freeflyz 0 #1 February 6, 2003 I don't care about the war that is about to happen! There is nothing We can do but hope that it does not happen and if it does hope our Troops come back! We as people of the USA can't do shit about it,picket anyone you want it's still going to happen if you like it or not!I'm just tired of hearing about it! Worry about stuff you can change your bills,water consuption,recycle! Just a thought to make it easy on people that worry to much! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 February 6, 2003 That falls in line with the body of the Serenity Prayer: ...To accept the things I cannot change The courage to change the things I can And the wisdom to know the difference.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 February 6, 2003 >We as people of the USA can't do shit about it . . . Actually, we're one of the few countries of the world where people CAN do something about it. We've stopped wars before; look at what public opinion did to get us out of Vietnam. And, of course, we have the power of the vote. Don't like what a leader is doing? Get another one. But you can't do that effectively without knowing what's going on, and knowing enough to form an opinion. Thus people talk about it, which I think is a good thing. >Worry about stuff you can change your bills,water consuption,recycle! And those things (especially reducing oil consumption) just might have that effect we're hoping for. We're not powerless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #4 February 6, 2003 If i remember Vietnam was not stopped we still lost thousands of troops,And yes we can vote but only 4rs later after the damage is all ready done! People of today worry to much for nothing.The point i'm trying to proof is the goverment is going to do whatever they want! Like allways! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #5 February 6, 2003 "But you can't do that effectively without knowing what's going on, and knowing enough to form an opinion. Thus people talk about it, which I think is a good thing." I knew there was a good reason to read Billvon's posts...And what better place to discuss global issues, than on a global forum? Who better to discuss them with? A global group of people, from all walks of life, and circumstances, brought together with at least one thing in common. Don't be duped into thinking this threat of war only effects the USA, the action we are currently considering has global consequences. And yes, every single person in the 'free world' has the power, the right, and sometimes even the responsibility, to do something. Whether it is to voice support, or appeal against a decision they disaree with, the right to this freedom was hard won by our forefathers. Otherwise, can you you really call yourself free? Roll music and Braveheart quotes.... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 February 6, 2003 No. That's just not correct. If the White House today received 100 million emails from people stating that they were not in favor of a war, then you'd see a dramatic change. As much as the White House likes to say that it doesn't poll or listen to polls -- they do. It is apathy that allows the few to control the masses.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #7 February 6, 2003 We are a war monger nation,just get used to it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 February 6, 2003 So, who did you vote for in the last Presidential election?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 February 6, 2003 QuoteIt is apathy that allows the few to control the masses. Apathy may be a problem or not. I just don't seem to care. Instead of the two-party system, why not just one big wild party every 4 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #10 February 6, 2003 Nope just don't care enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #11 February 6, 2003 If you don't care about politics, why are you posting about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #12 February 6, 2003 Read the title Who cares? I just see other people bitchin and crying how f#$ked up the system is,All i'm saying is who cares worry about stuff you can control! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdDuck 0 #13 February 6, 2003 First of all I think you are completely wrong when you say that the American people can't do anything about this pending war. Sure it is easier to say you don't care about the war. But if you feel that those who are in power are just a bunch of war mongers, don't you think that they would rather that you don't care? Those in powerful positions only have power because we give it to them, and we can take it away. "Insurance should called In case shit happens, if shit don't happen shouldn't I get my money back?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #14 February 6, 2003 >Read the title Who cares? Looks like you got some answers to your question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #15 February 6, 2003 THAT WOULD BE THE DAY! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #16 February 7, 2003 Okay, I'm going to try a different tact.... Do you care about your jumping? Will you be put out if the FAA were to ground the jumpships at your DZ due to possible terrorist action? Do you want to live in a permanent state of terror,and have you any idea what that actually entails? Do you want air travel to consist of long waits at security checkins? How about a curfew in your own home town? Maybe you'd like to see the price of gasoline double, or treble? Are you bothered that some of the people who you talk to, laugh with, or even jump with, from this board, or your home DZ are being sent overseas to fight, kill, maim, or suffer horrible injuries themselves for a cause that you don't care about? Do you want your basic human rights as a citizen of a free democratic country removed permanently? Do you want to do anything about it?-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #17 February 7, 2003 Quote >We as people of the USA can't do shit about it . . . Actually, we're one of the few countries of the world where people CAN do something about it. We've stopped wars before; look at what public opinion did to get us out of Vietnam. And, of course, we have the power of the vote. Don't like what a leader is doing? Get another one. If the people of USA cant stop wars who can then? I does belive that it soon will be time to a war,it wont be fair,but afther the least realeases from Hans Blix it starts to be fair to disarm Irak,but only becours the inspectors have got their time.. Why do i care?If Irak have thouse weapons,then they can hurt me. So whats next?North Korea..Why dont start rigth away?sorry there i dont understand US.Why wait until they have the nuke?they have told us that they make them..They are a biggere treadt to people at the time.. Im also sorry to see that soon the focus goes elsewere then Isreal can do what they want(i do belive US are on the wrong side in that war,or better,why are they there? Thanks i feel better now Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #18 February 7, 2003 "Thanks i feel better now" Well Stefan, at least you CARE enough to try and voice your opinions, in a language that is obviously not your native tongue.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #19 February 7, 2003 They did ground them(9/11),the lines are long in the airports and as for the people that are going there they chose that job,That what they wanted to do,and all i can do is pray they come back safe. It's in Gods hands now! We just need to get used to it! The U.S. is ran by the goverment not by the people! An also ran by the almighty DOLLAR! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #20 February 7, 2003 Quote or treble? How much would this be? It sounds scary.I thought treble was something on my stereo. You people on the other side of the pond...boy, how you destroy the English language.Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
