skydiverek 63 #1 August 16, 2002 Check the attached photo. Now that's a 'low pull' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #2 August 16, 2002 damn talk about waiting till the last second. what airshow was that at??if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #3 August 16, 2002 That would be one hell of a rush . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antithesis 0 #4 August 16, 2002 Holy shit! his parachute doesn't even apear to be inflated at what ..50 ft from the ground.. not to mention the minor twist in his lines. Whoa, lucky him! I travel the land, Work in the ocean, Play in the sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 August 16, 2002 The Russians have a wonderful 0/0/0 ejection system that can be used with 0 forward speed, 0 vertical speed and 0 altitude and it will still work perfectly. As long as the system is pointing up it will work. The US systems have'nt caught up to this last I looked into the topic.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 August 16, 2002 Quotewhat airshow was that at?? 1989 Perris Airshow. It's a fairly famous crash. More photos HEREquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #7 August 16, 2002 the latest Martin Baker system are 0/0/0 and they are in the F22 Raptor.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #8 August 16, 2002 damn the pilot just about got blown up..if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fudd 0 #9 August 16, 2002 Saw a documetary about this crash which was during an airshow. The pilot didn't eject before the last second because he did all he could do to steer the misbehaving plane away from the crowd. That's heroic, and almost costed him his life. Think of having to pull your reserve at below 500' to save someones life. Would you have done it, or wipped out sooner??? There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #10 August 16, 2002 at 500' i would be a wimp. that guy must need a a fork lift to carry his sack around.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #11 August 16, 2002 What an amazing photo... wonder if they were using ISO 1600 film (looks like it.. the plane is still mostly "intact" before that 0.002 second crush it's fixing to go through). ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #12 August 16, 2002 Yep...that guy lived....He got full inflation just as he touched down. The US has great ejection seats on the newer fighters. It's the "Aces II" the only thing it doesn't do as well as the Russian seats is the High speed ejections. There have been several pilots killed in the last 5 years because of injuries sustained during high speed ejections. (Breaking the sound barrier in the seat!!!) I controlled a fly by in Korea for an F-16 pilot that was killed after he lost awareness under NVG's (Night vision) and ejected at over 700MPH. He made into his survival raft but the helo crew found him dead and couldn't revive him. The russian seats have a wind deflector and bars that keep your arms and legs from flailing. I think the newer ones even have a drogue to bleed off some speed before it seperates you from the seat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #13 August 16, 2002 I remember seeing that one on television when it happened. The pilot was really lucky that the field he landed in was soggy, because he hit pretty hard. Ejecting itself is pretty hard on the body. It must have been quite a ride. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #14 August 16, 2002 Very cool! Glad the pilot made it Thanks, This is my new wallpapper on the PC at work for the next little while. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #15 August 16, 2002 There is one instance of an american pilot surviving a supersonic ejection. A F-15E crew punched out at 760mph after their plane went into an uncontrollable dive. The pilot survived, though the weapons systems officer did not. The pilot suffered severe facial injuries from the windblast, but recovered. I saw an interview with him on a documentary about ejections. Also, it is rumored that at least one SR-71 crew ejected at mach 3 and 80,000 feet, but the extremely thin atmosphere made it equivalent to a subsonic ejection in the lower atmosphere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #16 August 16, 2002 >The US systems have'nt caught up to this last I looked into the >topic. Martin Baker builds 0/0 seats. In fact, some of them have a gyro that will right the pilot after ejection if he ejects from an unusual attitude at low altitude. Never seen one in action though. There was one early jet aircraft (F-86?) that had ejection seats that fired downward. There were a few cases of pilots trying to barrel roll before impact to be able to eject cleanly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #17 August 16, 2002 Quotethat had ejection seats that fired downward. The B-52 still has the downstairs positions that do that. Radar and Bomb Nav stations if I remember correctly. That whole ejection system is iffy anyway.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #18 August 16, 2002 I've seen this pic before - Never ceases to amaze me! Another one I've seen is a jet (F-14?) going through the sound barrier- mist cloud and all- REALLY cool! I'd love to get that in poster-size? Anybody know which photo I'm speaking of? The Phantoms I worked on (F-4Es and RF-FCs) all had Martin-Baker 0/0 seats in them. I witnessed a double punch-out at 200' agl and fairly low speed - the aircraft was doing touch-and-gos so I imagine they were around 200+ mph? Pilot was fine, the GIB had a minor spine crunch but was walking around after landing. Last I knew the B-52 still has one or two downward-ejecting seats- Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #19 August 16, 2002 I've heard that with the Russian models you could literly punch out with the jet parked on the tarmack and walk away from the bail. 0 Airspeed rocks...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #20 August 16, 2002 Heheehehee...funny story about the B-52's. Those downward firing seats have these little springloaded keepers that will pop out to keep your legs in place during ejection. They are in NO way connected to the rest of the firing sequence. All you have to do is sit down in the seat and put light pressure on the back of your calf. Pop!!!! They come out and then you can't get your legs out again until you restow them. It was HILARIOUS to see a new guy pop them and freak out cause he thought he was about to go for a ride!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #21 August 16, 2002 Quote>The US systems have'nt caught up to this last I looked into the >topic. Martin Baker builds 0/0 seats. In fact, some of them have a gyro that will right the pilot after ejection if he ejects from an unusual attitude at low altitude. Never seen one in action though. stop reading my posts and changing it a little to make yourself look smart...........I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 August 16, 2002 QuoteI've heard that with the Russian models you could literly punch out with the jet parked on the tarmack and walk away from the bail. The Aces II will do that no problem. The only problem is where you land. There was another F-16 pilot killed in Japan when he lost the engine during take off. He punched out successfully but the wind blew him right into the aircraft crash site which was now a roaring JP-8 fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #23 August 16, 2002 QuoteThe Russians have a wonderful 0/0/0 ejection system that can be used with 0 forward speed, 0 vertical speed and 0 altitude and it will still work perfectly. As long as the system is pointing up it will work. The US systems have'nt caught up to this last I looked into the topic. It's the K36 ejection seat, quite a piece of work really. If I recall, the K36 is a single handle system that upon activation shatters the canopy, repositions and secures the pilot for ejection, ejects with a stabilization system to keep the seat in the proper orientation, and will not activate the parachute system above 16,000 ft. Last I heard the US was in talks with the Russians to acquire this technology. It's quite amazing really. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #24 August 16, 2002 OK, sort of serious question. these ejector seats use round parachutes instead of squares. is that because there is less chance of them going wrong on opening or are they quiker on opening ? if the sport has progressed enough that most of us are jumping square mains with square reserves why do they use rounds for ejector seats. PS. I have never jumped a round myself so I know nothng about them.---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #25 August 16, 2002 not all ejection seats use rounds.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
