PhillyKev 0 #76 January 23, 2003 Quote you are all hopeless dopes and know nothing of geopolitics. i suggest you duscuss prices of carrot in the nearest Farmers Market. it might bring more good. Greetings Is that smiley face at the end of your personal attack supposed to make it ok? I'll "duscuss" anything I want. Please enlighten me on your insider knowledge of geopolitics. Or should I just watch the CNN explanation to understand your viewpoint. Because I don't agree with your biased and one sided viewpoint doesn't mean I don't understand it. I love this country and what it supposedly stands for. I don't think what we're doing now lives up to those ideals. Sorry that you have a problem with that, but let's leave the name calling out of it. Although it does really make you look intelligent. Watch, it's easy not to personally attack someone. I don't think you're an arrogant asshole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #77 January 23, 2003 You know if people did some research on France and their influence around the time our country gained independence, folks would not talk so much shit about them. They played a big role in our independence from England. We would not be here in the first place without their help. And this whole picking on France for surrenduring thing at the beggining of World War II is pretty stupid too. Germany when they attacked Europe had a superior military compared to the other countries they attacked. Nobody had a chance. It is amazing how narrow minded and disrespectful some folks are to each other in these forums sometimes. That said there are valid arguments for war and against war. Now let's vote like a democratic world and accept the decision and move on. Damn barbarians... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #78 January 23, 2003 You mean the continental Navy couldn't patrol our shores on their own? I don't agree with some of France's policies regarding us, but you really can't keep throwing the surrender thing in their faces. They got blitzkrieged...literally. Oh wait...I'm not being a true patriotic American by saying that, I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #79 January 23, 2003 >Is that smiley face at the end of your personal attack supposed to make it ok? Actually, I took it to mean that he wasn't that serious; sorta like that old Woody Allen routine. Woody Allen is arguing with someone over Kurt Vonnegut's books, and the other guy is saying that he's better read than Allen, he knows Kurt Vonnegut better etc. Allen opens a closet and out steps Kurt Vonnegut, who turns to the other guy and says "You're a fool, and know nothing of my work." Then he just steps back in the closet. At the end Allen says "Don't you wish the world worked like this?" Or maybe he was serious, in which case he will quickly discover that his superior mental skills and vast knowledge base are wasted on us and quickly leave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #80 January 23, 2003 QuoteYou know, if I had the opportunity to do some chick in the oval office, you can bet I'd do it. Bill, this statement surprises me. I really thought you had more class. To all of you on both sides of this issue, the State of the Union Address is this Tuesday, Jan. 28th. You may get some of the answers you seek. Lastly, about Clinton and the cigar thing...the issue was the fact that he lied under oath. This is called perjury according to the constitution that he swore to uphold during his inauguration. It wasn't about sex, stupid! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #81 January 23, 2003 QuoteLastly, about Clinton and the cigar thing...the issue was the fact that he lied under oath. This is called perjury according to the constitution that he swore to uphold during his inauguration. It wasn't about sex, stupid! Not to you, maybe. But it was pretty clear when it was brought up that the sex part was what made it more objectionable than war to others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #82 January 23, 2003 QuoteBill, this statement surprises me. I really thought you had more class. To all of you on both sides of this issue, the State of the Union Address is this Tuesday, Jan. 28th. You may get some of the answers you seek. Lastly, about Clinton and the cigar thing...the issue was the fact that he lied under oath. This is called perjury according to the constitution that he swore to uphold during his inauguration. It wasn't about sex, stupid! Easy tiger... Easy...... I'd have had more respect for Clinton had he simply said IT'S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.... But he lied... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #83 January 23, 2003 Rob, I just hate the arrogance of that statement; "Iraq, it's the oil, stupid" or "It's the economy, stupid". To call other people stupid because they don't agree with your opinion, I think is stupid. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #84 January 23, 2003 LOL Goofball!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #85 January 23, 2003 >Bill, this statement surprises me. I really thought you had more class. Then you overestimated me. I've had sex in more places than my bedroom. In addition, I'm so classless I don't find anything wrong with that. >Lastly, about Clinton and the cigar thing...the issue was the fact that he lied under oath. Oh, I agree. Which is why I find it funny that people keep bringing it up. It's the most popular radical right wing rant - "hey, he may be dumb, but at least he didn't do some chick in the oval office!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #86 January 23, 2003 Quote"hey, he may be dumb, but at least he didn't do some chick in the oval office!" Yet(?) And regardless, what does the ability to have sex over a desk have to do with competency in jour job (unless you're a porn star). Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #87 January 23, 2003 >And regardless, what does the ability to have sex over a desk have >to do with competency in jour job (unless you're a porn star). Absolutely nothing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #88 January 23, 2003 Quote Then you overestimated me. I've had sex in more places than my bedroom. In addition, I'm so classless I don't find anything wrong with that. I am assuming you are saying this "tongue in cheek". Come on folks...the Oval Office??? I hope we have better standards than that. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #89 January 23, 2003 I'd do it on the White House lawn if I could get away with it. Personally I don't find anything taboo about sex, so why should it matter where it's done? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #90 January 23, 2003 Quote Come on folks...the Oval Office??? Pretty exotic I think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #91 January 23, 2003 Quote Come on folks...the Oval Office??? Honestly, what president doesn't do that their first night in the White House?? When you move into a new house, you have to mark the occasion. If you are the president, go big! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #92 January 23, 2003 I certainly plan on it, and with everyone I can too . Classy is way overrated when it comes to things like this. Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #93 January 23, 2003 >Come on folks...the Oval Office??? I hope we have better standards > than that. I've done it in my office before. And if my office were the oval office, heck, why not? (after making sure we would be undisturbed of course.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #94 January 23, 2003 more news in today about France & Germany's stance on ol wyubya's threats. which by the way this thread started out about to begin with. the old idealogy that you can impose your will upon other's by threatning them is absurd. how would any one of you react if someone told you to do something you didn't agree with, and then followed up with threats upon your non compliance? c'mon folks, we went from national security and relationships with our allies to "slick willie" getting a bj under the desk of the oval office, do you really think he was the first? RIGHT... if behaviour like this would have been allowed to be reported in the 50's-60's-70's etc...we would have busted JFK et al long ago i gaurentee ya! let's not let this topic fade into obscurity, it's real, it's here...today. and it's not going to go away. i'm adamant in my stance that we should not attack Iraq without the consent of the UN and all of our allies, i know what will happen if we do, and for those of you who are "in denial" wake up. --Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #95 January 23, 2003 Sure would make White House tours more popular. Kinda like the Mile High club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #96 January 23, 2003 Well, silly me. I just thought it showed a lack of respect for the office and was kinda tacky. But I guess, if it's non-tacky I want, then what the hell am I doing here.[Muenkel getting off his high horse]Actually, I would consider doing the twins in that office.[/Muenkel getting off his high horse] _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #97 January 23, 2003 QuoteChina and Russia, as well as Canada, joined France and Germany Thursday in opposing any rush to war. They said U.N. weapons inspectors should be allowed to continue efforts to disarm Iraq by peaceful means. Washington dismissed the objections, saying it would find other supporters if it decided to go to war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #98 January 23, 2003 Georgey Dubya sounds like a bit of a brat, don't he... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #99 January 23, 2003 Quote Well, silly me. I just thought it showed a lack of respect for the office and was kinda tacky. But I guess, if it's non-tacky I want, then what the hell am I doing here.[Muenkel getting off his high horse]Actually, I would consider doing the twins in that office.[/Muenkel getting off his high horse] I used to date a girl who was a real-estate agent. If she had a new house that had been prepped, but wasn't listed yet... New condos, places at the beach with pools (one with a lap pool), new office buildings... Girls like to brag to their g/fs about this stuff. "...and then we went to the Lincoln Bedroom and..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #100 January 23, 2003 Quote France & Germany's stance on ol wyubya's threats. which by the way this thread started out about to begin with. Yeah, that was before we dragged it into the White House Quote how would any one of you react if someone told you to do something you didn't agree with, and then followed up with threats upon your non compliance? Well, I think the justification is that since we're bigger, and we're America, and we define freedom it's OK. I've had some conversations with a woman who was very happy living in Saudi Arabia. Yes, her world was a lot more limited than mine, but she was comfortable with those limits. They made sense to her. It would be difficult to explain to her that she's oppressed. On the other hand, having options is great. At least I think so. Some of this freedom is relative, and some is absolute. Yes, it is better to have options, I think. Of course, there are millions of fundamentalist Christians who reject a lot of what I consider to be reasonable options. Does that make me wrong or them wrong? If some were in charge, my options would be reduced. I spent a fair amount of my childhood and adolescence living in Brazil. Many of the people I met would move to the US for economic or educational reasons. Fewer thought our brand of freedom was better than what was available locally. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
