airtwardo 7 #51 January 23, 2003 Quote Hey I saw Lisa from Waller at the start line in the 4 miler on the 19th. I was there too! Just a cheerleader tho... I was over by the motorcycle cops with the little kids on my shoulders!!! "Mom" did the whole 26...first time- and with only two months of training!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #52 January 23, 2003 QuoteBecause we are the only nation willing to spend it's own, so that there can be a world of FREE THINKING INDIVIDUALS allowing people to make decisions on their own without governmental pressure! do some research on the middle east, then when you find out women can't drive, or work, can't speak without permission (i could go on, but it only gets worse) the internet is censored and only men can work, then you'll see how ludricrous this statement is. what you have stated will NEVER happen. you cannot force your will upon others, you can try but more often than not, it's an exercise in futility.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #53 January 23, 2003 QuoteQuoteBecause we are the only nation willing to spend it's own, so that there can be a world of FREE THINKING INDIVIDUALS allowing people to make decisions on their own without governmental pressure! do some research on the middle east, then when you find out women can't drive, or work, can't speak without permission (i could go on, but it only gets worse) the internet is censored and only men can work, then you'll see how ludricrous this statement is. what you have stated will NEVER happen. you cannot force your will upon others, you can try but more often than not, it's an exercise in futility.[/repl Yes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! Slavery was once accepted here, but once it was denounced, you have no support outside you're little piece of the world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #54 January 23, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhat about our lives. Maybe Prez knows something we don't know. We are not informed on everything. Maybe there is a threat to our country Maybe is not good enough. If he has proof, he needs to tell us (or at least other world leaders) what it is. If he doesn't have proof, he should wait until he does. If he never gets it, he should walk away. From all indications, he doesn't have proof, and doesn't care. From all indications, he'll attack no matter what the reality in Iraq really is. Iraq is a marshmellow in the area, there is no POWER in the middle east unless WE make them! Would you show everyone your hand in Poker and still bet? The PREZ (as you call him), has a much longer agenda than many of you think. The losses that we may take, if any, are well calculated. The Iraqi's will sit down in a heartbeat knowing this IS FREEDOM! They only stand by this ASSHOLE because of the consiquences of NOT doing so! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #55 January 23, 2003 QuoteYes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! again, you don't have a clue. we're not only talking politics here, but the politics of the muslim religion as well. these people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. you don't get it. if you were to go over there and even remotely say what you've said in this post to a middle eastener muslim, they would literally kill you, and dissmember your body without a second thought...trust me. that's the whole problem here, we don't understand them, and they think they understand us, but they don't. these people are very loyal to their leaders, and would not hesitate to die for them, or their faith, i know them, i work with them, and while we have our differences, the only reason they tolerate me is because they have to, if they thought for a moment i didn't work for the saudi oil company while i was a guest in their country, they would kill me as well, this is what i live with when i'm there. to think we can conquer these people, and establish a democracy is nothing more than a "pipe dream" if we attack, more buildings will fall, more innocent people/civilians will die, this is reality.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #56 January 23, 2003 Quote Quote Yes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! again, you don't have a clue. we're not only talking politics here, but the politics of the muslim religion as well. these people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. you don't get it. if you were to go over there and even remotely say what you've said in this post to a middle eastener muslim, they would literally kill you, and dissmember your body without a second thought...trust me. that's the whole problem here, we don't understand them, and they think they understand us, but they don't. these people are very loyal to their leaders, and would not hesitate to die for them, or their faith, i know them, i work with them, and while we have our differences, the only reason they tolerate me is because they have to, if they thought for a moment i didn't work for the saudi oil company while i was a guest in their country, they would kill me as well, this is what i live with when i'm there. to think we can conquer these people, and establish a democracy is nothing more than a "pipe