dropdeded 0 #1 December 12, 2002 My regular instructor Has a Skydive bumper sticker,didnt talk to him much about it yet but he told me yes,he jumps,jumped.allthough its been about 4 years. Yesterday we had a sub teacher,same class.This guy was friggin awesome!I dont know much about the military terms he was using but he mentioned he jumped with the Rangers I believe it was.I threw out there that I recently had a cast removed due to a low turn while sport parachuting.(This is a CPR and FIRST AID class. The whole class he would toss out medical"what ifs" that involved aircraft exits,landings etc...His discription of different types of cuts,lacerations,punctures all involved landing in a tree.It was just a cool class,thought I'd share it. Final note,Guy was talking about HALO and T-10? or -T-11?,got an idea but not sure what that is. dropdeded pcss#26------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 December 12, 2002 HALO-High Altitude(Exit) Low Opening. Military term for free fall parachuting. There is also HAHO type of jump and more properly reffered to as MFF-Military Free Fall. T-10.....standard round parachute used in Military static line jumps. It's round...drops you like a rock and the only "steering" you have is pulling on risers. They also occasionally use a -1C (Dash 1 Charlie) It has "cut outs" in the back and steering toggles. 8Knt forward drive. Still lands like a sack of shit though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pd190 0 #3 December 12, 2002 I'd like to second the motion on "landing like a bag of shit!" Lots of "Bag O' Shit" landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 December 12, 2002 Quote Lots of "Bag O' Shit" landings Yep...out of my 72 S/L's I think I can remember maybe 2 that I would say were.."Soft" I timed my riser let up and just happened to catch a thermal off the taxi way, which I missed by about 1 foot, and I could have probably stood up that T-10 landing. The other was in Alaska, landing on tundra under a -1C, so I'm not sure that one counts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #5 December 12, 2002 Clay, Did you do any hunting in Alaska? I assume you were at either Fairbanks or Anchorage. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #6 December 12, 2002 Quote Did you do any hunting in Alaska? Unfortunately not. I was only there for about 2 weeks on TDY. Just dropped some bombs, made some S/L jumps, and went "camping" for a few days. I learned that the last thing you ever want to do is drive ANYTHING on the tundra in the summertime. We managed to get two 4X4 trucks stuck up to the frame. Had to get them pulled out by a SUSV. If I had had a license and a rifle I could have shot several moose (Saw some HUGE bulls) and several nice Carabou too. All I got to do up there was some fishing and a LOT of drinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #7 December 12, 2002 QuoteHALO-High Altitude(Exit) Low Opening. Military term for free fall parachuting. This is a good point Clay - most jumps that sport jumpers make would be considered HALO by military standards (I believe). I think there are some qualifications, like must have 5 seconds of freefall at least and be over 5,000 feet AGL to start, or something like that. Good trivia when you're at the bar talking to your friendly neighborhood Army Ranger. I couldn't find a good definition of HALO on the net - anyone know what the qualifications are?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #8 December 12, 2002 Quote anyone know what the qualifications are? Not really sure if anyone "defines" the difference. It's all relative anyway. Those guys normal deployment alti is 4500Ft. The FF-2 (AAD) fires at 3000FT. That's a waste of a skydive for me but if you're wearing oxygen, a 120Lb ruck, and a weapon it's good to have the extra time to deal with any problems. Also throw in the fact that it is normally a night jump and in a "real world" situation the DZ will probably not be marked. What fun..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #9 December 12, 2002 I always though it would have been great to go through HALO school. We used to gear up next to the HALO building at Bragg for our static line jumps. I always thought that getting paid to tail gate a C-130 would be the life. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #10 December 12, 2002 Quote I always though it would have been great to go through HALO school Me too......I got seriously screwed out of going my last year in the Air Force. The training guy got 4 slots for our squadron. I was the division TACP NCOIC so they asked if I had anyone to send. I thought hard but since I was getting out in like 7 months I passed. I told them to give it to one of the guys in the BN's that would be sticking around for awhile. What a dumbass I was. Turns out they only used 2 of the slots and GAVE the other two away!!! Farkin assholes. Hell...one of the morons flunked because he couldn't manage to pull at 4500Ft. Nice guys always finish last...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #11 December 12, 2002 I always thought that getting paid to tail gate a C-130 would be the life. Steve1 __________________________________________________ Yeah,sounds close to what the instructor said.Something about not paying to do something you love to do ,instead,getting paid. Just a way cool dude with some way cool experiences.(some pretty bad experiences too I would imagine) dropdeded------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #12 December 12, 2002 Quote Something about not paying to do something you love to do ,instead,getting paid UUuhhh....when you are about to exit an airplane in 35+ winds, at night, with 200Lbs of equipment strapped to you....I imagine you're glad you're getting paid...and have a great medical plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #13 December 13, 2002 HALO stands for High Altitude Low Opening. Skydiving is skydiving and Military freefall is Military freefall ,one is fun, one is a little less fun depending on what your doing. MFF RAM air chutes are as big ,if not bigger than most tandem rigs, made out F-111 and use either the FF-2 or AR2. The AR2 has problems and isn't used. The FF2 works much like a cypress,except that it is externally mounted and is a seperate piece of equipment from the rig and is mechanical in operation. Since the MC-4 parachute is a ripcord activated, spring pilot chute deployed, the FF2 pulls the closeing pin instead of cutting like the cypress. The FF2 activation altitude is calculated using what we call a "wiz" wheel. Based on several factors which are lined up on the wiz wheel a numerical setting is designated for the FF2. The numerical setting is dialed in by the jumper and installed on the rig in the FF2 pocket and attached to the closing pin. Unless your strapping a 120 lb rucksack, a weapon and an O2 bottle to your rig it's just a skydive. With all the gear you clear your air space at 6, wave off at 5 and pull at 4. With all that crap on you want a little bit more altitude in case you have a malfunction. It's even more fun when you do it at night. Imagine having to stop a spin induced by your rucksack, keep an eye on your team and your altimeter all in the pitch black, it's anything but fun."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
