fear of flying

[diverdriver 7]

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"Do you see me wrecking on every other landing?"
Oh man, that's like challenging the Fates with a 'Come on, I dare ya!' - then again SDC does have other planes - so I guess it wouldn't be too long a wait for another load.

LOL.......yah right.

[FliegendeWolf 0]

Okay, yeah... But I've seen the way you diverdrivers land the jump planes! Now, I've never taken any pilot training or anything, but I'm pretty sure that there's supposed to be something called a base leg in the pattern. None of this 45 degree angle descent whipping around from downwind to final crap!

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[rgoper 0]

Free:

just got through with a transatlantic flight to the middle east. a rig will do you no good at 40K if anything happens, it'll more than likely be an explosion and everybody will die, not time for a rig, in the event ther is no explosion, and mechanical failure, the jets move too fast to bail, you'd be killed on exit anyway, plus it would be hard to put your rig on while the plane is in a spiral, or listing one way or another. just relax, everythings kewel! with the heightned security, and mechanical awareness, air travel really is the safest means of transportation. have a safe, and fun trip, and just relax!

--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[nacmacfeegle 0]

She should be grateful she doen't have to fly to work in the egg beaters we are more used to, eh Rich?

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[diverdriver 7]

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Okay, yeah... But I've seen the way you diverdrivers land the jump planes! Now, I've never taken any pilot training or anything, but I'm pretty sure that there's supposed to be something called a base leg in the pattern. None of this 45 degree angle descent whipping around from downwind to final crap!

LOL.......wasn't me.

"I saw you!"

Hey, wasn't me......

"Maybe it wasn't you.

DD skills and jedei mind tricks go hand in hand. rofl

[FliegendeWolf 0]

Hmm... maybe it wasn't you... LOL

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[PhreeZone 20]

Just practicing the one engine out landings some more huh Chris? Thats the most commonly heard excuse I've seen pilots use

Yesterday is history
And tomorrow is a mystery

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[freebird 0]

I will relax after my little orange pill. Last time we flew the plane shook the whole time. Maybe this is why Im more apprehensive this time.

[FliegendeWolf 0]

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Just practicing the one engine out landings some more huh Chris?
Thats the most commonly heard excuse I've seen pilots use

And especially funny since I've been jumping from a Caravan!

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[rgoper 0]

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She should be grateful she doen't have to fly to work in the egg beaters we are more used to, eh Rich?

Dave:

actually i had a really good plane a 767, the bad thing is, is my company is too cheap to fly me buisness class, and those kids! jeez! i've raised mine already!! screaming, crying running all over the place, the KLM flight attendant(s) finally had enough and made the parents take control, but it was a repetative process. other than a few turbulence in clouds the plane rode good, 560 mph+ downside as i said was flying coach....yuck! but we've talked about that, it's business class for ol rich from now on, after this next flight home. i'm still in saudi, near Haradh, will be leaving here the morning of the 27th, go to Bahrain, do some shopping, then catch a flight stateside monday morning about 01:15 hours. see ya! take care.

--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[GrumpySmurf 0]

I'm still waiting for him to swoop the hanger with the Otter

[billvon 3,111]

>it'll more than likely be an explosion and everybody will die, not time
> for a rig . . .

Agreed there.

>in the event ther is no explosion, and mechanical failure, the jets
> move too fast to bail, you'd be killed on exit anyway . . .

Naah. I (and many others) have exited at 230mph; ejection seat testing has exposed people in normal aviator's clothing (i.e. no face shield) to 500mph wind and they've survived. Heck, people have hit 350 mph in freefall with normal gear. You might dislocate a few joints if you present oddly (which is likely) and you're at risk for an out of sequence deployment unless you have excellent protection on your gear, but it won't be the high speed air that kills you.

Now, getting out - there's the problem. Rare is the in-flight emergency that presents you with a handy aircraft egress.

[rgoper 0]

Bill:

agreed, but i was referring to a situation in which the cabin has not been depressureized, and you kick open an emergency exit, you'd be forceably "sucked" from the aircraft, (along with others) with such a force, almost surely unsurvivable.

--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[wildblue 7]

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Now, getting out - there's the problem. Rare is the in-flight emergency that presents you with a handy aircraft egress.

What? You don't take a crash-axe as part of your carry-on luggage??

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

[riddler 0]

I took my mom on an observer ride on the Otter from Eloy. After I jumped they dived the plane. My mom didn't think that was all that safe
But free, you go out of jumps planes all the time. No offense to DD, but I think that commercial pilots typically have a lot more training and experience than jump pilots (I'm sure there are exceptions). And I trust my life to most jump pilots, so why not a commercial pilot?
BTW - if you're going to Mexico, they'll likely have margaritas on the flight, which taste better than pills. I always take one or two early on in the flight and get the vacation off to a good start

Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD

[dreamsville 0]

Look out the window and fantisize about skydiving. It's really quite pleasant. Have your favorite beverage while doing this.

Harry

I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane.

Harry, FB #4143

[nws01 0]

I do the same Harry. I love to fly and look out the window and daydream.

[happythoughts 0]

"Hmmm...well folks, some of you may not make it, so you sign my
logbook now?"

[diverdriver 7]

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Look out the window and fantisize about skydiving. It's really quite pleasant. Have your favorite beverage while doing this.

Harry

Or heck, just fantasize and get video!

[pilotdave 0]

The scariest flying to me is takeoff in a jump plane. Airline flying and private flying don't bother me, but jump planes do. I remember sitting against the forward bulkhead in a packed otter one time thinking that if we had a nosegear collapse or came to a sudden stop for some reason, all those people with loose seatbelts in front of me are going to completely crush me. I'd be totally helpless. At a CASA boogie a few weeks ago we lifted off and stayed low over the runway building speed, a standard soft field takeoff. But instead of climbing out, we settled back down and hit the ground. No big deal except that the end of the runway was approaching pretty fast. I looked out the window to the left and saw trees right next to us. The way the runway is shaped, the trees on the left side start a little before the end of the runway but I knew we were damn close. The pilot suddenly pulled up, climbed at a steeper than normal angle, cleared the trees, then resumed a normal climb. I have no idea how close we were, but thats probably the most scared I've been in a jump plane since my first jump. I just don't like the complete feeling of helplessness I have when the heavy plane, on the short runway, is in someone elses hands and I don't know whats going to happen and I have no way of stopping it. Gear's not gonna help on takeoff!

Dave

[dbattman 0]

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Last time we flew the plane shook the whole time. Maybe this is why Im more apprehensive this time.

Awww! Those are the best flights! I love a little turbulence on the airplane. Course I get some VERY dirty looks when we hit an air pocket and I stick my hands up like I'm at Six Flags. Wheeeee!

[christoofar 0]

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Ok you whiny skydivers. I land with the plane all the time. Every load. Do you see me wrecking on every other landing? No, it's part of the package. I hear it all the time "Oh! (whaaaaa) I'm never landing with the plane. It's soooo scary. I'll jump before I ever have to land with the plane. I feel naked without my rig.......whaaaaa". LOL..........oh suck it up already. You jump from a plane into freefall but landing with the airplane is what really scares you? People are so funny. Driving on the highway at 85 mph with other large metal objects around them in close proximety doesn't scare them but they'll abandon a house if they see a mouse scurrying around. LOL.......bahahahhahahah
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[SpeedRacer 1]

well, if you've got turbulence on a commercial flight, you need to get the pilot to take the plane up higher... and you know how to do that, right, Freebird??

Speed Racer
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[GrumpySmurf 0]

Had one of those in 1999 when the Packers did an pre-season exhibition game at Camp Randall here in Madison.
It was when AA was still using these tiny turboprops, and a severe front was moving through with some pretty serious thunderstorms - after 3 hours of waiting, they finally let us up in the air - get this, the pilot got on the PA and said, "Folks, since we are going to be dodging thunderstorms from here to Chicago, the flight attendant will not be getting out of her seat. We also require that you stay in your seat until we are safely at the the terminal." That had to be the wildest ride I've ever had a plane - headrush central. I figured it didn't matter which way the plane went, the pilot had about 12K feet to deal with it

[waster 0]

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Is it possible to exit and airplane doing 450 mph and not hurt yourself or your gear?