suz 0 #1 January 5, 2003 WTF is happening to the world? I just moved home with my parents, as most of you should already know, because I've moaned and groaned about it for a while now. Anyway! the only room I could move into was downstairs, and before I could move any of my furniture inside, I had to move all the old junk out of the room. Which took me a few good hours. The room became a junk yard, it had old wardrobes, an organ that I overheated when I was 7yrs old, which for some reason, my father keeps to remind me.() I told my father I'd take a few things to the local dump for him, and he said no, because the dump charges you $10 to unload GARBAGE!!!!! How ridiculous is that? I can't fuckin' believe it! I hate buying bottled water, because I believe that you shouldn't need to pay to replenish your essential needs. But having to pay to dump friggin' rubbish is just that, RUBBISH! Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #2 January 5, 2003 If you believe that you shouldn't pay for your basic needs, then please tell me, who should? First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suz 0 #3 January 5, 2003 Perhaps I mislead you.....do you honestly think you should pay for water? Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #4 January 5, 2003 If I rely on other people to bring me water, then yes, I should pay for the service. If I can find my own water independently without impacting others' property, then no I should not. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #5 January 5, 2003 suz baby, burn all your belongings, house included. you will be free of posessions and can come and be a beach bum with me. you should see my tan! jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suz 0 #6 January 5, 2003 So that's where you've been!? I thought they threw you in the lock up after your last attempt of public nudity!!!! *giggles* About burning my possesions....do you think maybe I should sell them so I can by me some tanning lotion and join you? My tan is fading AND! it's mid summer! (WTF I hear you say?! - I hear ya!) Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suz 0 #7 January 5, 2003 QuoteIf I rely on other people to bring me water, then yes, lol!!! sure! I agree, because the only time people would bring me water is if I'm way too drunk to get my own...we dont tip in Australia, so I'm sticking with the fact that you shouldn't have to pay for water. Although, give it a good 20years, and it'll be a strange thing to have your water for free...Hell when you got to pay to dump rubbish, anything can happen! Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #8 January 5, 2003 Quotedo you honestly think you should pay for water? I pay for it(not much),and i think its okay to be reminded that there are limited of it.. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #9 January 5, 2003 Quote Quote do you honestly think you should pay for water? I pay for it(not much),and i think its okay to be reminded that there are limited of it.. We pay for air too -- skyventure makes an assload off it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #10 January 5, 2003 Some countries in Europe have an air tax (on polluting cars). I think that we'll see the air tax everywhere soon enough at the rate this is going. Just to pay for the clean-up of the atmosphere. It'll get interesting when you have to pay for air. And I agree with narcimund. The retrieval and bottling of water is a service, supplied by people. For those people, it's a job. They expect to get paid. If you don't pay them by buying the bottles, you'll pay through taxes. So I think it's quite fair. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #11 January 5, 2003 Quotedo you honestly think you should pay for water? Unless you're lucky enough to have a spring on your property then yes, I think you should pay for water. If youi're buying bottled water than realize that someone is paying to have the water purified, realize that those plastic bottles aren't free, realize that delivery to your local grocery store isn't free. Exactly why is it that you think it should be free? If you're drinking tap water then again realize that someone is paying money to purify and deliver the water to your house. I suppose if it makes you feel better you can think of water as free and purification, delivery, and/or packaging as a premium service that you must pay for. QuoteHell when you got to pay to dump rubbish What? Again you think it's free to operate a land fill? That charge also helps to deter people from just throwing anything away when it may be able to be recycled or reused. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #12 January 5, 2003 Quote Some countries in Europe have an air tax (on polluting cars). In DK you pay les tax for les polution.When it started,the stat gave a bonus if you dumped your old polutin car,on a artoriced place(means you got aprox 4-500$ instead of paying 2-300$els..) I do belive that its the car industri that keeps us to the fuel we use today.There are made cars who drive good as other cars,but dont polute as much.it will allways polute some to make a kind of fuel,unless you buy a suncar,but thous dont prefom the same.. Then again,who would like a big monster car who dont make noise Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #13 January 5, 2003 Quote What? Again you think it's free to operate a land fill? That charge also helps to deter people from just throwing anything away when it may be able to be recycled or reused. Hey be positive,the least thing you pay for would be your funal,but then again if you use ALL your mony on jumps now,then your incurence have to payOkay enouf of my Black humor Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #14 January 5, 2003 There are hydrogen powered cars. Their only significant exhaust is H2O. They make clouds. They're not in production yet though. Might be a little dangerous to drive with a tank full of pure pressurized hydrogen, but I don't know anything about how they're built, so don't ask me -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #15 January 5, 2003 Nah me either...But i did see some cars on Discovery(under develop),that sure impressed me Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #16 January 5, 2003 There are some very interesting things in that arena. Water powered cars, for instance. I don't think we'll really see any of them on the roads until fuel price goes to about $10 USD per gallon. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #17 January 5, 2003 QuoteI hate buying bottled water, because I believe that you shouldn't need to pay to replenish your essential needs. But having to pay to dump friggin' rubbish is just that, RUBBISH! Sorry to hear that you are forced to move back home with your parents .. but I agree with Jimbo -- in fact, I almost posted just what he said ... but I took time to read all the responses before posting. Someone spent a lot of money setting up that bottled water plant, and the workers need to earn a decent wage ... and you can bet the shareholders want their cut, too! The charge at the landfill will should make us think twice about how much "stuff" we accumulate. Are any of the items in the basement recycleable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #18 January 5, 2003 chiquita, life on the beach is nice, but i need power to work the computer. so from time to time i just plug myself in at a local coffee shop and lurkIt's mid summer in Florida too. then again it is always mid summer in Florida. i still opt for burning posessions. By the way did you know that the biggest bottled water seller in the world is NESTLE? So i call: down with globalization, down with corporations, down with governments, hail anarchy, ANARCHY!!!! jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #19 January 5, 2003 Quotei need power to work the computer ... down with corporations Corporations bring you the power and the computers. Who's going to provide your comfy goodies after the revolution comes? Who's going to bring you coffee and sew your parachute and butcher the hog? First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #20 January 5, 2003 why syndicates of local citizens of course, my boy! Anarchy is a value in itself. i will kill the pig, suz will do the shute and you can work the little water mill providing power. governments and corporations are evil. CHAOS rules! the SPECTRE of revolution is roaming the streets!jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,100 #21 January 5, 2003 I think Suz is funnin' you . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #22 January 5, 2003 Quote why syndicates of local citizens of course, my boy! Anarchy is a value in itself. i will kill the pig, suz will do the shute and you can work the little water mill providing power. governments and corporations are evil. CHAOS rules! the SPECTRE of revolution is roaming the streets! With all my views about the World... I AM NOT GIVING UP TOILET PAPER for leaves!_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #23 January 5, 2003 Quotewhy syndicates of local citizens of course, my boy! Anarchy is a value in itself. i will kill the pig, suz will do the shute and you can work the little water mill providing power. governments and corporations are evil. CHAOS rules! the SPECTRE of revolution is roaming the streets! I've been waitin' fer the revolution for some 38 years now... Here's a word of advice -- don't hold your breath. Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
