Vallerina 2 #101 December 4, 2002 Quote Not everyone comes here looking for sympathy, advice, judgement, or a reaction - sometimes people just want to vent. That's what they make diaries for How many threads here have zero responses to it? They don't call it "Talk Back" for nothin'! Everyone comes here looking for a response. They just don't always expect the not-so-nice ones.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #102 December 4, 2002 Quote They just don't always expect the not-so-nice ones. Well, like I said, she can be dense sometimes it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skitzo 0 #103 December 4, 2002 Carrie, whoever told you that your going to jail must have gotten a bad rock, or maybe they were just trying to scare you into slowing down... Seriously though when I was right out of highschool I got quite a few speeding tickets, really...it was that damn car, it just wanted to go fast...,but anyway they just suspended my license for a couple months and gave me work privilieges. I'm not about to tell YOU what to do, but if it were ME I would not give that money to a lawyer, of course the lawyer is going to tell you he can help you, he wants that easy money, he could give muskrats ass what happens as this will not make the news. I would just go in front of the judge first on my own, say the things you should...like... I had a governor put on my car! see what he has to say, you've always got the chance when your there to plead no contest and get a court appointed atty. if they do decide to make an example out of you. Good Luck whatever you decide. "How do you keep your feet on the ground when you know you were born to fly?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #104 December 4, 2002 QuotePeople what to act all righteous, and say "You're a bad person! Just tell the truth!" when in reality it may not be the best option for the person, and chances are the person preaching it might not actually take the high road themselves. I hope you didn't take my post to be righteous and condemning...if so, I need to go back and re-write it. I agree, there are times that honesty is not the right option, as in my example (and I know from where I speak...) of the abusive husband. I also think that someone who knew they'd be whaled on for asking for help would not be approaching that avenue, either. I really hope that Carrie doesn't feel as if I was condemning her. That was truly not my intention. I just feel that a person, when faced with the normal family situation, that honesty is best, and it's an option I would (um, and have chosen to...) take. I also didn't say she should expect no judgment...for we all do, at some level or another, judge ourselves and others. One learns, one lives through it, and one carries on... Oh, and Vallerina? My diary is fairly judgemental! LOL!!!!! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #105 December 4, 2002 Quote My diary is fairly judgemental! LOL!!!!! You've got me beat...mine is extremely judgemental! It could easily turn my friends into enemies!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #106 December 4, 2002 QuoteYou've got me beat...mine is extremely judgemental! It could easily turn my friends into enemies! Um, notice that the word "farily" can be used several ways...not just as an alternative to "moderately"...and it isn't judgmental about my friends...more like judgmental about me....LOL! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #107 December 4, 2002 QuoteI hope you didn't take my post to be righteous and condemning... Nerp... there's a difference between "I'm not sure I would have handled it that way" and acting holier-than-thou about it. You want to give what you would do in your situation, fine. But don't presume to tell someone else how they should be living their life, when you don't know their situation. I don't think you were being righteous.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #108 December 4, 2002 I don't think people are abusing Carrie. I believe the point most people are trying to make is that unless you own up to your mistakes, and remedy them in a dignified manner, you are doomed to repeat them. It's character building to take responsibility for your actions. If I got myself into this same situation I would hope people would care enough to be this honest with me. Maybe I'm weird but I respect this type of honesty in people.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #109 December 4, 2002 Quote Maybe I'm weird Oh now, that's a whole other issue you're bringing to the table, Keith! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #110 December 4, 2002 Quote Maybe I'm weird I think being weird around here is being normal. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #111 December 4, 2002 Quote Out here in Cali we're too busy to be worried about some poor slob who wanted to zig-zag at 100 through traffic already going 85 in four lanes... No kidding. I watched a huge pileup (10+ cars) in my rearview mirror once, just south of Huntington Beach, caused by a guy doing exactly that, then trying to pass me on the left shoulder despite a broken down car there. I (and the rest of the traffic) was doing between 85 and 90 at the time. The most frustrating thing about moving back up to Washington from S. Cal was the traffic...more specifically the inability of people to drive in it. In southern Cal, it could be heavy traffic but we'd still be moving right along. Up here it seems like if there are 3 cars within a hundred feet of anyone, they slow down to 35."I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverchick 0 #112 December 4, 2002 Hi all back again.... I wanted to respond to a few things. First of all I wouldn't go to jail for just getting a ticket for 12 over...in ohio after 3 tickets in a year the prosecution can change speeding to wreckless operation and that carries a max sentence of 30 days in jail. Second I told my grandmother that I was having financial difficulties and that some unexpected expenses came up...and that if I didn't get those taken care that I may have to drop out of school and could loose my house. I told her that I would pay her back when my financial aid comes in in Jan and I will pay her back. She didn't ask for the specifics and I didn't give her any. Quote What happened to not having any family? Now your lying to your family and us here at DZ.com You still don't have the maturity to claim responsibility for your actions... Here's the shortened story of my family... Mom- died when i was 15 dad-disowned me brother-won't talk to me b/c of father maternal grandparents-won't help me or talk to me other than holidays because of things that happened when my mom was sick...and more. paternal grandparents-have problems being there for me b/c of father...don't see them or talk to them a bunch and this was the first time they have evr helped me and that is only because they want me to have a college degree to save face in the community. there is a bunch more stuff I could tell to prove that I don't have a family to speak of but I don't need to go into it. I think I have covered most of the quetions posted. edited to say and if you want to label me for lying then fine judge me and label away but the people that know me the most will tell you that that is not my nature. However if I am backed in a corner I will do what I need to to survive. And Seth I am dense but then again so are you. Mother Hen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #113 December 4, 2002 Quote there is a bunch more stuff I could tell.... You have nothing to prove here. Worry not. Though, I'm still wondering......what did you tell your grandma *ewg*...? Edit>> You answered this question...sorry ...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverchick 0 #114 December 4, 2002 Quote...what did you tell your grandma It was in the previuos post it was the second paragraph Mother Hen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #115 December 5, 2002 Yo Skydiverchick, First off I never doubted the possibility off you going to jail for a 12 mph ticket when compounded atop multiple violations, I just thought you were whining too much about self inflicted misery. OH the unfairness! Why me?Having read your explanations and comments I find that apparently you do have family and did not outright lie to your grandmother, sometimes certain details are better left in the dark and the "don't ask, don't tell" is acceptable in my book. I too have branches of my family tree that for most purposes have been pruned one way or another, that I would not even think of asking for help. So I can understand where that came from. I hope that sometime in the future you will try to close those gaps in such closely related family (father,brother and grandparents), family is all we truly have besides our soul. I was under the impression that you had just blatantly lied to your grandmother and apparently us since you had said Quote . I am a college student living on my own with absolutely no family to speak of. I too have told my share of lies big and little but I now strive to be as honest as possible with my fellow man and especially my family, I've created major strife by going back and admitting past discretions but they were healed and reconciled better than if they came out of a closet. I did not straight out call you a "liar' everything was posed as a question. Quote Now as for lying to your "GRANDMOTHER", "SHAME ON YOU!!!" What happened to not having any family? Now your lying to your family and us here at DZ.com? Was I judging you? Yes. Was I labeling you? No. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
