragg, something of the sort happens at least once a year. The culprit is generally a totally disgruntled lower-ranking parachute rigger who is just pissed at the hours he or she must keep and the heavy workload. Our rigger shed sometimes works three shifts, all night long, no weekends off, for weeks at a time. Sooner or later, someone is either going to go AWOL, try to commit suicide, or start destroying equipment as a "cry for help" or whatever. The inpatient psych ward at Womack army hospital has a never ending supply of young riggers who failed at their attempt to commit suicide. It's a sad state of affairs. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #12 September 30, 2002 Wow...sounds like the packers at XKeys I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Hopefully none of them read this and cut my lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #13 September 30, 2002 We had a similar F*#@ at Fort Bragg where I was stationed who named himself Mickey in the log books. I even had a buddy of mine on a jump who against regs looked at his log for the last packers name and it said Mickey. Back around 97- 2000' when I was there this was just getting resolved and the F*#@ was imprisoned. I was doing a night jump and for sum reason they had us gearing up out in the flight line where there wasn't a lot of light. So it was hard to really inspect your equipment with such little light. Well it just so happened a Jump Master from my Company was inspecting a soldiers' static line and everything looked good to him but, "something inside didn't feel right about it," he later said. Upon closer inspection with a flashlight the static line had been partially cut on the back side and put back in such a manner that it was almost impossible to have detected during the inspection. The cut was placed in the right place as to be covered by the retainer bands that stow the static line. An investigation was done and it was determined if the soldier had jumped that rig the static line would have snapped from all the weight causing a complete mal. At an exit altitude of 800 agl it quite possibly could have killed him. After hearing of this even before the jump many of us where almost going to be jump refusal until our gear could be inspected in better light. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites