QuickDraw 0 #26 October 18, 2002 An just remember..it ain't them sheeps fault either...so take it easy on em -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #27 October 18, 2002 That's all fine and dandy unless your Ex takes the children from Tn and establishes Jurasdiction in another state.. Then you are fucked.. That is what happened to me.. My Ex took my son from Tn.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #28 October 18, 2002 Clay, No matter what you need my friend I am here for you. I know how much this sucks... Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #29 October 18, 2002 Quote That's all fine and dandy unless your Ex takes the children from Tn and establishes Jurasdiction in another state.. Then you are fucked.. That is what happened to me.. The state keeps jurisdiction for 6 months. Because my 1st lawyer is a complete idiot He almost lost it for me. I was in his office on Nov 13 (The day after I got back in the country) and signed the paperwork. I told him to file it IMMEDIATELY. He waited until something like Dec 5th. That ended up to be about 6 months and 1 week. I had to go to court to keep jurisdiction. The judge WAS NOT impressed with my ex wife's antics. She ruled inmy favor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #30 October 18, 2002 Sounds like you have it in the bag my friend... Keep pushing.. Tell your attorney if he fucks you again you will file a grievance on him.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #31 October 18, 2002 Clay: been through it, it's not right now, nor will it ever be. in my experience. rhino and myself have had extensive conversations about this, heres the kicker, 90% of these cases are decided by MALE judges. they have "tunnel vision" and refuse to pull their head out of their anal orifices. i've been divorced since 1986, and i thought, "Thank you Jesus" i'm done with her, it was just beginning. all i can say, is don't give up, and try to make as much noise as you can, so maybe this generation of fathers can make a difference for the future generations. but then again, there's always that cruise that leaves off of the florida coast....makes for a good aliby anyways! J/K --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #32 October 18, 2002 Quote 90% of these cases are decided by MALE judges. they have "tunnel vision" and refuse to pull their head out of their anal orifices Yep...I'm very lucky and very happy to have a FEMALE judge that has little patience for people that totally ignore the law. Which my ex-wife has done quite a bit. I got very good vibes from her last time I was in her court. I don't think she likes, respects, or has any sympathy for my ex. It seems that she will almost enjoy me taking her to the cleaners. I know I will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #33 October 18, 2002 QuoteIt seems that she will almost enjoy me taking her to the cleaners. I know I will. Clay: i'll tell you what i told rhino: "once you get your foot on her kneck, don't let up" it's truly sad that family affairs have to get that way, but 9 out of 10 times it's insisted upon. i tried everything i could to be reasonable with my ex, because of my two children, but she was having none of it, she had to do things the hard way, now since 1998, four attorneys and $225,000.00 later, we finally come to a resolution. (at my expense of course) i'm not saying that it's the female that wants to be difficult all the time, i'm saying it's the female that wants to be difficult most of the time, generally just for vindictive measures, they can't whoop your ass, so they "drag you through the mud" if divorced couples were allowed to handle their own affairs, without the court's being involved, i do believe we'd have a "smoother transition" during these trying times that some of us go through. it's definitely a sign of the "declination of family values/morals" juges are so used to giving the female everything by "default" they've become complacent in their decision making process. i'm glad things are going your way, your in way better shape than i ever was. good luck, take care, best wishes...always.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #34 October 18, 2002 Quote at my expense of course Not that I ever expect to actually get it but she will be responsible for the $10,000 or so this case has cost me per my divorce decree plus child support once I get custody. It'll certainly be nice to be rolling her for cash like she has done to me since 1997. The money isn't so much the point really. Just the fact that my son can grow up like he should instead of the conditions he is subjected to at the moment. Besides....I still have a law suit to file once this case is done. Money shouldn't be a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #35 October 18, 2002 Quote...they can't whoop your ass, so they "drag you through the mud" ... ...if divorced couples were allowed to handle their own affairs, without the court's being involved, i do believe we'd have a "smoother transition" during these trying ... I just have to put in a plug for dealing with things yourself. I'm a female. I'm really a pretty nice person (not all ex-wives are awful), and could have (as they say) whooped his ass any way but physically. Just the reality. I'd taken care of all dr. appointments, school stuff, shopping, house stuff, etc the whole time we were married and separated. We each made up a list. My ex moved close by, and our son went to live with him (needed his dad, and dad hadn't been real interested up until then). The divorce cost $800. There's only 3 digits in that number, and there were cars, houses, and retirement accounts involved. If you're contemplating divorce, I can tell you from my own experience that ALMOST anything you give up for a cordial relationship is worth it. Not anything, but dang close. Yes, it took eating words and feelings sometimes. I didn't get everything I wanted, I could have gotten a lot more legally. But I got what I wanted most -- a good relationship with an emotionally healthy son. I realize this thread is about venting, and that not all ex-wives are reasonable human beings. Some are pretty awful, and some judges and systems are indeed unfair. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #36 October 18, 2002 Quote But I got what I wanted most -- a good relationship with an emotionally healthy son Wow...a woman with sense....you are a rare breed indeed. Seriously, my ex doesn't think about or even understand the welfare of a child. It's all what she needs and wants. Good on you for looking out for your child. I don't think a lot of people do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #37 October 18, 2002 QuoteBesides....I still have a law suit to file once this case is done. Money shouldn't be a problem. You and me both brother... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #38 October 18, 2002 Wendy: i applaud your "common sense" ethic in this matter. for these situations to change, we must all, male and female work towards the common goal. as for me, i shall never (if i divorce again for some reason) marry again...without a pre-nup agreement. my ex since 1986 has intentionally worked part time (20 hours a week) and her new (well since 1986) "lover boy has NEVER had a job. i've gone on, and done well for myself, and she hates that, she wants my $$$ but she don't want me, this is wrong...very wrong. i picked myself up, dusted myself off, and got on with it, she on the other hand has had an "ax to grind" ever since the divorce, most of it $$$ driven. i have noticed with my research over the years husbands who are lower incomes, don't get hassled a lot, but those of us who are middle-upper class earning brackets often get "taken to the cleaners" my ex, in fact sued me on behalf of the minor children, she didn't get everything she wanted, but what she got wasn't hers, or theirs. end of rant.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #39 October 18, 2002 What would you have the prenup say?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #40 October 18, 2002 Quote What would you have the prenup say? Anything you want it to! You can specify that you take EVERYTHING with you if you leave. Houses, cars, kids, etc. That's what I will do if I ever do something so stupid again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #41 October 18, 2002 Rhino: Clay "hit the nail on the head" dead on to what i would ask for, no prenup, no "i do's" that S.S.S. (short, simple, specific) leave no "grey" area....ever. burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice...shame on me. --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #42 October 18, 2002 Quote ***That's what I will do if I ever do something so stupid again. My roommate and I have an agreement. If we ever decide to get married again, the other roommate will sit them down in a chair and reasonably discuss the pros/cons with them. If they insist on getting married, the other roommate puts a gun in their ear and pulls the trigger. In that way, they get all the pain over with in one blinding flash, instead of dragging it out for years.You just have to think it over reasonably, that's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #43 October 18, 2002 Quote You just have to think it over reasonably, that's all. I would be smart enough to do it myself.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
