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My testing shows it is also true with a 6-cyl automatic transmission 1993 Toyota Previa minivan (most efficient around 40)



The Toyota Previa was never sold with a 6/cylinder engine. It was a 2.4L Four.

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The problem is that drag goes up as the cube of speed. That means massive penalties for increasing speed even if the engine does get more efficient at higher revs; you need eight times the power to cruise at 80mph as you do at 40mph (barring wheel friction, brake drag etc)



I was not trying to apply a universal solution, per se. But the other factors that play in this, inertia from the movement of mass, etc. Your examples are extemes in their category (a discontinued mini-van, a discontinued Mitsu, and a hybrid).
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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Hey everyone I am back...

First of all just to set the record straight...I never said I wasn't doing anything wrong...I know I was speeding. But jail for 30 days is a hard pill to swallow for speeding.

Second I never asked for money and won't take it if it was offered...it was no one elses responsibility to get me out of this mess.

Personally I think some speed limits are rediculios...but thats not why I speed. I am ok with paying tickets for speeding but I don't think it constitutes jail time.

Now for what happened...I lied to my Grandma and she gave enough to get a Lawyer...I talked to the lawyer and he said he feels very confident that he can take of it.

I fee like poop for lying but it was the only chioce I had. I know it is wrong.

This bad day got better its not great bt better.



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>It was a 2.4L Four.

You're right, I always mistake that engine displacement for a 6 for some reason.

>But the other factors that play in this, inertia from the movement of
> mass, etc.

If that's a big factor, then lower speeds win hands-down. It simply takes less energy to accelerate cars to higher speeds than lower speeds, and it takes less power to get them to climb hills at lower speeds. That's basic physics.

>Your examples are extemes in their category (a discontinued mini-
>van, a discontinued Mitsu, and a hybrid).

Feel free to present your own.

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Now for what happened...I lied to my Grandma and she gave enough to get a Lawyer...I talked to the lawyer and he said he feels very confident that he can take of it.

I fee like poop for lying but it was the only chioce I had. I know it is wrong.



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Feel free to present your own.



As much as I wish I could, I can't do the math. I resign to you depth of knowledge (really!). ;)
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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Just as I was about to make a point about giving, you made it for me.

I am not sure of the particular incident where 'giving bit someone in the rear" but I have to voice up on this one. When you give you give, no strings, no wanting in return, you just give, whatever your motive. Sometimes (ok, most always) there is more going on than those in need let on. Sometimes because it is personal sometimes because they are embarassed, or whatever. I hope others will not judge anyone - no matter how they got into their particular situation, or based on what they think or hear is the truth. We do not always know the full story, but to me, those who can give freely of themselves are a very special breed of people.
When was the last time you did an anonymous good deed to brighten someones day or help out a stranger, getting no recognition in return???

OK, sorry to hijack the thread, but I had to get that out!
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I am ok with paying tickets for speeding but I don't think it constitutes jail time.


Why not? Repeated violations of any law will sooner or later wind your arse up in the can. You are now being considered a habitual offender, you are showing a complete disregard for the law and safety so maybe some time in a cell might finally open your eyes.

Now as for lying to your "GRANDMOTHER", "SHAME ON YOU!!!"

What happened to not having any family? :o

Now your lying to your family and us here at DZ.com?>:(

You still don't have the maturity to claim responsibility for your actions...

!!!!!>:(:(Go back to your grandmother and tell her the truth, apologize profusely and let her decide based on the truthful facts if she still wants to help you!!!!!:(>:(

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Hey everyone I am back...

First of all just to set the record straight...I never said I wasn't doing anything wrong...I know I was speeding. But jail for 30 days is a hard pill to swallow for speeding.

Second I never asked for money and won't take it if it was offered...it was no one elses responsibility to get me out of this mess.

Personally I think some speed limits are rediculios...but thats not why I speed. I am ok with paying tickets for speeding but I don't think it constitutes jail time.

Now for what happened...I lied to my Grandma and she gave enough to get a Lawyer...I talked to the lawyer and he said he feels very confident that he can take of it.

I fee like poop for lying but it was the only chioce I had. I know it is wrong.

This bad day got better its not great bt better.



I wasn't going to say a word because we've all been there, but then you had to go and lie to GRANDMA for money! I can't believe an adult, a guilty one at that, would do such a thing! Be careful with karma like that. You're likely to make your mess one hell of a lot messier!

That recklace irresponsible attititude is likely to cause you much pain in life; it's probably exactly what got you in this in the first place!

Live honestly - your word is all you have!
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I have to agree with the sentiments..i will break any law i disagree with without regret, but lying to someone who obviously loves you is just wrong...

tell her the truth..she may give you hell, but i'll bet she will help you anyway..
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Carrie,
While I might not have chosen the path you did, I will not throw stones at you either. I have done some pretty stupid stuff in my life, and many things I am not proud of. I am sorry you felt the need to lie, and I am sure as you age you will find other solutions to lifes problems. Just remember we are all human, and I would like to shake hands with the person who thinks they never did anything wrong or made any bad decisions.
Life is not fair and there are no guarantees...


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I fee like poop for lying but it was the only chioce I had. I know it is wrong.



I wouldn't dare to judge the actions you chose, because I am not a saint by any stretch. However, I'm sorry you felt that was your best course of action. In the end, I hope things will unfold favorably for you. I also hope you will be able to make amends to your grandmother when the time comes.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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I stopped posting most personal stuff on dropzone a long time ago, when I figured out the lay of the land here.

People are being mean and judgemental without knowing anything about the situation but a few lines of text in a post. And many of those same people have posted about things they have done that I find appalling. I certainly wouldn't condemn them publicly on what little I know, though.

Everyone's done things that they're ashamed of. I think one of Carrie's mistakes was posting here and opening herself up to your abuse.
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Edited to add (and I can't believe I'm doing this) I agree with Jess too




yes blue, she is corect sometimes....you'll have to learn to live with it.....i also agree with her if it makes ya feel better..........

carrie,
sometimes ya gota do what ya gota do...

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Now for what happened...I ........



By the way :ph34r: ...what did you tell your grandma anyway? *ewg*
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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Hi, Carrie...

For what it's worth, I've managed to make a mess lots of times in my life. I survived it, learned from it, and moved forward. You will too.

I have a few thoughts I'd like to share with you.

Where did you get the idea you'll be going to jail from a ticket which was only 12 mph over the speed limit? Was this something the courts informed you of, or was it something your friend informed you of? The reason I ask is because I spent the night in jail once - for a Failure To Appear on a registration violation. That was a bone fide, serious arrest warrent issued. FTA is far more significant than a simple fix-it ticket. And once I was arrested and I spent the night in jail, when I spoke with the judge the next morning, he looked at me and let me go.

If you're going to go to jail, find a way to explain to the Judge the ramifications of it - screwing up your school, losing your place, losing your job. But take care to also explain that this has been a wake up call for you, and that you've taken it seriously. Most likely, the judge will take pity and give you some sort of modification - probation only, weekends in jail, I dunno, something like that.

Next, I want to speak to the dishonesty aspect. You've been hit hard about it, and I will not continue in that thread. But I will say that Grandmas tend to be understanding people. You felt comfortable enough to go to her in the first place. You obviously trust her to some significant degree. I wish you had the courage to tell her exactly what was going on, and allow her to assist you from a factual basis. You have courage, Carrie. You laid it out here. You also jump out of planes for fun. Dishonesty is never a real solution, but I think you know that. Have you made an agreement to pay her back the money you borrowed from her? That would be a huge step in reestablishing your confidence in yourself, and demonstrating that appreciation to her as a person. Grandams also tend to have been around a little - and usually can see lies when they're told. She may already know that you were dishonest with her. Can you imagine how she'd feel if she knew you were lying, and you chose to go back and tell her the truth? I know if you were my child, I would have a much higher level of respect for you if you were to do that. It also shows her a respect for yourself - inasmuch as you are not willing to take money under less than honest circumstances, but are willing to be honest and handle your lumps as they arrive.

Your dishonesty hurts no-one moreso than yourself. You will be left with a feeling of worthlessness, I think, and that is not the truth. You are a valuable person who's managed to box herself into a corner. But there is nothing impossible about getting out. Stand and be true to yourself, and as a result, you will be able to stand and be true to the rest of the world. It's really hard to correct the path you're on, but it's not too late, ever, to change something if it needs to be changed.

You've taken it on the chin tonight, Carrie. But also understand that most of the people are saying what they're saying from a position of experience. They may not have said it nicely, or politely, or with any gentleness whatsoever, but they speak truly. When you've gotten past this rough patch, come back and re-read this, and realize how much these people care - they are willing to stake their friendship on a position which will be hard to swallow, but will only benefit you in the long run.

PM me if you need to vent. You'll make it through this, like you've made it through other trials in your life...and you'll see the other side of this, too.

Ciels-
Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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If you're going to go to jail, find a way to explain to the Judge the ramifications of it - screwing up your school, losing your place, losing your job. But take care to also explain that this has been a wake up call for you, and that you've taken it seriously. Most likely, the judge will take pity and give you some sort of modification - probation only, weekends in jail, I dunno, something like that.


And if all else fails, turn on the 'ol water works! :D

Michele - Many nice things were said, and valid points. However, not all grandmothers are nice and sweet. Just because you're a skydiver does not make you a good person. Just because you're a grandmother, does not make you a wonderful angel either. We can't assume to understand someone else's situation or relationships. She might try to do the right thing and be honest, and her grandmother calls her a lying whore and never speaks to her again. Kind of like that thread awhile ago when some girl kissed another guy, and everyone said "Be honest, you should tell him! It's the right thing to do!" she did, he dumped her, she regretted telling him. Honesty is not a "one size fits all" answer. Granted, if we were all perfect people, it would be. But we're not (except me, I have no faults)
it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

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I wouldn't spend money on a lawyer. If you are just a student with no family supporting you then you should qualify to have a lawyer appointed for you. A decent lawyer should keep you out of jail. Just be very respectful to the judge and don't make any excuses (unless you have a really good one that was completely out of your control). I wouldn't worry yourself sick about it.


"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

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Hi, Seth

I do agree with you...but honesty is the best policy in this situation, in my opinion. If grandma makes the decision to not talk to her because she screwed up and is asking for help, then that's also something Carrie needs to deal with. That's part of growing up. If nothing else, Carrie can be proud of being honest, and asking for assistance from a position of honesty. It is up to the other person how they will handle it.

I remember the thread you refer to. I am not sure that the comparison applies...

I do agree that if you're married to an abusive husband, telling him a fabrication to save your face from being whacked is prolly a good idea...however, that situation calls of other actions and steps.

As always, my opinion stands for me, and you, faultless as you are, are welcome to have a different one (even if it is wrong!;);) Hey - see the winky faces? I'm kidding here!!!!!!!!!)

Ciels-
Michele



~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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People are being mean and judgemental without knowing anything about the situation but a few lines of text in a post. And many of those same people have posted about things they have done that I find appalling. I certainly wouldn't condemn them publicly on what little I know, though.


I hate to disagree with you Jess, but what else would you expect when you post on here? Unlike the many rumors on Wreck Dot, we aren't all warm and fuzzy. You post here, you obviously expect a response. That's what people give you.

Yeah, we've all found ourselves in a jam at some point or another. My grandma's bailed me out more than enough times. I'm in a much different situation; I can tell her the truth...she gets a kick out of teaching me lessons.
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However, not all grandmothers are nice and sweet.



Her grandmother has to be pretty nice if she gave her the money in the first place. Michele did make a good point though when she said...

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Your dishonesty hurts no-one moreso than yourself.



Again, Carrie, you have to live with the consequences of your actions. Every time you see or talk to your grandmother, you're going to remember your dishonesty. Can you live with that?
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

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I remember the thread you refer to. I am not sure that the comparison applies...


Eh, in a way it is similar. People what to act all righteous, and say "You're a bad person! Just tell the truth!" when in reality it may not be the best option for the person, and chances are the person preaching it might not actually take the high road themselves. Hell, I've bent stories before to family or friends just because I didn't want to hear another lecture about what a stupid thing I had done. I already knew it, I didn't want to hear it a couple more times. I don't know, maybe everyone else in the world has warm and fuzzy, non-judegemental friends and family.

Not everyone comes here looking for sympathy, advice, judgement, or a reaction - sometimes people just want to vent. You can't really do that here without people offering their pennies. Carrie just hasn't figured that out yet :)
it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

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