PLFXpert 0 #1 December 3, 2002 As skydivers, we are a VERY small minority in this world of whuffos. So why are some of us so hard on one another for no good reason. Obviously, sometimes people do stupid shit that deserves a good lashing (or spanking in my opinion) but sometimes, I see people worrying too much about others and coming down on them for no reason other than that person is just different or does things differently than them. I'm not speaking from any personal experience, other than the occasional pre-judgement here and there, I'm just speaking in general. A lot of us had lives before we skydived. Obviously now, we can't imagine our lives w/out it but we are still us no matter what we do, I think. I didn't start skydiving until I was 20 (I'm 22 now). That's 20 years of my life that I was Carrie before skydiver Carrie. There were things I was accustomed to that might not be the norm in the skydiving world, but I'm not going to change b/c I started skydiving and that goes for a lot of skydivers. Dont' get me wrong, skydiving changes all our lives, but our core selves will always be us. So long as nothing hinders you from getting all you want out of skydiving then what's wrong w/ diversity on the dropzone. I love that no-one else on the DZ is like me. I love that my best-girl Skymama is different than me in a lot of ways, too. ( and the same in other ways) I love that some people do this, others do that, some dress this way, others dress that way, some have long, dreaded hair, some have pink hair. I LOVE IT. I wouldn't change it for the world. What I don't understand is why some people care so much what other people do, look like, care about, do for a living, or whatever. What does it really matter, so long as we all know that we're a part of something that very few people in the world are a part of? We come from all different backgrounds, all different walks of life. For me, skydiving not only is some kick-ass sport I love to do, but it also gave me a family that I never had. I just don't get it, I guess. If we were all the same and did everything for the same reasons...wouldn't that be kinda boring?Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 December 3, 2002 Are you refering to a specific thing that happened here or is this just something in general?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #3 December 3, 2002 When you solve this one Carrie......you'll know the secret to world peace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #4 December 3, 2002 Not really...just in general...just reading the forums and heard a conversation last weekend, and remember what someone said to me once. I typically don' worry about what people say or do, but when I see things/hear things like this sometimes, and I know that person is a really cool person, it upsets me a bit. I'm not going to repeat the conversation, mention which post, or repeat what someone said to me once. None of it really matters and that would only be gossip for people to analyze and argue with. I don't care much for that Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5 December 3, 2002 It's because I'm right. I'm right all the time. Once people accept that, there will be no problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #6 December 3, 2002 Quote you'll know the secret to world peace. I know the secret.. 1. stop at your local mart an buy a 16oz bag of frozen pees 2. dump 16oz bag of pees into a blender. 3 add 1oz of lemon juice 4. 1 tbl spoon of minced garlic 5. blend on the whurl setting for 4 minutes VOILA!! Whurled Pees "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #7 December 3, 2002 y' know I love everyone...except the darkies, whitey's, gays', straighties, lefties ,righties yuppies,hippies. and hate mongers. but if you mean something OTHER then that...let us know and we'll work on it! after all we ARE a cut above the rest....OPEN MINDED!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 December 3, 2002 Just because a person skydives doesn't mean that I particularly like him/her, they have to earn my respect to have my friendship and I would hope it would be the same way coming from them. As for arguing on the forums, what else would we do? It gives us a place to debate various topics to varying degrees of closure. Sometimes they're very peaceful, sometimes they get quite heated. That's one of the things I love about this place. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #9 December 3, 2002 Here kitty kitty.. Here kitty kitty.. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 December 3, 2002 What?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #11 December 3, 2002 Quote you'll know the secret to world peace. The secret to whirled peas is all in the proper choice of blender. Seriously though. I've always appreciated the diversity of the people who skydive. Through this sport I've met and become friends with folks from so many "walks of life" that I likely would never have been exposed to had I not started jumping. The homeless guy, the judge, the cop, the mad scientist engineer, the computer geek... each has contributed to my growth as a person and from each of them I've learned more about life. Even those few who I don't particularly care to hang out with (for whatever reason) have taught me something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #12 December 3, 2002 Quote Just because a person skydives doesn't mean that I particularly like him/her, they have to earn my respect to have my friendship and I would hope it would be the same way coming from them. I coudln't agree more! If you re-read what I said...you'll see I didn't say that at all. I said people worrying about others and coming down on them for no reason, other than they are different. Again, not speaking personally. I like to make my own impressions of people, not based on the impressions or hearsay of what other people say. Like I always say, if you're a jerk and you say, "Hey, I'm a jerk, this is me" then we're cool b/c you're honest and genuine and that's great by me. But, if you're a jerk and you pretend to be otherwise, then I don't care much for you.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #13 December 3, 2002 I agree with you carrie, I think its really the PPL that make our sport so damn cool. where else could you mett assholes from all different walks of life. HAHAH! My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 December 3, 2002 You calling me a jerk? hehe, yeah, sorry, I guess I missread what you were saying. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #15 December 3, 2002 I never discriminate - I hate everybody jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwilling 0 #16 December 3, 2002 QuoteFor me, skydiving not only is some kick-ass sport I love to do, but it also gave me a family that I never had. "The bond that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each other's life. Rarely do members of one family grow up under the same roof." - Richard Bach - Illusions "If all you ever do is all you ever did, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #17 December 3, 2002 I too am open minded, i can take a genuine dislike to anyone no matter what their background or ethnic origin may be. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #18 December 3, 2002 He he he....you caught me Just kidding. JT, RIGHT ON! Lisa...as most of the time, couldn't have said it better myself. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #19 December 3, 2002 QuoteWhat? What? I think I've totaly lost it today.. 1 hour an I can recharge my batteries. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #20 December 3, 2002 OMG, I can't keep up. Bwilling, that quote fits me to a T! Anyone who knows me well will tell you that! Quickdraw, DITTO!Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #21 December 3, 2002 What's wrong, postwhores posting too fast for ya? --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #22 December 3, 2002 Quote ...after all we ARE a cut above the rest....OPEN MINDED! "Open Minded" generally means "you agree with me". If you don't agree, then, somehow, you weren't listening to the other party. I usually say "Yes, I was listening with an open mind and I did listen. I still think you are wrong." People generally don't discuss to learn. They discuss to persuade you. If you are not persuaded, you are considered "close-minded". My personal rules for life don't work for others. 70% of my rules are just guidelines anyway. 20% just work because of the framework that they operate in. I have constructed my life to have so that I can be irresponsible or lazy at times. About 5% of the stuff, I am wrong about. Another 5% depends on my mood. Judgemental people don't know all the circumstances, but like to run others lives. It's gotten pretty easy to walk away from people like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #23 December 3, 2002 hey..I like being stupid! it makes ALL of the ppl I meet seem so much more interesting! My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #24 December 3, 2002 I should also add...I received a concerned PM from a sexy friend. RARELY am I offended at ANYTHING...as Skymama, Jt, Jceman, Rdutch and the rest will tell you...I can talk about ANYTHING openly and nothing offends or embarasses me. The comments weren't about offending me...I understand everyone is different and will judge as they please...I was just shedding some light on the subject. Nothing said offended me...I just didn't understand the mentality behind it. Still don't Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #25 December 3, 2002 QuoteI should also add...I received a concerned PM from a sexy friend. Sorry i still don't remember...what did i say ? -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites