drenaline 0 #1 October 21, 2002 I can't believe how many trash I saw on the bottom of the ocean, this year I have made 2 underwater cleanup and gotta tell you people are to dirty! they think that throwing it into the ocean makes no damage, they are WRONG! if we kill the ocean we kill our air, the oxigen we breathe comes mostly from the coasts. I cant remember the proportions but I think its 90% of the O2 comes from the ocean mostly from the coasts and 10% comes from everything else. Some people say that it desintagrates and they are probably right, it does but what do you creat? Soda cans are aluminum, plastic bags are like jelly fish and some fishes eat it and die, the thing that holds the cans together is like a fish net (I have seen it), bottles can last alot of time and they break the coral, I have seen diapers, kotex, wheels, plastic bottles, medicine bottles, all kinds of things underwater and that stuff is killing the animals an polluting the bottom of the ocean. The trash also travels with the undersea currents, when we classified the trash we picked up we saw alot of bottles from colombia, meaning that they travel to all kinds of places hurting and destroying what they can. Its sad... I ask for the help of everybody, next time you go to the beach carry a plastic bag and pick up all the trash you see on the floor and if you go diving go with a bag and pick up the trash you find in the way. If you see that a beach is way dirty then plan a beach clean up day with your friends its fun, ask for donations (lots of big companies like to give donations for things like this), email PADI for more information on how to do the clean up (how to classify the trash), info about project aware and get funds to help you (www.padi.com), the coral in the whole world is dying its sad and dangerous... Am with the Asociacion Oceanica de Panama and we do all kinds of projects from teaching in classrooms about awareness to coral reforestation with electrolisis. We are with project AWARE and Reef Check, and the studies showed that we (planet earth) has lost more than 50% of the coral we had 10 years ago at this rate we will loose all the corals and if we loose the coral we will loose all the life in the ocean as well, can you imagine millions of masses of water with no life? Thanks for reading. disclaimer: I get no money or anything else for saying this. PADI gives me no money or anything else for mentioning theyr name. Am just a kid that loves the ocean like he loves the sky. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #2 October 21, 2002 alot of that stuff comes from offshore dumping by big companies. Not all of it is people tossing there trash into the waves at the beach.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluefingers 0 #3 October 21, 2002 now THAT pisses me off ... Kerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #4 October 21, 2002 yeah, some companies and some hotels let the tourist toss the cans and the bottles in the beach. Problem with big companies is that they have political influence and there is no way to touch them, so we try to give awareness to the workers that way they know what to do, and its been working. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #5 October 21, 2002 I don't know anyone that would just dump their crap in the ocean, but if I did I would kick their ass...or just make them aware of the issue and the damage they are doing...or both. I agree this needs to stop, at this rate we will have to find some other planet to trash because this one won't be able to sustain life anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #6 October 21, 2002 Some pics. limp4 is a underwater pic of 8 years ago. aopfoto2 is from the first cleanup we had this year (am not in the pic) and the following links are from the second clean up we did, I haven't scanned the third clean up. http://www.dealante.com/documentos/8322.jpg I am the one on the left, next to that beautiful lady. http://www.dealante.com/documentos/8321.jpg The beach we cleaned. http://www.dealante.com/documentos/8319.jpg A pic of everybody (yeah I know am not that photogenic), far left in the floor with yellow tshirt and hat. http://www.dealante.com/documentos/8324.jpg The boat was taking us to another place to do underwater cleaning. I spent all the trip trying to get a date with her but had no luck. I am the third one from right to left, in front of the lady. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #7 October 21, 2002 See also here http://www.greenpeace.org/international_en/features/details?features%5fid=47524 In essence, an open letter from one US citizen to another. Consider the stats quoted, a country consisting less than 5% of the world's population creating more than 25% of 'greenhouse' gases.....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #8 October 21, 2002 Oh, the world is getting all fucked up? What else is new? I've pretty much given up on mankind, eventually were just all going to drown in our own crap(at polluters). And I'm too lazy to really do anything about it(at me and other lazy bastards). I do try to make environmentally sound choices where I can, but cleaning up the messes of others is beyond me. drenaline: I salute people like you. The world needs more of your kind.(edited to clear terrible misunderstanding ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #9 October 21, 2002 "I salute people like you. The world needs more of your kind." Ah, before my halo becomes too dazzling, you should bear in mind that I am paid by some of the globe's worst offenders when it comes to environmental issues..... The dreaded multi-national oil companies.. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #10 October 21, 2002 Hell, I didn't mean you, you henchman of capitalist oppressors!I was trying to reply to drenaline... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #11 October 21, 2002 -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #12 October 21, 2002 Protect the trees eat beavers! OVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #13 October 21, 2002 Oh about trash Do you know that the richer you are, the more you through out. And it is not only poluting the ocean, think for a minute, sometimes what you through out let say a slice bread that 3 days old could save a life of anybody in Africa. Or people are driving 40 year old cars somewhere but others dump old cars into the sea. I wonder what would happen if once all the seas would drain what would we found there. OVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #14 October 21, 2002 I'm seldom happier than when I'm 'eating beaver'.Hey Erno, I just had a strange thought, "you henchman of capitalist oppressors!" I work for the guys that pull Dubya's strings.....Maybe its time to change my stance on a few eternal 'burning issues'... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluefingers 0 #15 October 21, 2002 Quote sometimes what you through out let say a slice bread that 3 days old could save a life of anybody in Africa. My mom used this one on me all the time when I refused to eat my pumpkinSeriously though, leftover food isn't going to be much help! But I agree with everything else you said (except the eating beaver part) Kerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #16 October 21, 2002 >My mom used this one on me all the time when I refused to eat my pumpkin I got the same thing about various foodstuffs I wasn't too enthusiastic to eat. >Seriously though, leftover food isn't going to be much help! That's what I tried to explain my folks: "Fine, I don't want it, send it to Africa!". It didn't work. >But I agree with >everything else you said (except the eating beaver part) Not everyone is required to contribute to the cause. But I'm sure you have nothing against beavers being eaten. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #17 October 21, 2002 I read a very good book of a Hungarain writer/reporter he made a one month trip in Israel and made many interviews -rather friendly talks with many kind of people old, young etc.-. Once as he wrote, he spent a weekend at a kibutz -agricultural colony/farm/village- and he noticed that some old concentration camp survivers never leave any food, when they finish their and always take a slice of bread with them. They said that anybody who once starved knows what the real value of food. I know that I can not send the food I through out to somebody. Anywas I do not like throughing out food. OFF-TOPIC ...and anything els. Sometimes my mom tired to kill me when I was insisting on keeping old stuff that she would through out (old LEGO, Matchbox etc.) OVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluefingers 0 #18 October 21, 2002 Bwaaahaaaa good one Erno!!!!! Kerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