dream" if we attack, more buildings will fall, more innocent people/civilians will die, this is reality. I happen to agree with some of the STUPID BULLSHIT HERE! As you say, without saying as much, If LIFE meant something to these ASSHOLES(like worth living) as thier neighbors may find out(with OUR help), they may decide to find out what peace is! THEY don't know PEACE! The bible say's that these 2 families can never live in peace. WE are the only country that CAN make this a reality! If they decide that with all of our help that they cannot live in peace, FUCK'EM. They all despise us as being THEIR satan, for being as free spirited and free thinking as we are and forcing OUR FREEDOM ON THEM. Fuck US for trying to help them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #57 January 23, 2003 QuoteIraq is a marshmellow in the area while this may be true, this marsmellow has C-4 explosives in place on hundreds of oil and gas wells at this very moment, this would create an environmental disaster as well as a diversionary tactic to any military onslought.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #58 January 23, 2003 QuoteFuck US for trying to help them! in their minds they don't need, or want our help, sad but true. it is what it is. i am an american through and through, but i'm a "realists" as well, and i know for a fact we cannot strike without the proper provacation, and authorization without major serious consequences, innocent people WILL DIE by the tens of thousands.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #59 January 23, 2003 Tens' not thousands! Albeit, everyone is significant, the people of THIS country have forgotten what our forfathers gave up for us to have this Great nation! A LOT OF LIVES SO THAT WE WOULD BE FREE, to speak our thoughts, vote our opinion and chose freely who runs our country! We are said to be Satan in other countries because WE have a mind and say so in what happens, and they don't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #60 January 23, 2003 QuoteA LOT OF LIVES SO THAT WE WOULD BE FREE, to speak our thoughts, vote our opinion and chose freely who runs our country! key phrase: "our country" QuoteWe are said to be Satan no, they dont think we're satan. they believe allah will not fail them, because these are the teachings of the coran. they say "anshaallah" arabic for "if god is willing." before each tasks, they pray, and ask anshaallah. remember the kamakazis? same mentality, death is equivalent to being at allah's right hand, so what have they to lose in their minds? nothing, that's what makes them dangerous. you'll notice they don't try and impose their culture on us. this is about womd suposedly, but we won't find them. ol wyubya can continue to alienate us from our european allies with threats, soon we'll be a "stand alone" unit. we can't whip the world, and war costs tons of $$$$ wyubya can't even begin to balance the budget, let alone fight two countries at once with no help.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #61 January 23, 2003 Quoteand if the US should attack Iraq, it just may hit an all-time low (and since this attack just might coincide with a referendum on whether or not we should join, I have every reason to hope that my country will not join that particular alliance. Economically, I think the EU is enough.) As Slovenia is already an EAPC member of NATO, the chances of eventually becoming a member are pretty good. While the EU may be adequate economically, strategically and defensively speaking NATO has shown itself to be a very viable organization in the world, particularly in Europe.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #62 January 23, 2003 QuoteYeah. We're all sitting here in awe right now. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #63 January 23, 2003 QuoteAFTER WE FREED THEM from thier OWN FUCKING nightmare! If it weren't for the U.S., Germany would go back where we pulled them out of socialistic bullshit against their own people that they don't like! WE DON'T NEED their help, approval or assistance in our quest to rid the world of fucking nut cases that unstablise the world for the rest of the free world! Yea, we ARE the bully on the rest of the world,WHY? Because we are the only nation willing to spend it's own, so that there can be a world of FREE THINKING INDIVIDUALS allowing people to make decisions on their own without governmental pressure! Gad Damn Conway!! Right the fuck on bro!! Semper Fi!! Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #64 January 23, 2003 Quotethese people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. And so they shall unfortunately... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #65 January 23, 2003 Quotekey phrase: "our country" They flew planes into office buildings in our country.. And the fact remains we have the big stick so whether the other countries like it or not we call the shots.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #66 January 23, 2003 QuoteAnd so they shall unfortunately... and so shall our people unfortunately. not only will it cost a lot of money, we will lose many of our countrymen. i'm not against attacking them, i'm against attacking them for the wrong reasons and without the proper support from NATO, this would be a misstake.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #67 January 23, 2003 We don't need Nato... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #68 January 23, 2003 Quote without the proper support from NATO, this would be a misstake. NATO is a defensive pact. Not an apparatus for premptive strikes. However, the support you are seeking does exist, there is a coalition of US, UK, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait, Italy, Turkey, Bahrain etc. Organizations like NATO (but more so the UN) would hinder the overall effort in Iraq should shooting start en masse again.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #69 January 23, 2003 >they may decide to find out what peace is! THEY don't know PEACE! Very true. We keep killing them. >The bible say's that these 2 families can never live in peace. WE are the >only country that CAN make this a reality! Also true. We have been basically enforcing war for years. >If they decide that with all of our help that they cannot live in peace, > FUCK'EM. They all despise us as being THEIR satan, for being as free spirited > and free thinking as we are and forcing OUR FREEDOM ON THEM. No, the reason they think we're satan is that we keep killing them. If your parents had been killed by a US bomb, whether it's dropped from a US or Israeli bomber, you would probably think poorly of the US as well. It's really pretty simple. >Fuck US for trying to help them! Ah, and I see we're about to "help" another 50,000 or so Iraqis. Is that the latest euphemism for "kill?" How about "liberate?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #70 January 23, 2003 QuoteVery true. We keep killing them. Man.. This world is soo complicated... Don't see the Quwaitees complaining about us staying there.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gemini 0 #71 January 23, 2003 QuoteNo, the reason they think we're satan is that we keep killing them. If your parents had been killed by a US bomb, whether it's dropped from a US or Israeli bomber, you would probably think poorly of the US as well. It's really pretty simple. Nope you missed on this one! We killed lots of Japanese and Germans and don't have the same problem that we have in the Middle East. Why? Because their "religious" leaders spew hatred, control the "schools" the media, and demand blind obedience. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jraf 0 #72 January 23, 2003 you are all hopeless dopes and know nothing of geopolitics. i suggest you duscuss prices of carrot in the nearest Farmers Market. it might bring more good. Greetings jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deleted 0 #73 January 23, 2003 My two cents...We live in the best damn country in the world. we have more civil liberties than most countries, we are able to buy a car, or house. We have the choice to go to college, we as women have the right to choose our own husband. I personaly would do what ever it takes to maintane our country, and to make sure that as a nation we stand. If there are threats to our nation, and its safety then we need to react on that. What I have noticed is this..Americans are selfish, arrogant, and ignorant of what goes on in the rest of this world..We need to be greatfull for what we have,ANd just because it is George, so any of you think Al Gore would have done better, do you actually think the PResident is making all of the choices on his own, without anyone elses input? THere is a congress , and a senate, they can stop him if they so choose. ANd at least George wasn't adraft dodger! HUMmm. I am done now.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deleted 0 #74 January 23, 2003 Carrots, man let me tell ya, the price has gone way up..I don't know maybe it the very cold weather killing them, now we have to pay more. An let me tell you...Red Bell peppers....*GASP* 3.00 a pound,,,no shitting.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #75 January 23, 2003 Quote My two cents...We live in the best damn country in the world. we have more civil liberties than most countries, we are able to buy a car, or house. We have the choice to go to college, we as women have the right to choose our own husband. I personaly would do what ever it takes to maintane our country, and to make sure that as a nation we stand. If there are threats to our nation, and its safety then we need to react on that. What I have noticed is this..Americans are selfish, arrogant, and ignorant of what goes on in the rest of this world..We need to be greatfull for what we have,ANd just because it is George, so any of you think Al Gore would have done better, do you actually think the PResident is making all of the choices on his own, without anyone elses input? THere is a congress , and a senate, they can stop him if they so choose. ANd at least George wasn't adraft dodger! HUMmm. I am done now.. You GO girlfriend!!>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 3 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
jumperconway 0 #54 January 23, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhat about our lives. Maybe Prez knows something we don't know. We are not informed on everything. Maybe there is a threat to our country Maybe is not good enough. If he has proof, he needs to tell us (or at least other world leaders) what it is. If he doesn't have proof, he should wait until he does. If he never gets it, he should walk away. From all indications, he doesn't have proof, and doesn't care. From all indications, he'll attack no matter what the reality in Iraq really is. Iraq is a marshmellow in the area, there is no POWER in the middle east unless WE make them! Would you show everyone your hand in Poker and still bet? The PREZ (as you call him), has a much longer agenda than many of you think. The losses that we may take, if any, are well calculated. The Iraqi's will sit down in a heartbeat knowing this IS FREEDOM! They only stand by this ASSHOLE because of the consiquences of NOT doing so! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #55 January 23, 2003 QuoteYes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! again, you don't have a clue. we're not only talking politics here, but the politics of the muslim religion as well. these people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. you don't get it. if you were to go over there and even remotely say what you've said in this post to a middle eastener muslim, they would literally kill you, and dissmember your body without a second thought...trust me. that's the whole problem here, we don't understand them, and they think they understand us, but they don't. these people are very loyal to their leaders, and would not hesitate to die for them, or their faith, i know them, i work with them, and while we have our differences, the only reason they tolerate me is because they have to, if they thought for a moment i didn't work for the saudi oil company while i was a guest in their country, they would kill me as well, this is what i live with when i'm there. to think we can conquer these people, and establish a democracy is nothing more than a "pipe dream" if we attack, more buildings will fall, more innocent people/civilians will die, this is reality.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #56 January 23, 2003 Quote Quote Yes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! again, you don't have a clue. we're not only talking politics here, but the politics of the muslim religion as well. these people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. you don't get it. if you were to go over there and even remotely say what you've said in this post to a middle eastener muslim, they would literally kill you, and dissmember your body without a second thought...trust me. that's the whole problem here, we don't understand them, and they think they understand us, but they don't. these people are very loyal to their leaders, and would not hesitate to die for them, or their faith, i know them, i work with them, and while we have our differences, the only reason they tolerate me is because they have to, if they thought for a moment i didn't work for the saudi oil company while i was a guest in their country, they would kill me as well, this is what i live with when i'm there. to think we can conquer these people, and establish a democracy is nothing more than a "pipe dream" if we attack, more buildings will fall, more innocent people/civilians will die, this is reality. I happen to agree with some of the STUPID BULLSHIT HERE! As you say, without saying as much, If LIFE meant something to these ASSHOLES(like worth living) as thier neighbors may find out(with OUR help), they may decide to find out what peace is! THEY don't know PEACE! The bible say's that these 2 families can never live in peace. WE are the only country that CAN make this a reality! If they decide that with all of our help that they cannot live in peace, FUCK'EM. They all despise us as being THEIR satan, for being as free spirited and free thinking as we are and forcing OUR FREEDOM ON THEM. Fuck US for trying to help them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #57 January 23, 2003 QuoteIraq is a marshmellow in the area while this may be true, this marsmellow has C-4 explosives in place on hundreds of oil and gas wells at this very moment, this would create an environmental disaster as well as a diversionary tactic to any military onslought.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #58 January 23, 2003 QuoteFuck US for trying to help them! in their minds they don't need, or want our help, sad but true. it is what it is. i am an american through and through, but i'm a "realists" as well, and i know for a fact we cannot strike without the proper provacation, and authorization without major serious consequences, innocent people WILL DIE by the tens of thousands.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #59 January 23, 2003 Tens' not thousands! Albeit, everyone is significant, the people of THIS country have forgotten what our forfathers gave up for us to have this Great nation! A LOT OF LIVES SO THAT WE WOULD BE FREE, to speak our thoughts, vote our opinion and chose freely who runs our country! We are said to be Satan in other countries because WE have a mind and say so in what happens, and they don't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #60 January 23, 2003 QuoteA LOT OF LIVES SO THAT WE WOULD BE FREE, to speak our thoughts, vote our opinion and chose freely who runs our country! key phrase: "our country" QuoteWe are said to be Satan no, they dont think we're satan. they believe allah will not fail them, because these are the teachings of the coran. they say "anshaallah" arabic for "if god is willing." before each tasks, they pray, and ask anshaallah. remember the kamakazis? same mentality, death is equivalent to being at allah's right hand, so what have they to lose in their minds? nothing, that's what makes them dangerous. you'll notice they don't try and impose their culture on us. this is about womd suposedly, but we won't find them. ol wyubya can continue to alienate us from our european allies with threats, soon we'll be a "stand alone" unit. we can't whip the world, and war costs tons of $$$$ wyubya can't even begin to balance the budget, let alone fight two countries at once with no help.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #61 January 23, 2003 Quoteand if the US should attack Iraq, it just may hit an all-time low (and since this attack just might coincide with a referendum on whether or not we should join, I have every reason to hope that my country will not join that particular alliance. Economically, I think the EU is enough.) As Slovenia is already an EAPC member of NATO, the chances of eventually becoming a member are pretty good. While the EU may be adequate economically, strategically and defensively speaking NATO has shown itself to be a very viable organization in the world, particularly in Europe.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #62 January 23, 2003 QuoteYeah. We're all sitting here in awe right now. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #63 January 23, 2003 QuoteAFTER WE FREED THEM from thier OWN FUCKING nightmare! If it weren't for the U.S., Germany would go back where we pulled them out of socialistic bullshit against their own people that they don't like! WE DON'T NEED their help, approval or assistance in our quest to rid the world of fucking nut cases that unstablise the world for the rest of the free world! Yea, we ARE the bully on the rest of the world,WHY? Because we are the only nation willing to spend it's own, so that there can be a world of FREE THINKING INDIVIDUALS allowing people to make decisions on their own without governmental pressure! Gad Damn Conway!! Right the fuck on bro!! Semper Fi!! Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #64 January 23, 2003 Quotethese people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. And so they shall unfortunately... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #65 January 23, 2003 Quotekey phrase: "our country" They flew planes into office buildings in our country.. And the fact remains we have the big stick so whether the other countries like it or not we call the shots.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rgoper 0 #66 January 23, 2003 QuoteAnd so they shall unfortunately... and so shall our people unfortunately. not only will it cost a lot of money, we will lose many of our countrymen. i'm not against attacking them, i'm against attacking them for the wrong reasons and without the proper support from NATO, this would be a misstake.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #67 January 23, 2003 We don't need Nato... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #68 January 23, 2003 Quote without the proper support from NATO, this would be a misstake. NATO is a defensive pact. Not an apparatus for premptive strikes. However, the support you are seeking does exist, there is a coalition of US, UK, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait, Italy, Turkey, Bahrain etc. Organizations like NATO (but more so the UN) would hinder the overall effort in Iraq should shooting start en masse again.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #69 January 23, 2003 >they may decide to find out what peace is! THEY don't know PEACE! Very true. We keep killing them. >The bible say's that these 2 families can never live in peace. WE are the >only country that CAN make this a reality! Also true. We have been basically enforcing war for years. >If they decide that with all of our help that they cannot live in peace, > FUCK'EM. They all despise us as being THEIR satan, for being as free spirited > and free thinking as we are and forcing OUR FREEDOM ON THEM. No, the reason they think we're satan is that we keep killing them. If your parents had been killed by a US bomb, whether it's dropped from a US or Israeli bomber, you would probably think poorly of the US as well. It's really pretty simple. >Fuck US for trying to help them! Ah, and I see we're about to "help" another 50,000 or so Iraqis. Is that the latest euphemism for "kill?" How about "liberate?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #70 January 23, 2003 QuoteVery true. We keep killing them. Man.. This world is soo complicated... Don't see the Quwaitees complaining about us staying there.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gemini 0 #71 January 23, 2003 QuoteNo, the reason they think we're satan is that we keep killing them. If your parents had been killed by a US bomb, whether it's dropped from a US or Israeli bomber, you would probably think poorly of the US as well. It's really pretty simple. Nope you missed on this one! We killed lots of Japanese and Germans and don't have the same problem that we have in the Middle East. Why? Because their "religious" leaders spew hatred, control the "schools" the media, and demand blind obedience. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jraf 0 #72 January 23, 2003 you are all hopeless dopes and know nothing of geopolitics. i suggest you duscuss prices of carrot in the nearest Farmers Market. it might bring more good. Greetings jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deleted 0 #73 January 23, 2003 My two cents...We live in the best damn country in the world. we have more civil liberties than most countries, we are able to buy a car, or house. We have the choice to go to college, we as women have the right to choose our own husband. I personaly would do what ever it takes to maintane our country, and to make sure that as a nation we stand. If there are threats to our nation, and its safety then we need to react on that. What I have noticed is this..Americans are selfish, arrogant, and ignorant of what goes on in the rest of this world..We need to be greatfull for what we have,ANd just because it is George, so any of you think Al Gore would have done better, do you actually think the PResident is making all of the choices on his own, without anyone elses input? THere is a congress , and a senate, they can stop him if they so choose. ANd at least George wasn't adraft dodger! HUMmm. I am done now.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deleted 0 #74 January 23, 2003 Carrots, man let me tell ya, the price has gone way up..I don't know maybe it the very cold weather killing them, now we have to pay more. An let me tell you...Red Bell peppers....*GASP* 3.00 a pound,,,no shitting.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #75 January 23, 2003 Quote My two cents...We live in the best damn country in the world. we have more civil liberties than most countries, we are able to buy a car, or house. We have the choice to go to college, we as women have the right to choose our own husband. I personaly would do what ever it takes to maintane our country, and to make sure that as a nation we stand. If there are threats to our nation, and its safety then we need to react on that. What I have noticed is this..Americans are selfish, arrogant, and ignorant of what goes on in the rest of this world..We need to be greatfull for what we have,ANd just because it is George, so any of you think Al Gore would have done better, do you actually think the PResident is making all of the choices on his own, without anyone elses input? THere is a congress , and a senate, they can stop him if they so choose. ANd at least George wasn't adraft dodger! HUMmm. I am done now.. You GO girlfriend!!>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 3 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
rgoper 0 #55 January 23, 2003 QuoteYes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! again, you don't have a clue. we're not only talking politics here, but the politics of the muslim religion as well. these people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. you don't get it. if you were to go over there and even remotely say what you've said in this post to a middle eastener muslim, they would literally kill you, and dissmember your body without a second thought...trust me. that's the whole problem here, we don't understand them, and they think they understand us, but they don't. these people are very loyal to their leaders, and would not hesitate to die for them, or their faith, i know them, i work with them, and while we have our differences, the only reason they tolerate me is because they have to, if they thought for a moment i didn't work for the saudi oil company while i was a guest in their country, they would kill me as well, this is what i live with when i'm there. to think we can conquer these people, and establish a democracy is nothing more than a "pipe dream" if we attack, more buildings will fall, more innocent people/civilians will die, this is reality.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #56 January 23, 2003 Quote Quote Yes the middle fuckin' east is a piece of shit as far as equal rights, men vs. women, but if we let that stand, there is no help and the tyranny remains in place! The more freedom that we help to create in that region, the more freedom will happen as a byproduct! again, you don't have a clue. we're not only talking politics here, but the politics of the muslim religion as well. these people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. you don't get it. if you were to go over there and even remotely say what you've said in this post to a middle eastener muslim, they would literally kill you, and dissmember your body without a second thought...trust me. that's the whole problem here, we don't understand them, and they think they understand us, but they don't. these people are very loyal to their leaders, and would not hesitate to die for them, or their faith, i know them, i work with them, and while we have our differences, the only reason they tolerate me is because they have to, if they thought for a moment i didn't work for the saudi oil company while i was a guest in their country, they would kill me as well, this is what i live with when i'm there. to think we can conquer these people, and establish a democracy is nothing more than a "pipe dream" if we attack, more buildings will fall, more innocent people/civilians will die, this is reality. I happen to agree with some of the STUPID BULLSHIT HERE! As you say, without saying as much, If LIFE meant something to these ASSHOLES(like worth living) as thier neighbors may find out(with OUR help), they may decide to find out what peace is! THEY don't know PEACE! The bible say's that these 2 families can never live in peace. WE are the only country that CAN make this a reality! If they decide that with all of our help that they cannot live in peace, FUCK'EM. They all despise us as being THEIR satan, for being as free spirited and free thinking as we are and forcing OUR FREEDOM ON THEM. Fuck US for trying to help them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #57 January 23, 2003 QuoteIraq is a marshmellow in the area while this may be true, this marsmellow has C-4 explosives in place on hundreds of oil and gas wells at this very moment, this would create an environmental disaster as well as a diversionary tactic to any military onslought.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #58 January 23, 2003 QuoteFuck US for trying to help them! in their minds they don't need, or want our help, sad but true. it is what it is. i am an american through and through, but i'm a "realists" as well, and i know for a fact we cannot strike without the proper provacation, and authorization without major serious consequences, innocent people WILL DIE by the tens of thousands.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #59 January 23, 2003 Tens' not thousands! Albeit, everyone is significant, the people of THIS country have forgotten what our forfathers gave up for us to have this Great nation! A LOT OF LIVES SO THAT WE WOULD BE FREE, to speak our thoughts, vote our opinion and chose freely who runs our country! We are said to be Satan in other countries because WE have a mind and say so in what happens, and they don't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #60 January 23, 2003 QuoteA LOT OF LIVES SO THAT WE WOULD BE FREE, to speak our thoughts, vote our opinion and chose freely who runs our country! key phrase: "our country" QuoteWe are said to be Satan no, they dont think we're satan. they believe allah will not fail them, because these are the teachings of the coran. they say "anshaallah" arabic for "if god is willing." before each tasks, they pray, and ask anshaallah. remember the kamakazis? same mentality, death is equivalent to being at allah's right hand, so what have they to lose in their minds? nothing, that's what makes them dangerous. you'll notice they don't try and impose their culture on us. this is about womd suposedly, but we won't find them. ol wyubya can continue to alienate us from our european allies with threats, soon we'll be a "stand alone" unit. we can't whip the world, and war costs tons of $$$$ wyubya can't even begin to balance the budget, let alone fight two countries at once with no help.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #61 January 23, 2003 Quoteand if the US should attack Iraq, it just may hit an all-time low (and since this attack just might coincide with a referendum on whether or not we should join, I have every reason to hope that my country will not join that particular alliance. Economically, I think the EU is enough.) As Slovenia is already an EAPC member of NATO, the chances of eventually becoming a member are pretty good. While the EU may be adequate economically, strategically and defensively speaking NATO has shown itself to be a very viable organization in the world, particularly in Europe.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #62 January 23, 2003 QuoteYeah. We're all sitting here in awe right now. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #63 January 23, 2003 QuoteAFTER WE FREED THEM from thier OWN FUCKING nightmare! If it weren't for the U.S., Germany would go back where we pulled them out of socialistic bullshit against their own people that they don't like! WE DON'T NEED their help, approval or assistance in our quest to rid the world of fucking nut cases that unstablise the world for the rest of the free world! Yea, we ARE the bully on the rest of the world,WHY? Because we are the only nation willing to spend it's own, so that there can be a world of FREE THINKING INDIVIDUALS allowing people to make decisions on their own without governmental pressure! Gad Damn Conway!! Right the fuck on bro!! Semper Fi!! Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #64 January 23, 2003 Quotethese people will die before they would ever let another entity come in and dictate to them how they should/should not live. And so they shall unfortunately... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #65 January 23, 2003 Quotekey phrase: "our country" They flew planes into office buildings in our country.. And the fact remains we have the big stick so whether the other countries like it or not we call the shots.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #66 January 23, 2003 QuoteAnd so they shall unfortunately... and so shall our people unfortunately. not only will it cost a lot of money, we will lose many of our countrymen. i'm not against attacking them, i'm against attacking them for the wrong reasons and without the proper support from NATO, this would be a misstake.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #67 January 23, 2003 We don't need Nato... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #68 January 23, 2003 Quote without the proper support from NATO, this would be a misstake. NATO is a defensive pact. Not an apparatus for premptive strikes. However, the support you are seeking does exist, there is a coalition of US, UK, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait, Italy, Turkey, Bahrain etc. Organizations like NATO (but more so the UN) would hinder the overall effort in Iraq should shooting start en masse again.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #69 January 23, 2003 >they may decide to find out what peace is! THEY don't know PEACE! Very true. We keep killing them. >The bible say's that these 2 families can never live in peace. WE are the >only country that CAN make this a reality! Also true. We have been basically enforcing war for years. >If they decide that with all of our help that they cannot live in peace, > FUCK'EM. They all despise us as being THEIR satan, for being as free spirited > and free thinking as we are and forcing OUR FREEDOM ON THEM. No, the reason they think we're satan is that we keep killing them. If your parents had been killed by a US bomb, whether it's dropped from a US or Israeli bomber, you would probably think poorly of the US as well. It's really pretty simple. >Fuck US for trying to help them! Ah, and I see we're about to "help" another 50,000 or so Iraqis. Is that the latest euphemism for "kill?" How about "liberate?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #70 January 23, 2003 QuoteVery true. We keep killing them. Man.. This world is soo complicated... Don't see the Quwaitees complaining about us staying there.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #71 January 23, 2003 QuoteNo, the reason they think we're satan is that we keep killing them. If your parents had been killed by a US bomb, whether it's dropped from a US or Israeli bomber, you would probably think poorly of the US as well. It's really pretty simple. Nope you missed on this one! We killed lots of Japanese and Germans and don't have the same problem that we have in the Middle East. Why? Because their "religious" leaders spew hatred, control the "schools" the media, and demand blind obedience. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #72 January 23, 2003 you are all hopeless dopes and know nothing of geopolitics. i suggest you duscuss prices of carrot in the nearest Farmers Market. it might bring more good. Greetings jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted 0 #73 January 23, 2003 My two cents...We live in the best damn country in the world. we have more civil liberties than most countries, we are able to buy a car, or house. We have the choice to go to college, we as women have the right to choose our own husband. I personaly would do what ever it takes to maintane our country, and to make sure that as a nation we stand. If there are threats to our nation, and its safety then we need to react on that. What I have noticed is this..Americans are selfish, arrogant, and ignorant of what goes on in the rest of this world..We need to be greatfull for what we have,ANd just because it is George, so any of you think Al Gore would have done better, do you actually think the PResident is making all of the choices on his own, without anyone elses input? THere is a congress , and a senate, they can stop him if they so choose. ANd at least George wasn't adraft dodger! HUMmm. I am done now.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deleted 0 #74 January 23, 2003 Carrots, man let me tell ya, the price has gone way up..I don't know maybe it the very cold weather killing them, now we have to pay more. An let me tell you...Red Bell peppers....*GASP* 3.00 a pound,,,no shitting.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #75 January 23, 2003 Quote My two cents...We live in the best damn country in the world. we have more civil liberties than most countries, we are able to buy a car, or house. We have the choice to go to college, we as women have the right to choose our own husband. I personaly would do what ever it takes to maintane our country, and to make sure that as a nation we stand. If there are threats to our nation, and its safety then we need to react on that. What I have noticed is this..Americans are selfish, arrogant, and ignorant of what goes on in the rest of this world..We need to be greatfull for what we have,ANd just because it is George, so any of you think Al Gore would have done better, do you actually think the PResident is making all of the choices on his own, without anyone elses input? THere is a congress , and a senate, they can stop him if they so choose. ANd at least George wasn't adraft dodger! HUMmm. I am done now.. You GO girlfriend!!>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
