I wish my reserve were in date.

[Jessica 0]

If it were, I'd go make some jumps tomorrow before work.

There's no one around to pack it. Sigh.

This is why I want my rigger's ticket.

I haven't jumped in a MILLYUN YEARS.

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[PhreeZone 20]

You did a hop and pop 2 weeks ago

Here is a pen.... pack your reserve.

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[Jessica 0]

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You did a hop and pop 2 weeks ago

That doesn't count. I was scared under canopy trying to find the stupid DZ under all that snow.

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Here is a pen.... pack your reserve.

I can't...I'd get busted.

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[billvon 3,120]

>I can't...I'd get busted.

Well, you'd definitely get busted if you tell everyone you're going to do it!

[weid14 0]

oh good grief, I was at the manifest checking in once and they handed me a pen, and said I have to look at the computer for a second you might want to fix your paper work, while I look something up....

[Jessica 0]

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oh good grief, I was at the manifest checking in once and they handed me a pen, and said I have to look at the computer for a second you might want to fix your paper work, while I look something up....

Ha!!!!! I'd never get away with that where I jump. They sent me an e-mail warning me that I couldn't jump until I could provide proof of repacking, and my rigger is on the DZ staff.

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[weid14 0]

yeah, my rigger is not to happy when it gets done, What really frosts him though is when other riggers do it (he has polaroids).

[PhreeZone 20]

Thats the main reason I'm getting my ticket... if I want to repack it in 30 seconds I will. Since its my ticket on the line I'll just have to live with it if it fails

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I wish I had a date in reserve....

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[jtval 0]

Ive got the same prob!
My reserve is due on christmas eve. I was gonna get it repacked on saturday but the dz was closed..>IT WAS RAINING IN VEGAS! WTF!?

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I wish I had a date in reserve....

I resemble that remark... can I borrow it?

[RevJim 0]

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Thats the main reason I'm getting my ticket... if I want to repack it in 30 seconds I will. Since its my ticket on the line I'll just have to live with it if it fails

I hope that's not the only reason.....

One of my friends made this comment to me. I asked him if he was sure, then went on to explain that if he really just wanted to know his system inside and out that he should ask a rigger to allow him to watch the entire re-pack and inspection

Starting on your way to a Senior Rigger ticket is a difficult process, to say the least (I know, I am). He said that well, he was sick of the prices being charged (like $50 a repack). I said, well, you have one rig. $50 a repack is $150 a year. When I told him it would be a number of years to just pay for the basic rigging tools (in savings from not paying a rigger), not to mention the time involved, he changed his mind. As I have found out, if you have never seen a particular main/reserve/container, you are looking at 8 hours of labor to do an in depth inspection on all components, and put it back together. That's about $6.25 an hour by what he has to pay, $5 an hour by what I pay. Is that worth it? To me it is, to many it is not.

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[jtval 0]

And they say there is no money in Skydiving!
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[riddler 0]

I think most people agree that a four-month repack is stupid anyway. Although, I'm sure people that make money from it think it's great. Four-month repack is fine for silk reserves, but unecessary for newer materials. I've never penciledn in a repack, but other than breaking the rules, I don't see the harm. As long as you keep your gear in good condition (avoid water, oil, etc), then it should open fine.

Let me just add that I am NOT a rigger, so the things I say about gear are probably completely wrong. I saw an article in Parachutist that hinted at extending the repack to 6 months (again) - anyone have any word about that?

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[Pammi 0]

I hear ya! AFter much arguing about how unnecessary it was and nearly a catfight, we received the best Xmas gift ever though, a repack from a good friend (she even delivered it to her DZ for us so we could get it sooner then when we had time to drive down to get it there!) There are some really great people out there, to put it mildly.

Pam

[PhreeZone 20]

>As I have found out, if you have never seen a particular main/reserve/container, you are looking at 8 hours of labor to do an in depth inspection on all components, and put it back together.

Under the eyes of a Master rigger I can and do a complete reserve/container inspection in under an hour and a half. Thats every seam looked at and grommet checks on all the rig. I'm still learning the packing but with the RWS video I've got it down to an hour on the reserve and 30 minutes to close. I leave the main up to the jumper unless they ask.

I've got a source thats making me and my Girlfriend a lot of our tools for free. And some of these tools rock, like screw apart bodkins, aircraft aluminium crank plates, anodized or rockwell harded everything

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[Hooknswoop 19]

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I think most people agree that a four-month repack is stupid anyway. Although, I'm sure people that make money from it think it's great.

I would prefer to re-pack a reserve once every 6 months, instead of every 4 months and make less money.

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Four-month repack is fine for silk reserves, but unecessary for newer materials.

60 days for silk reserves.

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I've never penciledn in a repack, but other than breaking the rules, I don't see the harm. As long as you keep your gear in good condition (avoid water, oil, etc), then it should open fine.

The problem is maintence. Jumpers either don't know or don't care when something on their rig needs to fixed/replaced until their rigger points it out to them. Jumpers will expose a rig to "water, oil, etc", and continue jumping it without a second thought.

I think the issue is not whether a rig will work after 5 months and 30 days of being packed, but after that time, how much needs repairing. these days, that could be 600+ jumps on a rig. Cypres beteries need to be replaced after 500 jumps. How many jumper keep track of how many jumps they put on their cypres batteries so that they will replace them after 500? (If they get to 500 before 2 years). I get rigs all the time with the batteries due for the 2 year replacement and the owner had no clue that they were due, much less how many jump were on them. I won't pack a reserrve if the cypres batteries are due in less than 4 months without replacing the batteries first. Why? because i can't trust the average jumper to bring the rig back to get the batteries replaced before they are due. If the re-pack cycle was 6 months and the batteries are due in 5 months, what do you do? Losing 5 months of battery life would suck. The fact is, too many jumpers do not take good enough care of their equipment to extend the re-pack cycle to 6 months. Some do, but that is enough justification to extend the re-pack cycle. Heck, I think a lot of jumpers wouldn't bother getting a re-pack if manifest wouldn't let them get on the airplane without an in-date reserve.

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[PhreeZone 20]

>I think a lot of jumpers wouldn't bother getting a re-pack if manifest wouldn't let them get on the airplane without an in-date reserve.

Do you mean Jumpers would'nt get a repack if manifest did'nt require proff of a repack indate to get on the plane?

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[Hooknswoop 19]

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>I think a lot of jumpers wouldn't bother getting a re-pack if manifest wouldn't let them get on the airplane without an in-date reserve.

Do you mean Jumpers would'nt get a repack if manifest did'nt require proff of a repack indate to get on the plane? .

An in-date reserve is proof of a re-pack. Whether or not it is forged or falsified is another matter.

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[billvon 3,120]

>The fact is, too many jumpers do not take good enough care of
>their equipment to extend the re-pack cycle to 6 months.

If jumpers cannot be relied upon to take basic care of their gear, even a repack cycle of 2 months is too long. (How long can a rig go between repacks if it is saturated with water?) You cannot replace gear care with frequent repacks.

The people most qualified to decide how often the reserve and container need to be repacked/inspected are the reserve and container manufacturers. They know the most about the system, and they generally will be held liable for its failure.

[MattM 0]

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I think most people agree that a four-month repack is stupid anyway. Although, I'm sure people that make money from it think it's great.

They get stiff over time.... I think it's a great rule. Just my .02 cents.

Matt

[PhreeZone 20]

They are as stiff at 3 months as they are at 3 years. I'm all for a 6 month inspection like the rest of the world seems to have. Less abuse to my reserve so its in better shape.

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[Hooknswoop 19]

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=322903;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

This thread is an example of what
I mean. It is true that 4 months can be too long if a jumper really trashes their gear, but it seems OK for the average jumper. Generally 4 months is soon enough to catch any problems before the jumper puts a lot of jumps on it. 4 months is too soon for some gear and not soon enough for other gear. I think if the gear was taken care of, a 6 month re-pack cycle would be better, but I see so many things wrong with gear when it comes in for a 4 month re-pack. Jumpers either don't know or don't care enough about their gear.

Hook