Rebecca 0 #26 February 18, 2003 In response to you and flyingferret, The situations are not real, but the people are. That's kinda the point- they took these girls, showed them the "Fairy Tale" they'd been brought up dreaming about and then let them fight for it. If the show was really based on reality, no one would get their panties in a wad over it... Yes Ferret, it's often staged and it does bring out the worst in people- or rather, the base in people. The nice girls were still nice, while the bitches looked it. And yes, they're all still trying to pose for the camera... The two things I mentioned were real reactions I think, BECAUSE they were trying to keep it together for the video, and failing... That said, I will not watch any more of these shows because they are worthless, mind-numbing drivel. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #27 February 18, 2003 I guess I see your point to a degree. They are real technically. But everything is real technical. The question is if it is your perception of real or society's agreement of real? Just because it is real does not discribe the purpose and attitude with which it was created. Throughout life you try to equalize your view of reality and society's view through experiences, rites of passage. All things like this do, is alter the view that you try to align. We think they are base or whatever. I hear so many people talk about how they think negatively of them. Yet the patronizie them by watching. There is no such thing as bad publicity. We as Americans are drawn to things we don't like but are not smart enough to leave alone. There is no such thing as bad publicity. This for for reality TV and Michael Jackson.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #28 February 18, 2003 I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit this... You know I don't watch TV, right? Not gonna pay for cable and can't get anything with rabbit ears in the hole I live in. There are several advantages to not watching TV. Primary is, of course, that wonderfully irrational feeling of superiority over those who spend hours and hours in front of the boob tube (like spending hours and hours in front of the 'puter is all that much better). Among the big disadvantages is this feeling of being completely disconnected from what seems to be the life flow of our country. I'm out of the loop; I can't talk about such important, life changing topics as what that bitch did to that guy on Survivor or did Sarah really pose for bondage pictures - not only do I not know or particularly care who these people are, I also don't know or particularly care which of them did what to who and why. Since I don't watch TV, of course I hadn't seen the current hot "reality" show Joe Millionaire. Was kind of smug about that fact too. Until last night. Called a friend to chat and she said that the finale was coming on in 10 minutes, c'mon over. I tried to resist, but I wanted to visit her anyway.. so into the car I got. Fought the evening traffic to get across town and arrived only 10 minutes into the show. Sigh. I got sucked in. Me. Ms. I Don't Watch TV And That Makes Me Special. I found myself actually giving a shit about which girl he would choose ("Oh I hope he doesn't pick Sarah, she's so fake!") and truly caring about what the secret, surprise twist would be ("I bet they give them money"). I sat there and watched, entranced, for almost TWO HOURS. Yes, I watched the whole damn thing. And I enjoyed the experience. While I am thoroughly embarrassed having to admit this, I thought it was a pretty good show. In my own defense, at least I didn't cry at the end when they were dancing and kissing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #29 February 18, 2003 I know! It's like a car accident on the highway! You don't want to look but you can't help it. And then you can't look away. You have to watch! And I wasn't crying at the end. I had something in my eye. I think an eyelash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #30 February 18, 2003 Uh huh....sure....She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #31 February 18, 2003 Quote That's kinda the point- they took these girls, showed them the "Fairy Tale" they'd been brought up dreaming about and then let them fight for it. What? You believe that they are only dating him because of the "Cinderella" fairytale lifestyle it offers. That would make them sound incredibly superficial. If women dated men just for their money, then middle-aged guys would be buying red Porsches all the time. Of course, if I buy into the "just for the money" theory, that would mean that the women are lying about having feelings about him. It would make it hard for me to feel sorry for them if they get their feelings hurt because the show's producers lied to them. However, if they really want to fight for his money, I favor jello wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #32 February 18, 2003 Lisa, one solution www.fark.com Anything weird that comes up on the news or talked about during rush hour radio usually comes from fark.com. Now you can be accepted the water cooler again. Plus if you watch history/discovery/tlc or read their websites you can start much much cooler conversations. I have learned more watching those channels than most of college combined. Diverdriver: I hate that instinct too. Not saying hate those that do it. But it cheapens human life and it makes traffic HELL. And I agree this is much like that. We don't like it, but we patronize it anyway, dragging others down. There are many parallels there.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #33 February 18, 2003 Quote What? You believe that they are only dating him because of the "Cinderella" fairytale lifestyle it offers. That would make them sound incredibly superficial. If women dated men just for their money, then middle-aged guys would be buying red Porsches all the time. Of course, if I buy into the "just for the money" theory, that would mean that the women are lying about having feelings about him. It would make it hard for me to feel sorry for them if they get their feelings hurt because the show's producers lied to them. However, if they really want to fight for his money, I favor jello wrestling. Oh, I don't feel sorry for any of them- not for a minute. I think most of them were in it JUST for the money, fame, castle, blah blah blah. Then they tried their damndest to have feelings for him and look past the fact that he's abysmally stupid and uninteresting. Then, when they couldn't do that, they didn't feel too bad about being dumped. Anyone who says they have "real, deep, honest feelings" for someone after one date (esp. a filthy rich someone) is trying to fool themselves. I think it would've been funny to make it on the show, NOT get a necklace, and go, "Whew! Thank God! I couldn't take one more minute being bored out of my skull with that troglodite! You girls can keep him!" you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freebird 0 #34 February 18, 2003 Noticed he picked the brown head Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #35 February 18, 2003 Quote Then they tried their damndest to have feelings for him and look past the fact that he's abysmally stupid and uninteresting. Most women have dated a "project guy". The one who is good looking and nice, but you can't quite take to meet your friends yet? You coach him on manners and how to dress, and in 2 months he's kinda presentable. Hope springs eternal. They could always chip off the rough edges later. A while back, I worked for a corp where the president was 51. His wife was 28 and unbelievably hot. I stood next to her in the buffet line one time for 5 minutes. She bitched about Everything for the entire time. Glad to get out of that line. I can't believe that he chose to live his life that way. I wanted to drown her and I'd just met her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #36 February 18, 2003 Quote Noticed he picked the brown head I have college classes two nights a week. I actually haven't seen the show, so I haven't seen who he picked. However, you know you're my honey anyway. I wouldn't even have noticed there was a woman on that show. (editted for spelling) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
