indyz 1 #26 December 3, 2002 Quote I trashed my red and blue boxes years ago... only way to stay out of trouble. Getting a job as a comp tech tends to lead one to hack for fun at home... I never had a local exchange where blue boxes would work I did have a tone dialer that eventually died from being taken apart so many times Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #27 December 3, 2002 I cut waaaay back when I came to A&M mainly due to the kind of security the ResNet had (the dorm LAN) and the sort of concequences that could be had by messing around on campus, it wasn't worth that to me. I still like me some fones, though... --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #28 December 3, 2002 That's whats cool about growing up in BFE north Texas, there were a couple towns in my area that still had 3ess's when I lived up there...oh, that was fun...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #29 December 3, 2002 Quote you phreaked? Now, who actually knows where 2600 got their name from and why the whistle that came in the Captain Crunch cereal box many years ago is so special? Bueller? Bueller? KrisSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #30 December 3, 2002 QuoteYou'd be surprised who's a phreaker, just laying beneath a very subtle surfuce of semi-geekness sometimes lays a very devoted geek, very devoted phreak or hacker. Yeah, I wasn't the pasty-faced goth kid in the clan. I showed up to most get-togethers, Gatherings, and 2600 meetings in a rugby shirt and a pair of Cole Haan's. Just as you should never confuse kindness with weakness, never confuse someone who looks like part of the conformal system with a lack of insatiable desire to see how the systems work along with the will to actually find out. That said, I still have my Southwestern Bell Telephone hard-hat that I "found" and I have more than a few hours logged dumpster-diving. KrisSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #31 December 3, 2002 You insult me... 2600 Hz, the "blue tone" what mabell used to communicate between switches that a trunk line was open. I'm not going to go into all the detail on how to use a blue box, you know that...of course that became obsolete when the 4ess came out... Cap'n Crunch, got the name b/c of the whistle he found in the cereal box with the same name. The whistle blew a perfect 2600Hz pitch, he started phreaking with it and the rest is fone history.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lolie 0 #32 December 3, 2002 wtf are you guys talking about? it sounds really interesting... -Miranda you shall above all things be glad and young / For if you're young,whatever life you wear it will become you;and if you are glad / whatever's living will yourself become. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #33 December 3, 2002 Dave, Even though you're an aggie I knew there was a reason why I think you're an okay guy.Spot-on on both answers. Rumor has it that Captain Crunch got so good with blue-boxing that he taught himself how to whistle a perfect 2600Hz tone to open the trunk line. Kris Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #34 December 3, 2002 to be honest the only reason i know what you guys are talking about it a book my mom gave me about this russian spy that got into phreaking and hacking. I can't remember the name of the book but somthing i remember is this guy getting nailed over the head with a bat and his cracking his skull open and then he somehow manages to wake up put a hat on to keep his brains in his head and then drive to a safe house. that was one hell of a book! the cover had a drawing of a nuke missle sub on it.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #35 December 3, 2002 Quote somthing i remember is this guy getting nailed over the head with a bat and his cracking his skull open and then he somehow manages to wake up put a hat on to keep his brains Did you see "Bad Taste" by Peter Jackson? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBile 0 #36 December 3, 2002 Personally, I reckon that if anyone doesn't like the way HH and his fellow greenies run this joint then they should get the hell out of dodge. The rest of us will stay here and have a good time whilst appreciating the hard work that goes into this place.Gerb I stir feelings in others they themselves don't understand. KA'CHOW ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyThomas 0 #37 December 3, 2002 Some people were able to comprehend. Thanks for the new ideas. All I had to do was post, and other people brought new ideas into a somewhat boring thread. It was boring when I started it, had the HH looking at it to check acceptability, and then other people started to make this thread humorous. Thanks guys. This is a cool place. Peace, Thomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #38 December 3, 2002 I do have to admit I'm getting a little tweeked by the damn kiddie in my area thats decided to go war dialing between 12 and 3 am every night for the last week. I'd trace it down but I used to do the same... The fun one is when my roommate and I play with new toys and try to own each others boxes. I had spent hours setting up a secpol for the box then went to the bathroom... came back to see he had installed a trojan by just walking up to the box... tought me a lesson. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #39 December 3, 2002 Quote It is better than basic cable, but not quite up to "Spice Channel" standards yet....not that I ever watch that stuff..... Those chicks have their own channel now? Who'd a thunk it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suz 0 #40 December 3, 2002 ***hot fork issue arising. *** "raises an eyebrow" Tis a free speech thread...but with no meaning....but yet, brings us all together...this has no meaning. Hey! fits right in with the theme here. Isn't there a warning saying rowdy bar somewhere as you enter this forum? weiner. (wannabe greenie) Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #41 December 3, 2002 I remember seeing a documentary back in the 70's about phreaking, and they filmed Crunch whistling his tone. That was so kewl! I'll bet the Ma Bell engineers wet their pants when they saw that!"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #42 December 3, 2002 CT, brother in arms! This place is gettin very stale with this "This is no democracy" Bull Shit (new for of energizing drink). The true art is to make it a democracy. Any neo-colonial dictator knows how to create a dictatorship till another Mbudulezi or Mugabe comes and toplles him. Democracy is an art.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #43 December 3, 2002 QuoteCT, brother in arms! Bwahahahahaaa! Hans, you really have to get over it man. I locked that thread more than a month ago. Let it go. Quote...Mugabe Did you just compare me to a "neo-colonial dictator" That's hilarious. Dude, you're pissing into the wind.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #44 December 3, 2002 QuoteUS Constitution Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Get that, Sangiro? If you run for US Congress, you must not pass laws that abridge free speech. Until then, dropzone.com is your private property and you can do as you like with it. Cheers. (Why is it that people who don't achieve anything feel they have the inherited right to control other people's achievements? What a strange species we are...) First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #45 December 3, 2002 >I never had a local exchange where blue boxes would work . . . At MIT, we had Dormline, a mechanical switch that was unreliable, slow, noisy . . . but completely untraceable. There were dozens of long distance companies out there that were easy to hack. One, Travelnet, had an 8 digit ID code. The digits of each 4-number half always added up to 9 or 19, which cut down the number of guesses considerably. Then there was the completely unprotected Atlantic City marquis controller we discovered . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #46 December 3, 2002 Fine sir, free speach is a principle, a noble idea. In this country our forefathers made it a foundation of our cutlure, of our way of life. It is not a new idea. Ancient Greeks and Romans fought over it. The French Fronde was about it. The French revolution had to do with it (ended sadly, true). The American Revolution, the February 1917 Revolution in Russia, the 1956 Budapest uprising, the Bukarest uprising that has overthrown Caucescu etc. etc. etc. And all I can say is if in Rome... . Coming to the United States don't preach censorship. I suppose freedom is one idea I shall not put to rest. Everyone else is welcome to do so.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #47 December 3, 2002 psst.... freedom is not absolute in this country. I don't have to let you in my house. If I do, I can ask you nicely (or not so nicely) to shut up if you're annoying me or insulting my friends. If you come into my place of business, I have the right to refuse service to you. If you're out in public, verbally threatening people, the police will probably be called to take you away. It's been said before, it'll be said again - this is not wreck dot. You can't say or do anything you want. This is not a public domain, this is sangiro's house, you're just a guest here, stop pissing all over the carpet.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #48 December 3, 2002 What a tired misunderstanding of the idea! These are all examples of free speech under an authority. But dropzone.com is private property. It's more akin to an ongoing party in Sangiro's house than a country oppressed by a restrictive government. I don't have free speech in your home, nor do I deserve it, nor would I ask it. But if I did, do you think the principle of free speech requires you to endure me babbling in your living room? If you throw a party where I make loud, annoying complaints trying to sow discontent among the other guests, do you invite me back? If not, is that the same censorship you're decrying now? Sangiro's asked us to behave politely while enjoying his property. Fair enough! Go whine on your own website. The French Revolution had nothing to do with free speech. It was about free FOOD! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #49 December 3, 2002 >Fine sir, free speach is a principle, a noble idea. It is indeed! >Coming to the United States don't preach censorship. So if you oppose censorship, got any problem with me putting up some "VOTE YES ON CARBON TAX" signs on your front lawn? You _must_ be OK with that, unless you believe in censorship! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #50 December 3, 2002 Quote Coming to the United States don't preach censorship. Actually, free speech the way you're thinking about it (which doesn't apply here) allows me to do exactly that, and not be censored! I can preach whatever I want, it's free speech! Ironic huh? Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
