adamT 0 #26 December 31, 2002 I think the winner may pretend that its not that big of a deal. If for no other reason except to save face. But if they really think about they will probably be well off anyway because they just spent a season on tv. Even the stupidist of people seem to be able to turn that into future income pretty easily. As far as the morals of the whole thing, i have no comment. The media and morals have been strangers to eachother for a long time now, something like this seems pretty natural at this point. adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #27 December 31, 2002 QuoteThe media and morals have been strangers to eachother for a long time now, something like this seems pretty natural at this point. Television is a consumer product. If no one watched crap like this, it wouldn't run.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #28 December 31, 2002 You know, whoever wins will get a spread in Playboy...kachink! _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #29 December 31, 2002 Quote Quote How the heck that makes you more valuable as a person I'll never know. well, more money generally signifies ambition, and those that are drawn to money typically lack ambition and are, well, lazy gold digging selfish people who only garner their own self worth by living through someone elses success... I'm confused by this. If money signifies ambition, then isn't attraction to money the same as attraction to ambition? And to some extent aren't we all motivated to be those things that attract us? My boyfriend is extremely ambitious about money, although when we met he was penniless. I was attracted partly to his ambitiousness, although it could have been any ambition -- to be an astronaut or paint beautifully or lead armies. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygal3 0 #30 December 31, 2002 I'm not calling you scum, Narcimund...I was generalizing female gold diggers as a whole. I am sure if I put more thought into it, I could elaborate a bit more if that would make you more comfy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyboyblue 0 #31 December 31, 2002 How fucked up is this guy's love life going to be after this show is over and every chick on this planet has seen him lie for how many weeks? This guy won't be able to get a date to save his life. then again, he'll probably get paid a shit load of cash and be a millionaire anyways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #32 December 31, 2002 Quote I'm not calling you scum, Narcimund Oh goodie! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #33 December 31, 2002 My last girlfriend should've gone on that show. According to her : "Monogamy only works until you meet a good-looking man with lots of money". Pity there aren't any loaded sheep out there for you Clay! Will PS if you can't be happy without lots of money, I don't think having lots of money will complete your life and make you happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #34 December 31, 2002 When I got married, I was a timber faller and drove a beat up old Datsun pickup. My wife accepted me for who I was, but her family had huge misgivings. It's taken over 20 years to finally gain their acceptance. Such is life. Nobody said it was going to be fair. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #35 December 31, 2002 Quote Television is a consumer product. If no one watched crap like this, it wouldn't run. It certianly is, wich is why i hardly watch any. Not that it makes a difference, consumerism is the US's life blood. This country wouldn't exist in its present form if people didn't buy so much worthless junk. TV is still the best way to tell the mindless masses what the want and need. Public school helps out in preventing the majority of each sucessive generation from knowing that they are actually afraid of thinking for themselves. /rant adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #36 December 31, 2002 I watch all the stupid reality shows and I can't wait for this one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #37 December 31, 2002 They had an interesting take on this whole topic of women wanting a mate with financial success, on some show on Human Sexuality on the Discovery Channel (or TLC, I forget which) - the idea being that women were partially predisposed (either due to genetics or socialogical imprinting) to look for a mate that was capable of providing for her future offspring - whereas the male was more prone to look for a female that showed signs of fertility - thus why men seem to chase women based on looks and why women seem to chase guys based on money. "I can't help staring at her boobies, my genes made me do it." In either case, the show will be a love or hate thing - depending on how one views Fox poking at the social taboo that people would date based on money or appearance. I figure it's gonna be hilarious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #38 December 31, 2002 Well, maybe it's cause' I don't want kids, but that doesn't apply to me. Money is nice, but love is better and if you have the two, more power to you, but you really only truly need the later. I'm attracted to guys who put their heart and care into whatever they do, money or not, as long as they're doing something with themselves.Oh, but back on the subject, I'm sure whatever woman he picks/picks him won't be TOO dissappointed b/c with all the publicity the show will get, they're bound to get some kinda deal out of it, 50M or not. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #39 December 31, 2002 No kids huh, thats kinda a shame. You sound as if you would make a really good mother. adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #40 December 31, 2002 Thank youWhile I do possess a bit of a maternal instinct w/ friends, loved ones and ESPECIALLY animals, I have never wanted children. I have tutored children, taught them to swim in my swim business I had for two years, volunteered at the Boys and Girl's Club, etc. but I'm VERY happy to give them back when I'm done. I'd make a GREAT "Auntie Carrie" but none of my own. Just as much as it can be an unselfish act to HAVE them, I think it can be very unselfish to NOT HAVE them. FUNNY STORY: At Panera Bread one morning, while waiting in their infamous bagel line, the CUTEST little boy was looking at the floor, holding on to his mom's leg, who was wearing jeans and pumps, and jumping around on the tile squares. When she moved up, so did I, I was also wearing jeans and stilletto boots, he kept jumping, only grabbed my leg on accident and was holding on, jumping around. He was so cute and so sweet and I thought, "Now, why don't I like this again?" Same kid, when mom told him he couldn't have a cookie and needed to pick out a muffin, or something instead forf breakfast, started SCREAMING and whinning and carrying on...I thought, "Oh, Yup. That's why!" Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #41 December 31, 2002 Carrie, Does BZ also not want to have kids? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #42 December 31, 2002 Quote started SCREAMING and whinning and carrying on...I thought, "Oh, Yup. That's why!" But when they are yours.....you can take them outside and BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THEM.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #43 December 31, 2002 Quote But when they are yours.....you can take them outside and BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THEM.. Well Clay, you finally crossed the line. Joking about child abuse is not a very nice thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #44 December 31, 2002 My mother just showed me an article about the show thats coming on in the Macon telegraph...and one of the girls that participated was someone I grew up with and knew from like the 6th grade. Jennifer Snell. I always knew she was the lil miss priss type but never knew she was a Gold Digger. Im really anxious to see what all she does to try and get the money or whatever. But even more so the finale when they find out he only makes 19K a year. They did an interview with her and she said that she only did it because she wanted to get away for a while which Im sure is just something she is saying to cover up the type of person she really is. But just my input.- GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #45 December 31, 2002 QuoteJoking about child abuse is not a very nice thing Dude...who's talking about child abuse? Sometimes kids need to be spanked......I'm a firm believer in that. That being said I have spanked my son since he was two. Are you saying that a parent should never be allowed to strike their child in any manner? If you are.....I hope I don't have to be near any of your children.....ever......I'm sure they will be obnoxious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #46 December 31, 2002 Whoa Sparky!!! I guess I took your words "BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THEM" as being extreme. There is a big difference between a spanking and child abuse. I definitely believe in spanking, when it is necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #47 December 31, 2002 Again I must agree with Clay. "Spare the rod, Spoil the child." I was brought up being spanked and will do the same to my children. There is a difference between spanking someone and beating them. A spanking more or less hurts the childs heart as well as there ass and abuse would fall in the category of leaving bruises and such all over the body. This is what my parents always told me anyhow. "I brought you into this world and I can damn-well take you out of it." If you dont spank your kids then thats your perogative. And yet at the same time calling abuse on someone elses rearing habits is not your place.- GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #48 December 31, 2002 Quote I definitely believe in spanking, when it is necessary. Wheeewww....started to get concerned for you. BTW.....that whinning kids Mom.....probably never spanks him. If I had done that when I was a kid...trust me....my Mom would have broken out the riding crop and tore my ass up. I didn't do obnoxious stuff like that when I was a kid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #49 December 31, 2002 QuoteI definitely believe in spanking, when it is necessary. Tee-hee....Me too...Oh, you were talking about children, huh?? Lol...(Uhh,wrong thread, FFF) FFF A Hard On Doesn't Count As Personal Growth "Upon seeing the shadow of a pigeon, one must resist the urge to look up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #50 December 31, 2002 Quote I didn't do obnoxious stuff like that when I was a kid. You just make up for that now dont ya Clay. - GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites