sharpfive 0 #1 January 19, 2003 I was told that entering the following code in a web page will make email-addie-gathering programs spam themselves. Anybody know if it's true? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #2 January 19, 2003 Deleted and edited: It will only work if the spammer has a really stupid email server, and then it will clog the 'postmaster' users email, which probably isn't the spammer's email. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #3 January 19, 2003 Sounded too good to be true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #4 January 19, 2003 I found some Javascript that was supposed to display your email on a web site but not allow an email spider to harvest the email. I used it on my site until I happened to run an email harvesting spider that I have on my own site and discovered that it would harvest the email even with the Javascript (I only run the tool on my own site to test it, I do not harvest email addresses and I do not spam). The other bad thing is that people who have Javascript disabled will not be able to see your email address. If anyone wants to see the script, let me know. I've gone back to a regular mailto link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #5 January 19, 2003 A somewhat easier solution is to put your email address in an image. It won't be clickable (so not recommend for a business site), but it won't get harvested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #6 January 19, 2003 Yeah, mine has to be clickable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #7 January 19, 2003 Make it clicky, but instead of the @ symobol, actually type "AT" (in caps), and make sure that you add a subject in as well with instructions to change the AT to @. Or add "NoSpam" to the end etc etc____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #8 January 19, 2003 Can those address harvesting programs pick up email addys that are clickable but hidden? Like on the bottom of the front page of my site... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #9 January 19, 2003 They normally look at the code of the webpage and pick out the "mailto" lines, so yes they should be able to get it.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #10 January 19, 2003 Lisa, check your email. You'd be surprised what those things can do! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #11 January 19, 2003 QuoteMake it clicky, but instead of the @ symobol, actually type "AT" (in caps), and make sure that you add a subject in as well with instructions to change the AT to @. Or add "NoSpam" to the end etc etc I've thought about that, but I'm not sure that's user friendly enough for all of my visitors (the non-techie ones). I'd rather just deal with the spam as best I can for now. I think I'm better off if I'm the one who has the hassles, not my customers. And I'm having fun giving Spam Assassin Pro a workout. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #12 January 19, 2003 Okay, I took a closer look and found that the Javascript actually does work (the spider was harvesting the email from the shopping cart buttons, not the Javascript). So, if you don't have shopping cart buttons that use an email address and if you just want an email link on your site that can't be harvested (and that won't show unless the viewer has Javascript enabled), let me know and I'll send you the code. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #13 January 19, 2003 I should clarify my last post. The only email address that gets harvested off the cart button is my own. The customer doesn't use his or her email address until he or she gets to the secure PayPal server, so the customer doesn't have to worry about being spammed as a result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #14 January 19, 2003 I would like to see the code. I'm sick of the RC minicar ads, the Nigerian scams, and NO, I do NOT need to increase my size!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #15 January 19, 2003 The Nigerian thing is a scam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky13500 0 #16 January 19, 2003 heard that too ~ it takes a minute to live....but a second to die ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #17 January 19, 2003 Quote The Nigerian thing is a scam? Oh oh, how much money did you send them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #18 January 20, 2003 The more fundamental question is why do you want to reply-spam the spammers? It would almost never get to the right person, and you risk being as bad as them by having your replies go to an innocent person. The reply addresses are usually either forged or invalid. If you are in a situation where you can do it, subscribe to a realtime blackhole list. Spamhaus and MAPS are good ones. If you aren't worried about missing messages, you can also just add the entire domain or IP block to your block list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #19 January 20, 2003 Yeah, I found out about the forged addresses. That would be bad news for the folks whose servers have been used to relay the garbage. I do block certain domains, but the onslaught continues. I will look into Spamhaus, thanks for the suggestion. BTW, your website told me I'm using Netscape, when in fact it's Mozilla. Thought you'd like to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #20 January 20, 2003 Is this for personal use, or are you looking to block spam at a company? If the latter, I can offer you some suggestions. QuoteBTW, your website told me I'm using Netscape, when in fact it's Mozilla. Thought you'd like to know. Yeah. My personal website is so far out of date that it isn't funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #21 January 20, 2003 It's the company mail I'm trying to filter. I'm getting about 150 spams each day. I edit my junk senders file to block domains, but they keep coming anyway. What's going on in beautiful downtown Rockville? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #22 January 20, 2003 What is the mail setup where you work? What kind of e-mail server software do you use? Exchange? Are you an admin with rights to muck with stuff, or just an over-spammed end user? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #23 January 20, 2003 Let's continue in IM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
