suz 0 #26 January 23, 2003 Quote I just can't see paying $13-$19 for a CD just so i can get the 1 song i want. I have alot of "suz" albums becoz of that very reason!! $19 is pretty bad!!! (works out to be about $40 Aus) I pay that for a double cd!!! NOW I FEEL EVEN WORSE!!! Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #27 January 24, 2003 QuoteI just can't see paying $13-$19 for a CD just so i can get the 1 song i want. Cheryl, have ya ever heard of a thing called a CD single? try it some time..ya dont have to break the law and ya dont have to pay all the money for just a few songs you like... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #28 January 24, 2003 hey, time to lighten up. stop putting people on the defensive. you have made it clear that you feel some of us are thieves. that is your right. so if you are going to call the RIAA, do it, but shit man, give it a break here. a simple question was asked. there is and alway will be alternative channels of distribution of information. Why and how you use them are entirely up to you. as ol ivan says - 'may the force be with you'namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #29 January 24, 2003 I'll feel bad about stealing when the artists arent overpaid millionaires. I dont pay for music because I dont think they deserve those houses and cars and the only reason they have them is we gave them the money. Having that much money is just ridiculous. Once you are that rich give the music away for free. I'd like to see someone try to take me in for "piracy" Support who you want to, steal the rest. Sorry for continuing the off topic forum but stupidly rich people suck. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #30 January 24, 2003 If you like non-mainstream music I can recommend mp3.com Free streams, free downloads. That's where I find most of my favorite techno and trance. There's a pretty good selection of other genres and lots of indy type artists that you've probably never heard of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #31 January 24, 2003 and on a lighter note, you may be interested to know that underneath the headlines generated by megacorp distibution conglomerates caught in self imposed death throes are artists who embrace file sharing as a viable distribution channel. it seems that there are people who actually trust others to buy what they use and ignore that which they don't. And there are actually people who pay. You sound like one of those kinds of people. As am I. I will not tell you how much digital music I have, but I will tell you that my MP3s did not come from my CD collection. Other way around. I find obscure artists that i have never heard and would never plop 20 bones down to check out and if they deserve my money - i give it to em. usually the only vehicle for that is to buy hardbits, CD's and DVD. ugh. someday. and what about people who have no money? the people who are not a possible market for something as frivolous yet vital to emotional well being. if you have a choice between paying for your internet access this month or buying 2 or 3 CDs, you are going to pay your ISP. so that money is not available for the megacorps to scrape out of your pocket anyway, so they are not losing a cent when you download the music that you are not able to buy. percieved loss is an interesting animal. hmmm, perhaps that person who has no money but downloads joeblows latest finds out that they really like it. this is a fan. spread word, eventually buy merchandise, future releases. blah blah blah. it is a slippery slope, but it is not as one sided and dismal as the RIAA and the big 5 will have you think. and that's just it, stop having them think for you. look at it from other angles. you might see a little light somewhere and just fuckin relax! namaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suz 0 #32 January 24, 2003 Ahhh...I see your point there. There are some muso's out there that deserve their billions....look at Jewel...she was living in her car, writing songs before she was heard by the world! Please dont yell at me...I am just thinking out loud.... Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #33 January 24, 2003 I agree some bands do support it...my favorite band being one of them. WILCO released there newest album for free on the internet to down load. I like to go to MP3.com...I have over 10gig of downloaded music from there....all for free and all at the willing discretion of the bands on there...I also have bought many of the band's CD's that I liked from there...I also have alot of techno/trance/deep house from there..I down load..I just dont steal... I dont care if you down load music...but downloading COPYRIGHTED material is wrong. is it is not about people making WAY too much money. and the people that make that much are not the people I care about....I could care less if you steal from britney or Christina....there are alot of artists out there that don't make millions...and everytime someone "swaps" there music instead of buying it is taking money out of there pocket.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #34 January 24, 2003 Quoteand what about people who have no money? the people who are not a possible market for something as frivolous yet vital to emotional well being. if you have a choice between paying for your internet access this month or buying 2 or 3 CDs, you are going to pay your ISP. That's crap mate...if ya got money for a computer and an ISP ya got "disposable income"...the internet is a luxury not necesarily a necesity..unless it's for work..and then ya would tend to expect there work to reimburse that.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #35 January 24, 2003 One alternative to everything I've heard mentioned is what I've been doing for the last few years. I refuse to purchase new music - I am boycotting the RIAA. Not because I disagree with their stance on stopping music thieves. I just feel they go WAY too far - like trying to end Internet Radio - there's no reason for that. Normal radio stations don't pay the duties that they are ordering IR to pay. The RIAA just sees it as a new technology and think they can capitalize on something they missed out on with normal radio. Read all the reports on RIAA and how they threaten and intimidate organizations into giving them money, and you might agree with me. What I do is this: I download the music in MP3 format, and if I like the music, I want the CD, which has a much better sound quality. Then I find the CD *used* on eBay - normally for about $5-10 US - quarter to half the cost of a new one. Shipping is typically $1.50 - the same as tax on a new $16 CD. CDs have a shelf life of over 100 years and as long as they're not scratched, they always sound as good as new. In this way, you give no money to the RIAA, you recycle music that someone no longer wants and you pay a reasonable price without sacrificing quality.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #36 January 24, 2003 Quote Whatever you do, don't do it on Verizon's network. Click me In a related story, a federal judge announced today that at the request of recording industry lobbyists, indictments were being prepared against several individuals who may have allegedly dubbed their cassette tapes into a "compilation" and distributed it illegally to friends and family members during the period of 1980-1985. Specifically targeted were those individuals possessing copies of Van Halen's "1984", and so-called "love tapes", containing mostly ballads recorded directly from radio broadcasts and commonly traded among junior-high couples. An RIAA spokesman commented on the charges earlier today, saying only that "....the road to hell is paved with 90-minute comp tapes....", and "....that money belongs rightfully to Bon Jovi." Federal prosecutors connected to the case had no comment. *Note that the above was made in jest* It is not real. No need to go home and throw out all those old tapes of Prince that your junior high sweetheart made for you Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #37 January 24, 2003 QuoteIn a related story, a federal judge announced today that at the request of recording industry lobbyists, indictments were being prepared against several individuals who may have allegedly dubbed their cassette tapes into a "compilation" and distributed it illegally to friends and family members during the period of 1980-1985. Guess what I'm doing when I get home? If you guessed destroying those cassettes that have been sitting in a box in my closet since about 1988, you're on the right track. Wasn't this issue litigated back in the late 70's - early 80's? And wasn't it decided that making compilation tapes of songs off albums and singles that we paid for was okay?? That's it. If I didn't have a good reason to "steal" music already, I do now. FUCK THE RIAA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpullin1 0 #38 January 24, 2003 Kazzaa or Kazzaa lite "It's hard to fly with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys." My Website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #39 January 24, 2003 sorry Bytch - this was a joke - I should have made that more clear. The part about the junior high kids - Bin Jovi - hahaha. sorry. also, the courts ruled that it's OK to make a tape of a song for a friend, but not copy multiple tapes for people you don't know.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #40 January 24, 2003 Quote sorry Bytch - this was a joke Doh! Hey can someone help me remove this hook from my mouth... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #41 January 24, 2003 Quote bump. Cornholio - how do you do that??? Thanks! Doh, sorry. I was not following this thread. /hint hint Maybe a little hash mark next to the subject would allow me to see what threads I participated in / hint hint So FTP and mIRC are not new. Actually mIRC or IRC and FTP have been around since the beginning of the Internet - or close to that point in time. The logistics of getting MP3's this way is hard if you are not too techy, but I will try to explain it to you.... First get a copy of mIRC from www.mirc.com. The tricky part is getting you connected to a server that has FTP site lists. There are one or two out there that I could point you to. Next you need to download your favorite FTP client. Put the information that you received from IRC ( the username, password, and path ) into the FTP client and connect to the server. From there, it's just looking on the site for MP3 files and start downloading to your hearts content, or until the site shuts down or your hard drive fills up. Simple, eh ? It is a bit tricky and it's borderline legal, so you have to ask people who know. This is not the forum for those matters. In terms of the RIAA.... FUK THE RIAA!!! And FUK Lars from Metallica too... if it wasn't for his big mouth, we probably would not be in the mess we are in today with the Napster clones and RIAA, and MPAA and etc... Y'know, the really stupid thing is that Metallica used to promote song swapping and the bootleg/black market. But now that they are so rich and famous, they put their foot down on the file trading. WTF ??? So, the napster clones and gnutella might be a dying breed, but FTP will be around for much longer and it's more reliable. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
