Magistr8 0 #1 October 24, 2002 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2352667.stm "Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools." Napoleon Bonaparte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 24, 2002 When the US DoD developed the Arpanet with BBN in the 60s (no, it wasn't Al Gore's invention), it was designed to maintain command and control through the radioactive smoking remains of the US in the event of a nuclear exhange with the USSR. Silly knuckleheads, they think since they could scratch Yahoo! and few others with Denial of Serice attacks, they can now attempt to bring the whole thing down. Poor kids...they don't know what they're in for...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 October 24, 2002 They took out 7 out of 12 root servers, not bad if you ask me. 1 more and it would have started to show to the entire net, 2 and there would have been more interuptions then ever before. Another 20 minutes and it was predicted one from UUnet would have gone.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magistr8 0 #4 October 24, 2002 It's too bad that no one realizes that the computers that are essential to interNETWORK operation have connections closing in on OC256 which is NOT going to get shut down from a DDos attack unless there are millions of infected computers helping in the Dos. "Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools." Napoleon Bonaparte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #5 October 24, 2002 I think the idea was to halt the name servers, not necessarily congest the lines. If you can break the service it doesn't matter if they're connected via a dozen OC256 lines. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #6 October 24, 2002 lets just blame clay and his post whoreing if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magistr8 0 #7 October 24, 2002 I GUESS IT works in combonation, if you don't have the BW to support all the requests you can also get a DDOS attack. I have to admit that I really didn't think that much before I made the post "Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools." Napoleon Bonaparte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #8 October 24, 2002 I don't dispute that there would have been a degradation in service. Remember, UUNet is but one of five "Tier 1" backbones that are "THE internet". What is not being touted in the story is that these root servers have hot-standby back-up with additional redundancy behind that. The major ISPs distribute and mirror that address information, hosting content, ad infinitum. Now, add double or triple redundancy there. Then account that UUNet, Genuity, AT&T, C&W and Sprint each have at least three NOCs, with redundancy to monitor and manage the network. Will things slow down? Of course, we see it when we log on after getting home from work at 5 or 6 or 7 pm. Does throughput slow down? Nope. Increased traffic doesn't "slow" anything down, it simply takes it longer for the packets to "get on" and "get off" because there's more of them. The effect we see is slower, the way the NOC manages the traffic contributes to that by changing routing policies etc., but I still submit that the DDoS is the best shot the fringe has to offer and it won't work.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites