AggieDave 6 #26 January 14, 2003 Damnit, I hate it when I can't get something right and its not because I'm doing it wrong, its because its hard and I just can't do it yet... Well, I've planned a few hours in my day to work on this some more...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beeron 0 #27 January 14, 2003 Dave....hand position is the key to playing bar chords (especially in the lower positions...ie "F"). Try to think of your thumb and fingers as a vice around the neck of the guitar. Thumb should be centered on the back of the neck and your fingers should be close to 90 degrees over the top of the fret. It'll take some practice, but once you get used to holding your hand in that position, it will eliminate the "buzzing" or "muting" that you're currently experiencing. Hope that helps. B~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #28 January 14, 2003 Great explanation. It would also help to ease the frustration by barring higher up on the neck at first, then bring it down to first position as you build strength. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beeron 0 #29 January 14, 2003 Yes...that's also a great idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #30 January 14, 2003 Dave I'll help you out with it this weekend. Bring the guitar to the DZ7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #31 January 14, 2003 F is a bitch but you don't have to bridge the entire first fret. Just the first two strings. F should look like this (numbers equal fingers index=1, pinky=4) ....fret4....fret3....fret2....fret1 --+------+------+------+-------+- (don't strum this string) --+------+------+------+-------+- (don't strum this string) --+------+---3--+------+-------+- }Head end --+------+------+--2---+-------+- --+------+------+------+---1---+- --+------+------+------+---1---+- *Here's the bridge QuoteAnother question, the book I'm learning from doesn't explain how to read tabs when done like this: Main Riff e|--------------------------------------------| B|-------4------------------------------------| G|-------4------------------------------------| D|-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--2-2-2--3-3-3--3-3--4-4--5-5-| A|-2-2-2---2-2-2--2-2-2--3-3-3--3-3--4-4--5-5-| E|-0-0-0---0-0-0--0-0-0--1-1-1--1-1--2-2--3-3-| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Could someone explain that too? TAB is easy, you have your six strings and the number on the string corresponds to the fret you will hold. I'm sure you know the D chord, Here is the D chord in TAB: ------2--------- ------3--------- ------2--------- ---------------- get it? ---------------- ---------------- Edit: upside down chord and explanation above My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #32 January 14, 2003 Quote and your thumb wrapped round the neck to supply the low F on the base E string (maybe someone can explain that better.....) dave, thumb over is not a good habit to learn early. should be used AFTER you have muscle memory of correct form. trust me. your tendons will thank you for it. and easy way to play an F is like a barre with out the barre and stay off the 6th string. it also allows for easy transitions into other open chords e|-X------------------------------------------| B|-1------------------------------------------| G|-2------------------------------------------| D|-3------------------------------------------| A|-3------------------------------------------| E|-X------------------------------------------| X-mute (or just dont play) the fingering is easy, start on the b string with your index finger and just start dropping little hammer like fingertips. easy, cheesy party song F!namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #33 January 14, 2003 goose, your D tab is upside down. it's not nice to confuse newbies namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #34 January 14, 2003 Could be an F#7b5 fragment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #35 January 14, 2003 Quote Could be an F#7b5 fragment ah shaddup!namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #36 January 14, 2003 OK, how about an E9#5, then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #37 January 14, 2003 Quote goose, your D tab is upside down. it's not nice to confuse newbies Your absolutely right, I thought I have fixed it before clicking "post" Sorry Dave, I fixed it now, also explained TAB above the diagram. Check it out, Hope that clears it up My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #38 January 14, 2003 Quote OK, how about an E9#5, then? lemme be in peace, im just a bass player! lmaonamaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #39 January 14, 2003 Mingus, look out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #40 January 14, 2003 Goose, your tab of the F can be very confusing for someone not familiar with it. Standard tab notation generally follows this figure N E|--+-+-+-+--+ \ ---| B B|--+-+-+-+--+ / ---| R U G|--+-+-+-+--+ \ ---| I D|--+-+-+-+--+ / ---| D T A|--+-+-+-+--+ \ ---| G E|--+-+-+-+--+ / ---| E 3 5 7 9 1 2 just so we are all on the same page...namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #41 January 14, 2003 The F is not in TAB. mine was a diagram (see fret1..... fret4, and "head end") Plain english for easy F chord 1. Bar the first fret for first and second strings (from bottom) with index 2. Hold down second fret on third string with middle finger 3. Hold down third fret on fourth string with ring finger get it? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chivo 0 #42 January 14, 2003 Try downloading software from the web... look for Super Guitar Chord Finder. There are many others... this is just one of them. It helps you tune your guitar, and also plays the chords (so you have a reference point). You can select the chord, say F#7, and it will display how to put your fingers. It even displays 1 or 2 variations of making the same chord. And plays it for you (so you know what that chord should sound like on your guitar). It helped me when I started learning. Later, Chivo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
