nacmacfeegle 0 #1 November 13, 2002 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2455845.stm-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #2 November 13, 2002 And Bush thinks that the best thing for America to do to protect itself is to invade Iraq?A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #3 November 13, 2002 You notice how many times he mentions Iraq in there? He might be an evil bastard but he is also very astute. By aligning himself with Palestine and Iraq he is sure to get some new hard-line Islamic supporters when the UN invades Iraq and/or Israel attacks another refugee camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #4 November 13, 2002 Steady on Skreamer, that sounded like an intelligent and considered opinion being expressed in Talk Back. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #5 November 13, 2002 Sorry - Osama is a bad man because he doesn't drink beer and doesn't like boobies (womens' boobies that is). There, that better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #6 November 13, 2002 QuoteThere, that better? Well, I think you're being a little flippant to be honest. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #7 November 13, 2002 And some people think we should not be launching Hellfires at these guys.All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #8 November 13, 2002 Quote You notice how many times he mentions Iraq in there? He might be an evil bastard but he is also very astute. By aligning himself with Palestine and Iraq he is sure to get some new hard-line Islamic supporters when the UN invades Iraq and/or Israel attacks another refugee camp. This is already happening - Israel rolled tanks into Nablus, Arafat responded in his usual impotent way. The Palestinians aren't making many "new" friends and with Syria's vote for the UN resolution last Friday against Iraq, the hardliners will not fall at Saddam's feet if there is military action. On the diplomatic front, the US and UK have been very successful at fully isolating Iraq, that even France warns of force to disarm Iraq. As for Osama, I think it's a double edged sword: They hit us with their best shot on 9/11, I'm convinced of that. Since then, it has been their traditional tactics...tactics which are harder to track, difficult to stop and just as painful when we lose people we love. I hope UBL is in delusional denial over his situation, that will make all the better when we get him...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagar 0 #9 November 13, 2002 QuoteSteady on Skreamer, that sounded like an intelligent and considered opinion being expressed in Talk Back. Gus MODERATORS!!! eh... think of the children! eh... DO SOMETHING!!--- PCSS #10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #10 November 13, 2002 Quote I hope UBL is in delusional denial over his situation, that will make all the better when we get him... We got Tojo, we'll get him too. "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #11 November 13, 2002 He sure does account for his actions though... It's the futur threat I'm worried about... My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #12 November 13, 2002 I did notice that he didn't sound so good. Of course, if the entire Western world had been hunting me for over a year.....I probably wouldn't be that happy go lucky self either. Maybe he just needs a few weeks at Club Med to recuperate. I heard they opened a nice one at Gitmo Bay just for Islamic terrorists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #13 November 13, 2002 Quote I did notice that he didn't sound so good. Of course, if the entire Western world had been hunting me for over a year.....I probably wouldn't be that happy go lucky self either. Maybe he just needs a few weeks at Club Med to recuperate. I heard they opened a nice one at Gitmo Bay just for Islamic terrorists. Isn't that the one whith the 'spa' including isolation therapy and those wonderful... um... "massages" With wooden bats -er- 'massage batons'? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #14 November 13, 2002 Quotehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2455845.stm I can't wait for that hemorrhoid-sucking squid's prick to get a TOW up his hairy ass."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #15 November 14, 2002 >I can't wait for that hemorrhoid-sucking squid's prick to get a TOW up his hairy ass. Yep; I hope we don't get sidetracked from getting our hands on this guy by the whole Iraq thing. We got the inspections; now we have some time to concentrate on finding Bin Laden before we turn our attention elsewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #16 November 14, 2002 Quote In conclusion, I ask God to help us champion His religion and continue jihad for His sake until we meet Him while He is satisfied with us. And He can do so. Praise be to Almighty God. This is the difference between us. This is what defines what side you are on. The United States has Imams in it's Military, we don't care what religion our citizens practice, so long as it does no harm to others. Try to practice Catholicism in any Islamic governed country. This faction of Islam will convert you at the point of a sword or kill you. If they could get here and do that, they would. We would not be going there if they weren't blowing up and beheading our folks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #17 November 14, 2002 Quote We got the inspections I wouldn't go that far.......www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/13/iraq.un/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #18 November 14, 2002 The 'edited eversion of that 9 page letter is here also... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2468487.stm But lets face it, they now have no options left but to allow the inspectors in.....Or face serious consequences.My take on all this, they are stalling so the weather window of opportunity will close. Brinksmanship is a dangerous game to play. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #19 November 14, 2002 Quotethey are stalling so the weather window of opportunity will close What weather window? The cloudy weather that could hamper US Air power or is he waiting for the weather to cool of a little so his VX stockpiles will work. Most Chem agents only work with any real effectiveness between about 40-70F. Actually...for all the hoopla over chemical weapons they are suprisingly fickle. I used to be scared of them until I went to Korea. I learned a lot about chem over there. Turns out the windows of weather that would allow them to be used are pretty narrow. Plus...I was only a few miles from the DMZ so it would have just been Non-persistant stuff anyway. It only sticks around for 30 minutes to an hour. Mostly stuff like VX and Sarin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #20 November 14, 2002 What I meant was the weather in about 3 or 4 months will not be favourable for an allied 'police' force. It will be getting very hot, so using chem/biological suits will be a real pain. Also sandstorms will severely hinder the close air support from the likes of apaches, blackhawks, and A10s. If I was Saddam, and he's not stoopid(crazy yes!), I would try and stall any action till the weather was in my favour...Prevaricating over the inspectors and what they can and cannot see, is one tactic I would employ.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #21 November 14, 2002 Quote It will be getting very hot, so using chem/biological suits will be a real pain. True...but those weapons aren't very effective when it's blistering hot outside. They evaporate too quickly. The sandstorms are a real pain though. It gets pretty rediculously hot over there in the summer. However, the US has very nice air conditioning in the M-1 tanks and Bradleys. The T-55, T-62, T-64 I don't think have any. That must suck!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #22 November 14, 2002 If I'm reading my strategies right, the T-tanks won't matter anyway..... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #23 November 14, 2002 >I wouldn't go that far....... "Therefore, and as we said in the foresaid agreement and press statement, we are prepared to receive the inspectors, so that they can carry out their duties, and make sure that Iraq has not developed weapons of mass destruction, during their absence since 1998. . . . We are eager to see them perform their duties in accordance with the international law as soon as possible." Of course, a statement like that is worth little more than the paper it's printed on, but at least they seem to be agreeing on paper. Time will tell if they back that up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #24 November 14, 2002 Bill, You seem to trust the Iraqi government more than the American government. Why is that? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #25 November 14, 2002 www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/14/iraq.letter.ap/index.html Reading that letter...it seems they have forgotten that they LOST a war. They seem to think that they have some input on the agreement. OK...so they have some. Do what we say or we'll kick your ass again. The text of that letter seems pretty demanding and confident. I don't think they understand anything short of military action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
