PLFXpert 0 #51 November 4, 2002 Quote Wait, what is this I see, it is, Carrie, you have a "boy-toy" remark in your profile. Because he's so much more than a boyfriend...he's my favorite playtime activity. Ha ha ha...everyone who knows me knows I have a playful nickname for EVERYTHING and everyone. The term "boyfriend" is so overdone. I like to think of myself as orininal. Ha ha ha. Besides, I'm not complaining about how girls are treated. I think girls should be able to handle themselves. If a guy makes me uncomfortable, I will make sure he knows whatever it is is not cool. I rarely wear my bikini top at the DZ, but one day that I did, some guy said, " I think you should know I think you have very nice boobs." I wasn't offended by this at all. I said, "thank you." If I had been offended, however, I would have told him and let him know never to act that way again. I am DEFINITELY not for the mistreatment of ANY woman, BUT, I do think women need to take a little more responsibility sometimes and handle things, rather than not say anything and complain about it later. Oh geez...see what you did, Brannan, you got me involved in the drama... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clrarch 0 #52 November 4, 2002 I just want to be comfortable, so I wear my speedo. hahaha A speedo is really sexy Funny story from when I was in college: I was at cocktail party with a group of friends; we're standing around in our semi-formal wear, talking, hanging out, having some dignified drinks. A friend of mine notices a female party-goer standing next to our group. She's wearing a dress with a heart shaped cutout at her chest----it shows off her, um, assests quite well. Naturally, my friend was checking out her assests. Well, she looked at him and said, "What are you looking at?" And he replies, "Um, your chest". Her jaw kind of fell open and she asked, "Why are you looking at my chest?" And he said, "Well, if you wear a dress like that, you obviously want people to notice your chest, so I noticed". And that was the end of the conversation. She walked away, but he was right....I'm a girl, and I admit it---he was right she wanted people to look. Doesn't mean she wanted it to beyond looking, but she wanted people to look. I've done the same thing: I think I have a nice back, so I'll wear backless dresses sometimes. And when people say, "You have a nice back" I say "Thank you" because that's the compliment I was fishing for in the first place. The funny thing is it's usually when I'm all grimy and nasty from a day at the DZ or a workout that I seem to get hit on the most. Why is that???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #53 November 4, 2002 QuoteNot so much as the possibility of cheating... but that she would be so out numbered by males that it would'nt be fun with all the people making passes at her. Oh yeah....it's just so tough being a female with guys hitting on you. Nasty guys that I'm not interested in hit on me regardless if I'm in a relationship or not. I deal with them all in the same fashion. For me, I get a power kick knowing that I don't need anyone to help me along. Having someone with me at a boogie scaring all the bad men away from me is definitely not empowering. If I were a wussy girl who needed someone to go to boogies with me, because I just couldn't handle all the men, then I would certainly agree.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackwidow 0 #54 November 4, 2002 Quote I wasn't offended by this at all. I said, "thank you." Carrie, Look in dictionary under "Confidence", and you'll see your quote. Brannan - "I want champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my cham friends." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #55 November 4, 2002 Quote On another point, I do feel I have to "prove" myself at the dz. So often new guys who jump with me seem surprised OK, mama..you know I love you but what do I always tell you: You don't have shit to prove to anyone except yourself;-). Seriously, I understand where my favorite girl is coming from, but the way I see it, if some guy is going to judge me based on how I look and what sex I am and think he knows how I can fly based on that, then to hell with him. If anything, the only thing people have been surprised about after I jump with them is how far I've progressed in so few jumps. I take this as a compliment, and again, I say, "thank you." If anything, I think girls have to prove themselves to other girls. It sucks that it is that way, though. Again, I feel like, if you're going to judge me before you know me based on how I look, then to hell with you. I may not have many girlfriends, but the ones I have (Skymama) are true to me. I like honest and open-minded people. If you are a jerk and you say, "hey, I'm a jerk, this is me, take it or leave it." then you're OK by me b/c at least you know what you are and have identified it for me. But if you say, "hey, I'm a great person" and you really are a dickhead, then I don't care what your name is, who likes you, or how famous you are, I think you're a jerk. Skymama, I should spank you for that one...ha ha ha! . (as the sausage line forms once again, for the skymama/plfxpert ritual) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #56 November 4, 2002 Quote On another point, I do feel I have to "prove" myself at the dz. Darn it, Andrea, quit trying to hijack the thread. We were talking about women wearing their boinkage outfits. Don't try that seriousness stuff again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #57 November 4, 2002 >The funny thing is it's usually when I'm all grimy and nasty from a > day at the DZ or a workout that I seem to get hit on the most. Why > is that???? Cause makeup and hairspray and all that is sorta gross. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #58 November 4, 2002 Here he comes to wreck the daaaayHe he he...I got nothing but love for you, Bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #59 November 4, 2002 QuoteCause makeup and hairspray and all that is sorta gross. I say if we ever happen upon billvon napping at the dz, we should paint his nails and make up his face. And freeze his bra! Wait, that last one probably wouldn't work.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackwidow 0 #60 November 4, 2002 QuoteI say if we ever happen upon billvon napping at the dz, we should paint his nails and make up his face. And freeze his bra! Wait, that last one probably wouldn't work. ...or maybe makup on his nails and paint on his face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #61 November 4, 2002 Ha ha ha...I think that last one was DEAD ON. Bill, you know I'm teasing you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #62 November 4, 2002 Quote Quote Cause makeup and hairspray and all that is sorta gross. I say if we ever happen upon billvon napping at the dz, we should paint his nails and make up his face. And freeze his bra! Wait, that last one probably wouldn't work. Where is Jraf? He is the most current authority on getting your nails done while you are asleep at a boogie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clrarch 0 #63 November 4, 2002 Amen----you've got a good head on your shoulders, Carrie and sound like a very cool woman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #64 November 4, 2002 Here it comes....watch this... THANK YOU!Simple, polite...my favorite two words. Thank you, Clarch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clrarch 0 #65 November 4, 2002 And freeze his bra! Wait, that last one probably wouldn't work. It works. Ask any girl who's been to slumber party while growing up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #66 November 5, 2002 Quote And freeze his bra! Wait, that last one probably wouldn't work. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It works. Ask any girl who's been to slumber party while growing up. Ahum......What exactly does a frozen bra accomplish other than aroused pokies? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #67 November 5, 2002 Quote [(stirring the pot -just- a little) If a woman doesn't want to be looked at as "sexy" and doesn't want to be hit on, then . . . she -should- dress in a way that doesn't attract too much attention. I find it difficult to believe that any woman knowingly walks into a location populated by at least 85% males without taking this into consideration one way or the other. Okay, I'll bite. :) Sports bras are comfortable...much more so than, say, a t-shirt bunched under your jumpsuit. That's why i wear them. I would guess that's why alot of women wear them. Should we wear something less comfortable for fear of looking "sexy?" I certainly do not wake up to go to the dz thinking "yeahhhh, I think i'll skip the Donna Karan outfit and look sexy at the dz today....so I'll wear a sports-bra." I think it's more an issue of some of the dudes learning how NOT to stare for minutes at a time. Most of the guys I know are pretty cool about it. A typical exchange with any of my male friends: male friend: "Arlo, your _______ sure looks hot today." Arlo: "(name), is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" With that said, most of the women I know in skydiving are strong, independent women and can dish out as much as they can take. There is little room for thin-skin or whining. I see no problem with being one of the guys and flirting like one too. ;) But there are indeed those that dress up, full make-up, never break a sweat, with full intent upon being noticed. Sorry , but I go to the dz to skydive and usually end up looking as far from sexy as most could imagine. The character Pigpen actually comes to mind. :) It's all good fun until someone pokes an eye out.... blues, arlo p.s. my Paul, is that a big spoon you have or are you just happy to see me? ;) (spoon....stir...you get it :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #68 November 5, 2002 Arlo -- I think we're actually both on the same page here. My point was women do realize what they're doing and they generally do exactly what they intend to do. The problem comes from when they get results from people they did not intend to get results from.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #69 November 5, 2002 Quote If I were a wussy girl who needed someone to go to boogies with me, because I just couldn't handle all the men, then I would certainly agree. Val....I don't think you had any problems in Rantoul. Except when it came to golf and shopping carts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #70 November 5, 2002 Quote Arlo -- I think we're actually both on the same page here. My point was women do realize what they're doing and they generally do exactly what they intend to do. The problem comes from when they get results from people they did not intend to get results from. Quade, I always complain about the catfish when I'm fishing for snook myself. Arlo, thanks. Always rely on my honey to distill the truth for the masses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites