mouth 0 #1 November 20, 2002 OK, as you all know there are 35 more days until Eloy. I know this because I've been counting since like 70. Several of you camera people have offered to do pics while we are there so I thought I would bring a stash of film so that I'm ready. Well, of course that brought up the question of what speed film works the best for taking stills of jumps? Do you have a film type preference (Kodak, fuji, etc)? I'm also bring my camera for ground proof that no trouble was caused....yea right! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablito 0 #2 November 20, 2002 I prefer to use 100speed film kodak. It's my preference for student jumps. Have a great day Cielos Azules Pablito "If you don't overcome your fears they will overcome you first" Shady Monkey/6Segundos Rodriguez/AKA Pablito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 November 20, 2002 I'm going to bring a handful of those one time use disposable cameras for my enjoyment. I'll probably take them on loads too. Fun shots from the plane, maybe one or two in freefall. And the best part, if one gets broken durning a night of hard partying, then I'm not out that much money, probably just out some cool pics.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #4 November 20, 2002 Hehe, my first camera jump was a belly fly three way, we just passed the wee disposable camera around taking snaps of each other goofing. At pull time I just stuffed the thing back inside my jumpsuit....Never did tell the CCI (STA equiv) about it. Worked fine.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #5 November 20, 2002 Speaking of this...I used 400 speed to take pictures of the awesome swoops at deep woods ranch two weeks ago but only a few came out good. The rest were blurred. What speed film is good for these fast-action shots?Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #6 November 20, 2002 Hey Lisa! The higher the ASA number the less sharp and grainier the photos. If it's sunny, 100 ASA is great. The standard for my DZ is 200, cause we sometimes get overcast, and it's good overall for regular prints. If you intend to make a poster, get the 100. If you want pre, plane, and post jump photos, get 36 exposure rolls. If you just want the freefall, get 24. Disclaimer: I am a vidiot mechanic. Defer to the advice of video flyer artists like JJennings, Brent Finley, MBetts, Ltdiver, and Quade if they pipe up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #7 November 20, 2002 A real photographer is gonna nail me for being wrong, probably, but 400 is overkill on a sunny day. If you've got a decent camera with a reasonable f-stop, it's much more a function of shutter speed. You might post the details of the camera, the f-stop of the lens, the shutter speed you were using and the light conditions on the camera forum. Some of those guys are really, really good at this stuff. With their advice I've been able to con people into buying my photos and video! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDolphin 0 #8 November 20, 2002 Kodak Portra 160. It's professional film and I've found it works best. It was recommended to me by a professional photographer friend. R Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #9 November 20, 2002 The camera is not top quality. It's an Olympus. I don't even know any more details than that, offhand. It's fairly old though.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #10 November 20, 2002 >we just passed the wee disposable camera around taking >snaps of each other goofing. I did something pretty similar. Me and a couple of my buddies bought a 25€ camera to use in freefall. It was mostly used while bolted to a helmet, sometimes we just kept it in our hands. Then one faithful day I was supposed to take an exit shot of a friend diving after me, but I went unstable, did this "windmill"-move with my left(camera) arm, the strap slipped from my wrist, and whoosh there goes the camera. Damn. It was never found. And it had a full roll of great shots to be developed too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #11 November 20, 2002 Quote Me and a couple of my buddies bought a 25€ camera to use in freefall. Wow! What a cheap camera!-or- Wow! That's a ton of money to spend on a camera that you lost.A Euro is about a dollar? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #12 November 20, 2002 Quote The higher the ASA number the less sharp and grainier the photos. I used 400 in CA. That must have been why most of my pictures sucked! I thought the higher number, the better.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #13 November 20, 2002 Quote Wow! What a cheap camera! -or- Wow! That's a ton of money to spend on a camera that you lost. Like I said, there were three guys sharing the cost... so it was about 8-9€ / share. The point was that if something happened to the camera we wouldn't have to cry our eyes out about it.>A Euro is about a dollar? Pretty much, yeah. Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #14 November 20, 2002 Eventually one of the camera gods is going to yank me out of here, but with film, more expensive doesn't always mean better pictures. Higher ASA film usually costs more. High ASA film captures pictures in lower light. So in daylight, but inside, you can use a camera with 400 ASA film without a flash. If you are using 100 ASA film you will have to use a flash. Brightness of pictures is controlled by the aperature you're using, the f-stop, and the shutter speed, how long the shutter is open, letting the image hit the film. High ASA film also lets you use really high shutter speeds. So if you want individual droplets of water to show from a pond swoop, you use 400 ASA film at the highest possible shutter speed. On programmable cameras this is called something like shutter priority mode. With high ASA film you might be able to use 2000th of a second on a bright day. High ASA film also lets you use a smaller aperature, a smaller hole the image goes through. The smaller the hole, the sharper the whole picture is from near to far. If the aperature is wide open, the foreground and background are blurry, and if you nailed your focus, only the subject is sharp. On programmable cameras that's called something like "aperature priority". Little cameras usually have poor light transmission through their lenses, so they have to have large apertures. When the aperature is wide open to compensate for low light you'll get focus problems because the depth of field of focus is shallow, and if you use high speed film to compensate for poor light, your photos will be grainy. Whew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #15 November 20, 2002 Wow, Duece, thanks! So, for the basic pictures that I take of people and scenery with my old 35mm nothing fancy camera, I should stick to 200 speed maybe?She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #16 November 20, 2002 Then there is me...Minolta Maxum...it does everything for me except press the button to take the pic!! I guess I should get 100, 200 and 400 then we can pick and choose according to what is going on! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #17 November 20, 2002 Yeah, if you're outside, 200 is great. Your camera has a light meter, so if you want lots of depth of field of focus, sharp from close to far, crank the f-stop down to the smallest possible hole that allows for a shutter speed of 125 or greater. Slower than that will allow for some blurring of stuff that's moving. I try to take a picture of my daughters every spring in this field of flowers behind my house. For that one I like to use a wide open f-stop so that the flowers in front and behind them are blurred, and it makes the field of flowers look way bigger than it is. For freefall pictures I set my shutter priority at 500. This will automatically crank the f-stop down, cause it's bright up there! I get sharp photos with pretty unlimited depth of field of focus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #18 November 20, 2002 OK, so are you going to give me camera lessons as well as hanging lessons in Eloy? -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #19 November 20, 2002 I have an automatic 35mm, so I don't think I have an f-stop. If I do, then it will be a big surprise to me! I just point and click like Lisa does.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #20 November 20, 2002 I PM'd you. I'll set your camera to the same settings I use, like I said, I'm a mechanic about this stuff, not an artist. Soon as I get it to work, I'm done. Talk B-squared into doing the formation loads on the 29th, and me you and Seb will hang from the step when we launch a 20 way. Gimme a roll of 24 exposure 200 ASA print film and I'll help you prove it happened.JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #21 November 20, 2002 I kiss mine Mama... K eep I t S imple S tupid Point and shoot is the way to go! Especially after a few drinks....then everything is fuzzy! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #22 November 20, 2002 200 film speed is perfect,400 is too fast and if you want to make the picture bigger it"s going to get too grainy,200 is perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #23 November 20, 2002 What shutter speed was your camera set at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #24 November 20, 2002 There's always the digital option... Most digital cameras automatically adjust for light conditions, so you don't have to worry that you have half a roll of 100 in your camera still and want to take indoor photos. Digital cameras are now cheap, the printing options are now cheap, and the total cost of ownership is a lot lower. Also, you get to take way more photos, because you can delete the ones you don't like. The best thing about digital photography though, is the ability to rescue poorly exposed shots in Photoshop, crop how you want, etc. I don't know any professional photographers that shoot on film anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #25 November 20, 2002 Option 1: use the 35 mm camera I already own and simply purchase film Use the rest of my funds to jump Option 2: use my jump funds to purchase a new digital camera, photoshop and all that stuff What would you do??? -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
