would you jump this?

[kingbunky 3]

i suppose if i had no other alternative i might try it, but this. looks a little cheesy to me... i like the part where it says it is made of "F111 "zero porosity" rip stop nylon". of course it is only for executives

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[christoofar 0]

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i suppose if i had no other alternative i might try it, but this. looks a little cheesy to me... i like the part where it says it is made of "F111 "zero porosity" rip stop nylon". of course it is only for executives

Not without a belly mount I wouldn't. Safe my ass!

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[freeflir29 0]

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This canopy holds the following certifications : UAV, AFNOR, DHV, SHV

WTF are those? I would just buy a sorcerer and be done with it.

[ernokaikkonen 0]

>The attachment loop is covered with a Teflon sheath, to
>protect it from dangerous friction which may occur during deployment

Yeah gotta watch put for that dangerous friction...

I'd prefer one of those escape chutes made by some BASE manufacturers.

[wmw999 2,584]

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i suppose if i had no other alternative i might try it, but this. looks a little cheesy to me... i like the part where it says it is made of "F111 "zero porosity" rip stop nylon". of course it is only for executives

Looks better than the alternative, or an umbrella. I'd use it in a heartbeat, given what it's designed for. Of course, on the ground floor of a 2-story building, it's not going to be an issue too soon...
Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[christoofar 0]

If I was an executive... would I jump some $900 untested-in-an-actual-emergency shit or just get a nice base rig?

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[ChileRelleno 0]

Like it says "last alternative", I think I'd go with the H.O.P.E. Aerial Egress instead of the of the Executive System.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Thats the same product that was on GMA last year and the assistant could'nt get it on properly. Its basically a nonvented paraglider reserve that oscolates really bad and you have a better chance with out it. If you've seen parajumpers swinging under canopy think about adding another 5 feet in each direction to the swing. It also collapses if the ocsalations get too bad.

It deploys via static line, that the instructions say to tie to a chair or desk. Its vacum packed so it does'nt need repacking and it tends to have an uncontroled drive that changes direction at the slightest swing.

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[bvsdjumper 0]

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The skirt is reinforces with 1" mil spec. nylon tape...

I hope they have better quality control in the construction of the thing than they do the Web site.
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[rgoper 0]

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it tends to have an uncontroled drive that changes direction at the slightest swing.

you've jumped one then? i've always wanted to, please post the results from your experience with this particular piece of equipment.

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[howardwhite 6]

http://www.executivechute.com/

[DJL 235]

I was just looking at that web-site and finally just had to quit the window because the shameless profiteering was making me sick.

-Doug

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[christoofar 0]

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I was just looking at that web-site and finally just had to quit the window because the shameless profiteering was making me sick.

-Doug

Yeah those BES (Building Escape Systems) amount to not more than just your average capitalism. They might as well do one of those TV ads like you see for the Clapper with Tony Little jumping from Reunion Plaza in Dallas.

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[PhreeZone 20]

I've never jumped one, but a good review of the history of parachutes explains why unvented round canopies are not a good choice for predictibility. Look at the video and see the person swinging under it and watch the canopy drive each time they swing.

Also since this product is only a 18 foot narrow depth canopy expect the landing to be harder then and T10 or other military canopy. Most Paraglider/glider reserves are designed to use the lift/drag of the wing in addition to the reserve to set some one down safely. Thats why unvented is ok in this application since all its doing is adding more material to get you down slower.

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[waster 0]

"landing results acceptable". What is acceptable? Broken legs, arms, ribs? I'd rather put on a thick coat, jump and hope to land in a soft bush.

[rgoper 0]

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I've never jumped one

then would it be fair to say your post has no merit other than from an observational, or speculative point of view? i'm really quite curious, mainly because i think the system "could" have saved a lot of lives on 09/11/2001, should they have been improvised.

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"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[rgoper 0]

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What is acceptable?

acceptable=alive, with a chance to keep living.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Go back and read the archives... some of the canopy makers posted why these are such a bad idea. Specifically http://www.dropzone.com/news/BuildingEscapeParachutes.shtml Dan, Bill and Chris all mentioned how bad of an idea this system is. They also went into the details of why its so bad like the decent rate is more then enough to snap legs, all you'd end up with is a large pile of broke bodies next to the building harming the chances of rescuers getting inside and preventing running away from the building.

So no... I'd say my post has a lot of merit

Also see And this one and even this one all are good threads.

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[riddler 0]

I think every executive should demo one of these, starting with CEOs and working down from there.

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[rgoper 0]

would you agree that you'd rather take a chance with this equipment, or simply jump out of the window from 100+ stories, and "hope for the best?" i saw live, in color people jumping from the twin towers, "if only" i've already read the article, it just seemed that you had enough knowlege about the system, i just figured maybe you had jumped one is all.

--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[Guest]

i suppose if i had no other alternative i might try it, but this. looks a little cheesy to me... i like the part where it says it is made of "F111 "zero porosity" rip stop nylon". of course it is only for executives

Yeah. The worker bees have to use bedsheets.

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[wmw999 2,584]

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would you agree that you'd rather take a chance with this equipment, or simply jump out of the window from 100+ stories, and "hope for the best?"

Here's a link that will probably be a lot more useful than an executive parachute. There are precious few unsurvivable fires in high-rises. Yes, the twin towers qualified. But not a lot of others. I'm going to concentrate on the likely...
http://www.redstone.army.mil/safety/fire/hotelfire.htm
Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[homer 0]

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i think the system "could" have saved a lot of lives on 09/11/2001, should they have been improvised.

Can you imagine 2000 people using these to get out. There would be hundreds kill just from the intanglements resulting in a burn in. If you have ever jumped a round like I have some 2 dozen times you can't have anybody below you. If a round goes under another round the top jumper will have lost his air due to the burble, resulting in his canopy collapsing. He will then fall till he has past the lower jumper thus taking his air. This is called a leap frog and you do not want to be the the last one to leap. I have seen this first hand and there landing is not pretty.

Yes the idea of an escape chute is a good idea. I feel if it had been used on 9/11 it would have caused more harm than good, unless you were the last one out and all those who burned in before you broke your fall.

CSA #699 Muff #3804

[wmw999 2,584]

About round canopy "leapfrogging"
huh? That's interesting, because I've never seen it. I'm not in the least doubting you have, I'm just surprised. I jumped round canopies exclusively for about 6 years, and have done round-round CRW. Looking at the picture posted of the mass drop during WW2 or any of the Airborne exercises, and I wonder how rare it is. I still agree that this particular system isn't the best thing, that entanglements and injuries are likely. I can't imagine investing in one.
Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[SBS 0]

if it meant the difference between possible life and certain death, I'd jump a bedsheet. :)

-S

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