wmw999 2,589 #1 November 7, 2002 Yesterday was my son's 19th birthday, and it's fabulous to see him growing into an adult who knows how to *make decisions *ask for inputs to those decisions *use those inputs in his own way *indicate gracefully that enough input has been provided I've also discovered that the key to maintaining a close relationship is to have a working car, and be willing to loan it to him whenever his current project car has to go in for repairs. I'm the proud grandmother of a 1991 Toyota MR2. He always shows up on time and in a good mood then Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites