Are you Conservative, Liberal, Texan?????

[Muenkel 0]

This scenario definitely demonstrates how differently we all look at situations.

One side sees it that the family has a right to defend themselves against a "dangerous looking man with a huge knife" who is "running at you while screaming obsenities."

The other side sees it that the family has used poor judgement in walking in that part of town.

One is an alleged perpetrator. The other is an alleged victim. Which one is which?

Some would question what is wrong when a family is not free to walk any area anytime without fearing for their life. But one would say that there is something wrong when a person is not free to look dangerous, scream obsenities and weild a knife.

Quite the conundrum.

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[Zenister 0]

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How come that Texan only got 9 shots out of that Glock - must not have had a full clip.

indeed. if he fires more than one shot he can be charged for using excessive force...unless he empties the clip in which case he can claim panic..anything half way is a deliberate act...

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i just love our legal system..

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[PhillyKev 0]

But after you empty the clip, if they're still coming after you, do you throw the gun at them and run away like they do in the movies?

[Zenister 0]

nah you club yourself with it for being an idiot and not learning to shoot first!!

heh: reminds me of the old superman joke.. why does superman take 6 shots to thc chest without flinching and then duck when the perp throw his pistol at him??

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[diverdriver 7]

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nah you club yourself with it for being an idiot and not learning to shoot first!!

heh: reminds me of the old superman joke.. why does superman take 6 shots to thc chest without flinching and then duck when the perp throw his pistol at him??

I know! I know!

Because it's in the script!

[PhillyKev 0]

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nah you club yourself with it for being an idiot and not learning to shoot first!!

heh: reminds me of the old superman joke.. why does superman take 6 shots to thc chest without flinching and then duck when the perp throw his pistol at him??

I know! I know!

Because it's in the script!

No way...that's totally ad libbed.

[trilete312 0]

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indeed. if he fires more than one shot he can be charged for using excessive force...unless he empties the clip in which case he can claim panic..anything half way is a deliberate act...

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To further add to the debate, if you kill him you may have some emotional trauma but you are safe.

If you just injure him and he was a dangerous criminal, he will get sentenced to some time in jail spend about 10% of that time actually in the pen, While in jail he will lift weights and get bigger and meaner, he will watch his free cable TV and surf his free internet to find some sheister lawyer and sue you for the physical pain of the gunshot wound and the emotional trauma of his time in jail and you will lose your house and job.

So just like your skydiving, practice your emergency procedures so that when you use the gun the criminal does not get up off the ground.

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[Opie 0]

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If you expect non-sarcastic answers, ask a real question.

Sarcastic answers are both expected and encouraged

Not a Texan eh?

[IronMike 0]

I am a Texan. I would shoot a burglar dead (3-4 clips to make sure) if he was breaking into my house. Then I would piss on his grave, take a photo, and send it to his family.
I have never, and will never, shoot an animal. I believe in justice. If some quail was stealing from me I'll shoot it. Until then all fowl are safe. Burglars, expect my 9mm hollow point rounds out of my Glock to enter your chest cavity and head in rapid succession.

Mike

[SpeedRacer 1]

Well I'm not a conservative, liberal, or Texan...I'm a surrealist. So I would hide behind a grotesque, distorted humonculous held up by wooden crutches and let the flaming giraffes get him.

Speed Racer
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[airtwardo 7]

Man, you guys got some weird bullets down der in Texas.

[rgoper 0]

although i carry, and i am a CCL liscensed hangun carrier in the state of taexas, i'm also a yellow belt in tiquando, i have been training under the supervision of Master Tim Kha Lai since 1998. this situation could and should be handled in a non-violent manner. this perp could be handled without a handgun being on the person of the defender, although if it were to be employed, it would be legitimate. i would bide my time, and make my plans instantaniously and act upon them. only upon reasonable threat, or harm to others, would i draw my handgun, but i would if i had to, remember, handguns are a double edged sword, you pull it, and level it at your target, you'd better damn well be ready to drop the hammer. i have been in such situations before, good sense out weighed the use if deadly force. i've carried a weapon since 1978, and have had to pull it, and level it at on such perpertrator.

--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[phatcat 0]

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i've carried a weapon since 1978, and have had to pull it, and level it at on such perpertrator.

That was YOU??? Shit, I was just gonna ask for directions to Taco Bell. Ya didn't have to be so touchy!!

[Zenister 0]

despite martial arts movies and some 'black belts' opinions otherwise..there is no defense against a firearm, only a faster more effective offensive action. ie another firearm..my akidio sensei was also a cop when i was stationed in FL..so he brought in some of the pink training rounds they use for swat training and we 'played' with them.

guess what? unless you were already extremely close (slightly under arms length was often even to far as its easier to step back and shoot than faster than any other action) the martial artist died nearly everytime on the first shot! even when he didnt they often took the second round.. granted the shooters were also trained martial artists and knew what to expect, however it was a very enlightening (and painful those pink paint rounds hurt!) experience..

i dont like firearms, but have learned to be very good with them as a nessesity of life..i dont like any weapon that allows someone to kill in relative safety and has no real defence..give me a sword any day..however, that isnt the way the world spins...so of course i have my CCP for AZ..do i take it everywhere? of course not. but as with most things in life its better to have it and not need it than need it and wish you had one...

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[WFFC 1]

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One shot. One kill.

Colorado has the 'Make My Day' law. An officer once told to that if I was to ever exercise that right, make sure to shoot them in the front, then drag them back into the house.

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[AggieDave 6]

Atleast in Texas we can shoot perps anywhere on our property...

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[billo 0]

yes janurary has been a long, difficult, mind-wretching month...

i like the texan idea, but as you know i live too far north to carry a concealed weapon for no good reason!
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[seedy 0]

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You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two
small children.

Odd that everyone who condemned the family for walking in a dangerous section of town misread the scenario. It did not say anywhere that it was a dangerous section of town, only that the street was deserted.

I have been in many cities and towns where nice neighborhoods can have deserted streets - doen't mean they are dangerous.

I intend to live forever -- so far, so good.

[skydiverbrian 0]

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I have been in many cities and towns where nice neighborhoods can have deserted streets - doen't mean they are dangerous.

Often the nicest neighborhoods are the ones with the deserted streets. What does it say about a neighborhood when its residents have nothing to do but stand around on the streets all day? It says to me: prostitution, drugs, or soon-to-be-not-so-innocent-loitering.

In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal